From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/16919 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: three questions on footnotes Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 18:37:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4187C5BF.2020500@wxs.nl> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1099417048 32193 80.91.229.6 (2 Nov 2004 17:37:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 17:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Nov 02 18:37:11 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CP2ak-0001RO-00 for ; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 18:37:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21FE127AE; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:37:10 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22377-04; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:37:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CB71278F; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:37:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFF51278F for ; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:37:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22332-08-2 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:37:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mailrelay02.solcon.nl (unknown [212.45.32.200]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0821277F for ; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:37:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from server-1.pragma-net.nl (dsl-212-84-128-085.solcon.nl [212.84.128.85]) by mailrelay02.solcon.nl (8.12.11/SQL-8.12.11-5/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iA2Hb2ZH009103; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:37:02 +0100 Original-Received: by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 8612A18A7F; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:37:05 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.191] (unknown [10.100.1.191]) by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B3618A7D; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 17:37:04 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users , context@st.estfiles.de In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/540/Tue Oct 19 14:59:23 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on mailrelay02 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:16919 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:16919 Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > -> 1. headcommand > > How do I use this new command for moving my footnotemarker? > I found only "location=top" showing a result and that was quite stupid ... > > \setupfootnotedefinition[location=command,headcommand=\llap] as the name suggests, it uses the definition/descriotion environment, so you can use the same configuration options as there; the mentioned location=command gives you the possibility to hook in your own commands \def\MyMove#1{\inframed{#1}} headcommand=\MyMove > -> 2. footnotes (short: behind, long: below)? > > Is there a predefined command for placing short footnotes > at the bottom of each page but horizontally continuos? > > Is saw this way of typesetting footnotes in a book I've read. > It looks likes this: > > body text body text body > text body text body bo- > dy text body text body. > ------ > 1 short 2 short 3 short > 4 short > 5 but hey: the long note > starts in a new line! > > > I have never seen footnotes like this before. But it reads very pleasant: > This way you don't have lot of empty white space (because of short notes), > and it still is very clear (for the long footnote starts on a new line). > > Is it possible to typeset this in ConTeXt? not currently; one complication is that footnotes are collected and so the first one is already on a line of it's own when the seconds enters the game; technically it's possible to implement something that does that by lying to tex about dimensions and such; however, this will not be that robust because tex has to be able to break between note 1 and 2 if needed > -> 3. Footnotes in margin? > > Hans once posted the code listed below. But the result on longer footnotes were halfempty (body text) pages. > Is there a bug fix, a work around? hm, i need to add an option for that, will do Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------