Some interaction questions

Some interaction questions

[Denis Maier]

Hi,

I have a few more question regarding interaction/PDF bookmarks and PDF 
links:

- How can you ignore Commands in bookmarks? Like when instead of "The 
concept of {\em bookmarks}", I'd prefer to just have "The concept of 
bookmarks". I know I can just use something like
\startchapter[title=The concept of {\em bookmarks},
                     bookmark=The concept of bookmarks]
But is there an setting for that?

- When clicking on a link, the focus switches to the target page. Is it 
possible to go to the line of the target? (Would be nice for switching 
between notes and text. Otherwise linking between notes and note markers 
would be quite pointless.)

Best,
Denis
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Re: Some interaction questions

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 10/13/20 11:40 AM, Denis Maier wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a few more question regarding interaction/PDF bookmarks and PDF
> links:
>
> - How can you ignore Commands in bookmarks? Like when instead of "The
> concept of {\em bookmarks}", I'd prefer to just have "The concept of
> bookmarks". I know I can just use something like
> \startchapter[title=The concept of {\em bookmarks},
>                      bookmark=The concept of bookmarks]
> But is there an setting for that?

Hi Denis,

I think this is what you want:

  \enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll]

> - When clicking on a link, the focus switches to the target page. Is it
> possible to go to the line of the target? (Would be nice for switching
> between notes and text. Otherwise linking between notes and note markers
> would be quite pointless.)

"focus=standard" in \setupinteraction.

With a minimal sample:

  \setupinteraction[state=start, focus=standard]
  \enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll]
  \placebookmarks[chapter]
  \starttext
  \completecontent
  \chapter{The concept of {\em bookmarks}}
  \stoptext

I hope it helps,

Pablo
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Re: Some interaction questions

[Denis Maier]

Thanks. Both suggestions were very helpful.
Best,
Denis

Am 13.10.2020 um 16:14 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez:
> On 10/13/20 11:40 AM, Denis Maier wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a few more question regarding interaction/PDF bookmarks and PDF
>> links:
>>
>> - How can you ignore Commands in bookmarks? Like when instead of "The
>> concept of {\em bookmarks}", I'd prefer to just have "The concept of
>> bookmarks". I know I can just use something like
>> \startchapter[title=The concept of {\em bookmarks},
>>                       bookmark=The concept of bookmarks]
>> But is there an setting for that?
> Hi Denis,
>
> I think this is what you want:
>
>    \enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll]
>
>> - When clicking on a link, the focus switches to the target page. Is it
>> possible to go to the line of the target? (Would be nice for switching
>> between notes and text. Otherwise linking between notes and note markers
>> would be quite pointless.)
> "focus=standard" in \setupinteraction.
>
> With a minimal sample:
>
>    \setupinteraction[state=start, focus=standard]
>    \enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll]
>    \placebookmarks[chapter]
>    \starttext
>    \completecontent
>    \chapter{The concept of {\em bookmarks}}
>    \stoptext
>
> I hope it helps,
>
> Pablo
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Re: Some interaction questions

[Denis Maier]

Follow up,
I'm trying to also ignore commands when setting PDF metadata:
The wiki gives these examples:

  \appendtoks
      \def\CONTEXT{ConTeXt}
  \to \simplifiedcommands

And:

  \appendtoks
      \let\quad\space
  \to \simplifiedcommands

So, I just added this to my environment file:

\appendtoks
   \def\em{\space}
\to \simplifiedcommands

But, the \em still shows up in the PDF metadata. Is this still the 
recommended way to do this? Or is there an easier way? I guess, even if 
this would remove the \em, that would still leave the braces in place. 
(I'd prefer to remove them as well, but I've no idea how that could work.)

Best,
Denis

Am 13.10.2020 um 16:14 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez:
> On 10/13/20 11:40 AM, Denis Maier wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a few more question regarding interaction/PDF bookmarks and PDF
>> links:
>>
>> - How can you ignore Commands in bookmarks? Like when instead of "The
>> concept of {\em bookmarks}", I'd prefer to just have "The concept of
>> bookmarks". I know I can just use something like
>> \startchapter[title=The concept of {\em bookmarks},
>>                       bookmark=The concept of bookmarks]
>> But is there an setting for that?
> Hi Denis,
>
> I think this is what you want:
>
>    \enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll]
>
>> - When clicking on a link, the focus switches to the target page. Is it
>> possible to go to the line of the target? (Would be nice for switching
>> between notes and text. Otherwise linking between notes and note markers
>> would be quite pointless.)
> "focus=standard" in \setupinteraction.
>
> With a minimal sample:
>
>    \setupinteraction[state=start, focus=standard]
>    \enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll]
>    \placebookmarks[chapter]
>    \starttext
>    \completecontent
>    \chapter{The concept of {\em bookmarks}}
>    \stoptext
>
> I hope it helps,
>
> Pablo
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Re: Some interaction questions

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 10/13/20 10:14 PM, Denis Maier wrote:
> [...]
> So, I just added this to my environment file:
>
> \appendtoks
>    \def\em{\space}
> \to \simplifiedcommands
>
> But, the \em still shows up in the PDF metadata. Is this still the
> recommended way to do this? Or is there an easier way? I guess, even if
> this would remove the \em, that would still leave the braces in place.
> (I'd prefer to remove them as well, but I've no idea how that could work.)

Hi Denis,

\enabledirectives[interaction.identity.preroll] is your friend here.

I think it would be better to update the wiki with these infos.

Many thanks for improving the wiki 😉,

Pablo
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A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV

[Joaquín Ataz López]

Good morning to everyone.

Although I guess it will not be of interest to most of the list members, 
I wanted to communicate that I have written an introduction to ConTeXt 
Mark IV in Spanish, which can be downloaded at 
https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX.pdf. Its title is "An Introduction 
(not too short) to ConTeXt Mark IV".

ConTeXt is a wonderful document composition system, but there is not 
much literature to help you get into it, hence my initiative. The 
problem is that I've only been using ConTeXt for a short time and still 
have many doubts, so it's possible that the introduction may contain 
errors. As it has been written in Spanish I don't think many of you will 
be able to read it, but I would appreciate, of course, any suggestions 
for improvement. The document is, on the other hand, free and anyone who 
wants to include it in any ConTeXt distribution can, of course, do so. 
Also, if anyone wants the source files, I have no problem providing them.

I have not based my introduction on LMTX because I think that for 
beginners a more stable system, like LuaTeX, is preferable.

Finally, I apologize for my bad English level. I read it reasonably 
well, but expressing myself in it is much harder for me.

-- 
Joaquín Ataz López
Derecho Civil
Universidad de Murcia

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Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV

[Hans Hagen]

On 10/14/2020 5:51 AM, Joaquín Ataz López wrote:

> I have not based my introduction on LMTX because I think that for 
> beginners a more stable system, like LuaTeX, is preferable.

lmtx is mostly mkiv compatible, and beginners won't notice a difference 
i think ... of course new features can show up on lmtx or some 
mechanisms can be made better but again, that is not somethign a 
beginner will run into
  Hans

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Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV

[Joaquín Ataz López]

El 14/10/20 a las 15:01, Hans Hagen escribió:
> lmtx is mostly mkiv compatible, and beginners won't notice a 
> difference i think ... of course new features can show up on lmtx or 
> some mechanisms can be made better but again, that is not somethign a 
> beginner will run into
>  Hans 
Of course. You are right; and in fact in the text of my introduction no 
difference is pointed out between lmtx and mkiv. However, as I see from 
this list, in the continuous renewals of lmtx arises, from time to time, 
some bug (which is also fixed immediately) I thought that in the 
appendix concerning the installation, it was preferable to emphasize 
more on the installation of "Context-Standalone" than on the lmtx, 
although I explain both.

-- 
Joaquín Ataz López
Derecho Civil
Universidad de Murcia

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Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV

[BPJ]

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Den ons 14 okt. 2020 06:14Joaquín Ataz López <jal@um.es> skrev:

> Good morning to everyone.
>
> Although I guess it will not be of interest to most of the list members,
> I wanted to communicate that I have written an introduction to ConTeXt
> Mark IV in Spanish, which can be downloaded at
> https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX.pdf. Its title is "An Introduction
> (not too short) to ConTeXt Mark IV".
>

Although I make my way through Spanish text with the help of half-forgotten
"high school" Latin and Italian from 35 years ago plus Wiktionary this is
the book I have been needing! Thank you very much!

This could really become the "lshort" of ConTeXt. The "lshort" was
originally written in German but has been translated into multiple
languages through community effort: <
https://ctan.org/tex-archive/info/lshort>. I'm thinking that in this age of
distributed version control it would be feasible to have multiple people
working on each version.
Since I periodically work as a documentation translator I'm immediately
seized by a desire to translate it into English, and why not also Swedish,
my native language? I would need to improve my Spanish considerably though,
and probably also to invent the 28-hour day! So I'm thinking why not create
a GitHub/GitLab repository (or even organization) for this so that anybody
can help translating it into other languages? Those who know Spanish well
could do the initial translation and then those who know English (or any
other language into which some part(s) have been translated) can do the
proof reading (which is where I really can show my muscle since
proofing/editing is what I mostly do for a living! :-) Then when there
exist more versions anyone can make secondary translations between pairs of
languages which they know.

Cheers,

/Benct

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