From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/17328 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Creutzig Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: m-bib, \cite and no year? Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:35:54 +0100 Message-ID: <41ACA16A.90104@creutzig.de> References: <41A332BA.2090509@creutzig.de> <20041124135831.0ae7eaff.taco@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1101832574 10645 80.91.229.6 (30 Nov 2004 16:36:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Nov 30 17:36:02 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CZAyw-000803-00 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:36:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47D012796; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:36:01 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02538-03; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:35:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE1D12787; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:35:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C13612787 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:35:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02456-04 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:35:56 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mailgate2.uni-paderborn.de (unknown [131.234.22.35]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF6812783 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:35:56 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mlt131.math.uni-paderborn.de ([131.234.103.131]) by mailgate2.uni-paderborn.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1CZAy2-0001Iu-1o for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:35:06 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: de, en-gb, en, en-us Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <20041124135831.0ae7eaff.taco@elvenkind.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-UNI-PB_FAK-EIM-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://imap.uni-paderborn.de for details X-UNI-PB_FAK-EIM-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UNI-PB_FAK-EIM-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-5, required 4, AUTH_EIM_USER -5.00) X-MailScanner-From: christopher@creutzig.de X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:17328 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:17328 Taco Hoekwater wrote: > In authoryear styles, year entries are usually required, so I am going = to=20 > keep this as it is now. You can either use \cite[author] for this case,= or=20 > you could build your own \cite command, in a similar way to Tobias' ans= wer: Sorry for bothering you that much. I'm now using \cite[author], yet there is one place I can't solve that way, which is cross references: @Article{dominus04, author =3D {Mark Jason Dominus}, title =3D {Slide Rule}, journal =3D {Wikipedia}, year =3D 2004, crossref =3D {Wikipedia}, month =3D May, note =3D =20 {\gotoURL{http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=3DSlide_rule&oldid=3D= 3849585}} } @Misc{Wikipedia, key =3D {Wikipedia}, title =3D {Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia}, howpublished =3D {\gotoURL{http://wikipedia.com}} } Not that I plan to use really many wikipedia entries, but the problem as such seems to exist. (I am not sure about using @Article here, but that's another topic.) As an aside, there is another problem: The entry cross-referenced to does not appear =96 this seems to be a general problem with cross-references. I'm using \completepublications, but the same happens with \placepublications. (I haven't managed to get the list sorted by author, either.) Another thing I stumbled upon: Using \type{whatever} in a BibTeX entry does not work: =93whatever=94 is simply ignored. (It is intact in the .b= bl=20 file, as in \startpublication[k=3DKulpa,t=3Dmisc, a=3D{Kulpa},y=3D2004, n=3D40,s=3DKul04] \author[]{Zenon}[Z.]{}{Kulpa} \pubyear{2004} \month{6} \pubname{{message \type{200406071815.UAA18036@zmit1.ippt.gov.pl} on the=20 mailing list \type{reliable_computing@interval.louisiana.edu}}} \stoppublication where I'm using \type because of the _.) Finally, the entry \startpublication[k=3Dabramowitz,t=3Dbook, a=3D{Abramowitz and Stegun},y=3D1972, n=3D30,s=3DAS72] \editor[]{Milton}[M.]{}{Abramowitz} \editor[]{Irene~A.}[I.~A.]{}{Stegun} \pubyear{1972} \title{{Handbook of Mathematical Functions}} \pubname{Dover Publications} \edition{ninth} \stoppublication is indented by about one interword space relative to the entries not using \editor. Which commands do the actual typesetting of the list=20 entries? I only got to \@@pbt and was lost ... regards, Christopher Creutzig