three questions on footnotes

three questions on footnotes

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

as beautiful footnote placement is one of the most brilliant features in TeX
I were happy if these three detail questions could also be answered with ConTeXt.

Hans, do you have some time left to have a look, please?

As always, thank you very much,

Steffen


-> 1. headcommand

How do I use this new command for moving my footnotemarker?
I found only "location=top" showing a result and that was quite stupid ...

\setupfootnotedefinition[location=command,headcommand=\llap]



-> 2. footnotes (short: behind, long: below)?

Is there a predefined command for placing short footnotes
at the bottom of each page but horizontally continuos?

Is saw this way of typesetting footnotes in a book I've read.
It looks likes this:

body text body text body
text body  text body bo-
dy  text body  text body.
------
1 short   2 short 3 short
4 short
5 but hey: the long note
starts in a new line!


I have never seen footnotes like this before. But it reads very pleasant:
This way you don't have lot of empty white space (because of short notes),
and it still is very clear (for the long footnote starts on a new line).

Is it possible to typeset this in ConTeXt?



-> 3. Footnotes in margin? 

Hans once posted the code listed below. But the result on longer footnotes were halfempty (body text) pages.
Is there a bug fix, a work around?


> >does ConTeXt provide a way to place footnote (not margin notes!) per page - but not below the body text?
> >A suitable place could be the margin. But there is no "\setupfootnotes[location=inmargin]"
> >and somthing like "\inmargin{\footnote{}The footnote's text.}" doesn't flow.
> >
> >Does anybody know a working solution?
> >  
> >
> Idris should know since i made him definable footnotes -) 
> 
> \showframe
> 
> \definenote[mynote][way=bypage,location=text,width=\marginwidth,rule=,before=]
> 
> \setuplayout[backspace=5cm,margin=3cm,margindistance=.5cm,width=middle]
> 
> \setuptexttexts
>   [margin]
>   [\vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill}]
>   []
> 
> \starttext
> 
> test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page
> test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page
> test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page
> test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> or a bit more modern (structured, readable, replacable): 
> 
> \setuptexttexts
>   [margin]
>   [\setups{flushmynotes}]
>   []
> 
> \startsetups flushmynotes
> 
>   \vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill}
> 
> \stopsetups

Re: three questions on footnotes

[Hans Hagen]

Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

> -> 1. headcommand
> 
> How do I use this new command for moving my footnotemarker?
> I found only "location=top" showing a result and that was quite stupid ...
> 
> \setupfootnotedefinition[location=command,headcommand=\llap]

as the name suggests, it uses the definition/descriotion environment, so 
you can use the same configuration options as there; the mentioned 
location=command gives you the possibility to hook in your own commands

\def\MyMove#1{\inframed{#1}}

headcommand=\MyMove

> -> 2. footnotes (short: behind, long: below)?
> 
> Is there a predefined command for placing short footnotes
> at the bottom of each page but horizontally continuos?
> 
> Is saw this way of typesetting footnotes in a book I've read.
> It looks likes this:
> 
> body text body text body
> text body  text body bo-
> dy  text body  text body.
> ------
> 1 short   2 short 3 short
> 4 short
> 5 but hey: the long note
> starts in a new line!
> 
> 
> I have never seen footnotes like this before. But it reads very pleasant:
> This way you don't have lot of empty white space (because of short notes),
> and it still is very clear (for the long footnote starts on a new line).
> 
> Is it possible to typeset this in ConTeXt?

not currently; one complication is that footnotes are collected and so 
the first one is already on a line of it's own when the seconds enters 
the game; technically it's possible to implement something that does 
that by lying to tex about dimensions and such; however, this will not 
be that robust because tex has to be able to break between note 1 and 2 
if needed

> -> 3. Footnotes in margin? 
> 
> Hans once posted the code listed below. But the result on longer footnotes were halfempty (body text) pages.
> Is there a bug fix, a work around?

hm, i need to add an option for that, will do

Hans


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