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Am 05.10.2020 um 02:47 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
>> John MacFarlane, the developper of Pandoc, has released a new Citeproc
>> that generates citations and bibliographies using CSL style files (CSL=
>> citation style language). While it is written in Haskell and while it's
>> primarily intended for use with Pandoc, it can also be used in other
>> contexts. Provided with a JSON encoded list of references via stdin, it
>> can produce formatted output.
> The man page of the new citeproc executable, for those who are 
> interested:
>
> https://github.com/jgm/citeproc/blob/master/man/citeproc.1.md
Thanks for adding this.
>
>> I know that ConTeXt has its own infrastructure to format bibliographies
>> and citations, but, given the enormous amount of available styles in
>> CSL, I nevertheless think that this could be a worthwile addition. What
>> would be necessary to make such a toll usable with ConTeXt? How
>> complicated would that be?
> In principle, this should be trivial. [...]
>
> Note that this scheme has a few drawbacks: [...] But I do agree that 
> it will provide us with the ability to use the large number CSL styles.
Thanks for outlining what would be needed.
> Of course, a better option will be write a CSL processor in Lua, but 
> that is a lot of tedious (but relatively simple) task. I wonder if 
> there is already a CSL processor written in Lua.
Yeah, a Lua citeproc would be the best way to go. I contemplated some 
time ago doing this as a learning project, but I have serious doubts I'd 
be able to actually produce something usable by others. There was one 
being developped, but a computer hazard destroyed it somewhere along the 
way Besides, the person who did it told me Lua has somd shortcomings 
that make it a suboptimal tool for this task. But I can't really tell...

Best,
Denis

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    Am 05.10.2020 um 02:47 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;">
      <blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;">John MacFarlane,
        the developper of Pandoc, has released a new Citeproc
        <br>
        that generates citations and bibliographies using CSL style
        files (CSL=
        <br>
        citation style language). While it is written in Haskell and
        while it's
        <br>
        primarily intended for use with Pandoc, it can also be used in
        other
        <br>
        contexts. Provided with a JSON encoded list of references via
        stdin, it
        <br>
        can produce formatted output.
        <br>
      </blockquote>
      The man page of the new citeproc executable, for those who are
      interested:
      <br>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
        href="https://github.com/jgm/citeproc/blob/master/man/citeproc.1.md">https://github.com/jgm/citeproc/blob/master/man/citeproc.1.md</a>
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    Thanks for adding this.
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;">
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;">I know that
        ConTeXt has its own infrastructure to format bibliographies
        <br>
        and citations, but, given the enormous amount of available
        styles in
        <br>
        CSL, I nevertheless think that this could be a worthwile
        addition. What
        <br>
        would be necessary to make such a toll usable with ConTeXt? How
        <br>
        complicated would that be?
        <br>
      </blockquote>
      In principle, this should be trivial. [...]
      <br>
      <br>
      Note that this scheme has a few drawbacks: [...] But I do agree
      that it will provide us with the ability to use the large number
      CSL styles.
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    Thanks for outlining what would be needed.
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;">Of course, a better
      option will be write a CSL processor in Lua, but that is a lot of
      tedious (but relatively simple) task. I wonder if there is already
      a CSL processor written in Lua.
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    Yeah, a Lua citeproc would be the best way to go. I contemplated
    some time ago doing this as a learning project, but I have serious
    doubts I'd be able to actually produce something usable by others.
    There was one being developped, but a computer hazard destroyed it
    somewhere along the way <span class="moz-smiley-s2" title=":-("></span>
    Besides, the person who did it told me Lua has somd shortcomings
    that make it a suboptimal tool for this task. But I can't really
    tell...
    <br>
    <br>
    Best,
    <br>
    Denis
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