From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/17662 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Sidebars and versals Oh my! Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:19:18 +0100 Message-ID: <41D07C56.7050508@wxs.nl> References: <200412271529.10169.john@wexfordpress.com> <20041227205641.10232@news.comp.lancs.ac.uk> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1104182585 23173 80.91.229.6 (27 Dec 2004 21:23:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users , John Culleton Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Dec 27 22:22:59 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cj2KR-00010P-00 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:22:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E491278D; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:22:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13914-05; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:22:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B829A1279C; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:19:27 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E191279C for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:19:25 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13910-05 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:19:25 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mailrelay01.solcon.nl (unknown [212.45.32.200]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE7C1278D for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:19:25 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from server-1.pragma-net.nl (dsl-212-84-128-085.solcon.nl [212.84.128.85]) by mailrelay01.solcon.nl (8.12.11/SQL-8.12.11-5/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBRLJEUl016183; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:19:14 +0100 Original-Received: by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 698161855E; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:16:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.191] (unknown [10.100.1.191]) by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1AD17B14; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:16:57 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Adam Lindsay In-Reply-To: <20041227205641.10232@news.comp.lancs.ac.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/540/Tue Oct 19 14:59:23 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on mailrelay01 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:17662 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:17662 Adam Lindsay wrote: > Delving further into details.pdf (I got this from a day of playing with > it--which is hardly adequate for really digesting one of Hans's manuals) > will probably yield even better results. ok, i know they're sub optimal, but things like grids and graphics are troublesome anyway (we often get naive design specs like 'everything should go on the grid' and after that we enter some endless loop of 'do this and change that' simply because grids and graphic placement don't go well with other demands; normally in hand-tuned dtp a lot of cheating goes on which context has to kind of figure out itself; so ... what you see in details.pdf is actually a summary of our struggle with 'designers') Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------