RE: Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

RE: Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[ishamid]

Hi
>===== Original Message From mailing list for ConTeXt users 
<ntg-context@ntg.nl>
>Then I tried the steps Idris recommend once:
>
>> eomega --ini *plain \dump
>> eomega --ini *cont-en
>> texexec --make en -tex=eomega
>>
>> are the relevant commands. eomega _is_ aleph.

I'm sure of course that you replaced `eomega' with `aleph';-)

There should be no need to add aleph.exe to your path if you just refresh the 
fndb, which I'm sure u did also;-)) (I don't know about MacOSX but TeXLive 
contains a shortcut to that command in Programs=>TeXLive=>Maintanence).

I (or Hans) will send you the stuff Hans sent me if all else fails: that will 
work for sure.

Best
Idris

Re: Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[Hans Hagen]

ishamid wrote:

>Hi
>  
>
>>===== Original Message From mailing list for ConTeXt users 
>>    
>>
><ntg-context@ntg.nl>
>  
>
>>Then I tried the steps Idris recommend once:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>eomega --ini *plain \dump
>>>eomega --ini *cont-en
>>>texexec --make en -tex=eomega
>>>
>>>are the relevant commands. eomega _is_ aleph.
>>>      
>>>
>
>I'm sure of course that you replaced `eomega' with `aleph';-)
>
>There should be no need to add aleph.exe to your path if you just refresh the 
>fndb, which I'm sure u did also;-)) (I don't know about MacOSX but TeXLive 
>contains a shortcut to that command in Programs=>TeXLive=>Maintanence).
>
>I (or Hans) will send you the stuff Hans sent me if all else fails: that will 
>work for sure.
>  
>
the latest release contains a texexec: 

texexec --make --all --alone --tex=aleph 

you can configure texexec.ini to use the engine subpath which is handy when you run pdfetex along side (the new binaries all have the same suffix now; tetex will not support the tds engine subpath, i dunny yet about fptex and miktex; let's hope that they do) 

(--engine is also possible in texexec 5.0)

Hans 

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Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[Steffen Wolfrum]

ishamid <ishamid@lamar.colostate.edu> wrote:


> Weird: There is almost certainly something wrong in your format file.. Did you 
> install the ConTeXt that came with fpTeX? If so, get rid of it (minus 
> texexec.exe), reinstall the latest version, and try again.
> 
> best
> Idris


Yes, when I installed TeXLive there was also ConTeXt installed.
Then I immediately deleted the files in texmf/tex/context/base/ and texmf/metapost/context/base/ .

Now I also deleted the texmf/.../texexec.ini file and reinstalled context again (texmf-local tree)
Hashed the ls-r, rebuild the formats and tried it again.

Still the same error logs.

Maybe there are still some leftovers from TeXLives ConTeXt interfering?
What is the right way to "get rid of it (minus texexec.exe)"?
When I install ConTeXt in a local tree do I have to delete more ConTeXt files in the main tree?

Thank you,
Steffen

Re: Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[Hans Hagen]

Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

>Yes, when I installed TeXLive there was also ConTeXt installed.
>Then I immediately deleted the files in texmf/tex/context/base/ and texmf/metapost/context/base/ .
>
>Now I also deleted the texmf/.../texexec.ini file and reinstalled context again (texmf-local tree)
>Hashed the ls-r, rebuild the formats and tried it again.
>
>Still the same error logs.
>
>Maybe there are still some leftovers from TeXLives ConTeXt interfering?
>What is the right way to "get rid of it (minus texexec.exe)"?
>When I install ConTeXt in a local tree do I have to delete more ConTeXt files in the main tree?
>  
>
can you check where the pl files go? new paths in tds: 

fonts/enc
fonts/map 

scripts/context/[perl|ruby|...]

web2c/$engine/

in a few days i can try to generate minimal trees for the latest binaries (ones that use the new kpse paths etc) 

Hans 

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RE: Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[ishamid]

>===== Original Message From <ntg-context@ntg.nl> =====

[snip]

> TeXExec 4.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003
>
>
>
>Opt=HASH(0x1b453a4)            executable : aleph
>
>                format : cont-en
>
>             inputfile : alephtest1
>
>                output : dpx
>
>             interface : en
>
>          current mode : none
>
>               TeX run : 1
>

so TeXexec is working...

>
>This is Alephk, Version 3.141592--1.15--2.1--RC3 (Web2c 7.5.3)
>
> %&-line parsing enabled.
>
>Copyright (c) 2002--2004 the Aleph task force
>
>entering extended mode
>
>(alephtest1.tex

and Aleph is working in extended mode

>ConTeXt  ver: 2004.8.15  fmt: 2004.9.16  int: english  mes: english
>

u have a working format...

>*

Weird: There is almost certainly something wrong in your format file.. Did you 
install the ConTeXt that came with fpTeX? If so, get rid of it (minus 
texexec.exe), reinstall the latest version, and try again.

best
Idris

RE: Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[ishamid]

>===== Original Message From <ntg-context@ntg.nl> =====
<snip>

                                        \donothing \dodoappendtoks
>
>l.188 \to \everyresetspecials

2 possibilities

a. Your ConTeXt format is not consistent. Delete your ConTeXt install (ok this 
might not be necessary), make sure you don't have two Contexts (e.g. one in 
texmf and another in texmf-var), reinstall the latest ConTeXt, refresh the 
fndb BEFORE you generate the formats, regenerate the formats, and it should 
work.

b. Also, are you sure that you are running aleph in extended mode? Giuseppe, 
is extended mode the default for aleph or does it have to be explicitly 
invoked?

If Aleph is running in extended mode, and if every ConTeXt file is in the 
fndb,
then it really should work...

Idris

Re[2]: Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Friday, September 17, 2004 ishamid wrote:

>>===== Original Message From <ntg-context@ntg.nl> =====
> <snip>

>                                         \donothing \dodoappendtoks
>>
>>l.188 \to \everyresetspecials

> 2 possibilities

> a. Your ConTeXt format is not consistent. Delete your ConTeXt install (ok this
> might not be necessary), make sure you don't have two Contexts (e.g. one in
> texmf and another in texmf-var), reinstall the latest ConTeXt, refresh the
> fndb BEFORE you generate the formats, regenerate the formats, and it should
> work.

> b. Also, are you sure that you are running aleph in extended mode? Giuseppe,
> is extended mode the default for aleph or does it have to be explicitly
> invoked?

Aleph does not automatically switch to extended mode (it will
before the final release, though). But IIRC texexec
automatically triggers extended mode for Aleph ... Hans? Is
'aleph' among the engines for which extended mode is chosen?

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re: Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[Hans Hagen]

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

>Aleph does not automatically switch to extended mode (it will
>before the final release, though). But IIRC texexec
>automatically triggers extended mode for Aleph ... Hans? Is
>'aleph' among the engines for which extended mode is chosen?
>  
>
sure:

        if ( $TeXExecutable =~ /etex|eetex|pdfetex|pdfeetex|pdfxtex|xpdfetex|eomega|aleph/io ) {
            $TeXPrefix = "*";
        }


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Re: Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[Adam Lindsay]

Hans Hagen said this at Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:33:19 +0200:

>        if ( $TeXExecutable =~ /etex|
>eetex|pdfetex|pdfeetex|pdfxtex|xpdfetex|eomega|aleph/io ) {
>            $TeXPrefix = "*";
>        }

Mind adding "xetex" to that list on your next release? :)
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RE: Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[ishamid]

>There should be no need to add aleph.exe to your path if you just refresh the
>fndb,

Assuming of course that u put aleph.exe in TeXLive/bin or somewhere similar

Idris

Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

in order to use Aleph in ConTeXt I switched from MacOSX to WinXP.

I installed fptex from the latest TeXLive CD (Sept.2003)
installed the recent ConTeXt beta in my local tree,
installed also the latest (?) Aleph version from CTAN ("bin-aleph-1.15--2.2--RC2-win32-static.zip")
in the main tree and followed the steps Hans once wrote here:


> texexec --make --alone --tex=aleph
> 
> texexec yourfile --tex=aleph --output=dpx
> 
> (or first line of file: % tex=aleph output=dvipdfmx)
> 
> 
> Hans


The result was not working:
***

 TeXExec 4.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003



            executable : aleph

                format : cont-en

             inputfile : alephtest1

                output : dvipdfmx

             interface : en

          current mode : none

               TeX run : 1



Der Befehl "aleph" ist entweder falsch geschrieben oder konnte nicht gefunden werden. 
[the command "aleph" is either misspelled or could not be found]

Der Befehl "cont-en" ist entweder falsch geschrieben oder konnte nicht gefunden werden. 
[the command "cont-en" is either misspelled or could not be found]



           return code : 256

              run time : 0 seconds



        total run time : 0 seconds


***


Then I tried the steps Idris recommend once:

> eomega --ini *plain \dump
> eomega --ini *cont-en
> texexec --make en -tex=eomega
> 
> are the relevant commands. eomega _is_ aleph.
> 
> ...
> 
> Idris


The result was the same error output as above.


Could someone who has Aleph successfully running tell me his/her secret, please?

Thank you,
Steffen

Re: Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Thursday, September 16, 2004 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

> Der Befehl "aleph" ist entweder falsch geschrieben oder
> konnte nicht gefunden werden. 
> [the command "aleph" is either misspelled or could not be found]

> Der Befehl "cont-en" ist entweder falsch geschrieben oder
> konnte nicht gefunden werden. 
> [the command "cont-en" is either misspelled or could not be found]

It just seems that aleph.exe is not in a folder accessed by
your PATH. Since you're using WinXP, right-click on My
Computer, select Properties -> Advanced -> Environment
Variables; add the path to aleph into the PATH settings. Reboot
to make sure the changes stick, and try again.

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta