Bib module produces no output

Bib module produces no output

[David Antos]

	Hello,

bib module of 30-8-2004 produces no bibliography list on
\placepublications with ConTeXt 2004.12.17 (last stable) and/or latest
beta.

The workaround is to use
\setuplist[pubs][criterium=all]
somewhere in the setup.

Can you please make including the whole bibliography make the default?
I'm pretty sure that's what everybody expects :-)

Thanks,
D.A.

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Re: Bib module produces no output

[Taco Hoekwater]

This item has remained on my todo list because the 'criterium=all' 
seemed at the time to be a bug in context itself. Will fix soon.


David Antos wrote:
> 	Hello,
> 
> bib module of 30-8-2004 produces no bibliography list on
> \placepublications with ConTeXt 2004.12.17 (last stable) and/or latest
> beta.
> 
> The workaround is to use
> \setuplist[pubs][criterium=all]
> somewhere in the setup.
> 
> Can you please make including the whole bibliography make the default?
> I'm pretty sure that's what everybody expects :-)
> 
> Thanks,
> D.A.
> 

Re: Bib module produces no output

[David Antos]

On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 03:58:15PM +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> This item has remained on my todo list because the 'criterium=all' 
> seemed at the time to be a bug in context itself. Will fix soon.

Hello,

thanks, nevertheless, more things seem to be broken with lists now.

I often use
\setupcombinedlist
  [content]
  [alternative=c]

It should (and used to) produce a list with dot leaders between names
and page numbers. It doesn't in the last stable. (I've tried to look
into core-lst, but it's too complicated for me :-)

Alternatives a, b, and c produce number-title-spaces-pagenumber,
d, e, f, and g seem to be correct.

Can you please have a look?

Thanks,
D.A.

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Re: Bib module produces no output

[Hans Hagen]

Hi David,

> Alternatives a, b, and c produce number-title-spaces-pagenumber,
> d, e, f, and g seem to be correct.
> 
> Can you please have a look?

ah, some dutch left-overs in the interface translation:

search for variant in core-lst,tex:


\def\@@lialternativea% nr - tit - pag
   {\def\lijstfill{\hskip .25em}% omdat nu check
    \def\lijstskip{0em}%
    \def\lijstwidth{2em}}

\def\@@lialternativeb% nr - tit - fill - pag
   {\def\lijstfill{\hfill}%  was \hskip.5em\hfill
    \def\lijstskip{5em}%
    \def\lijstwidth{2em}}

\def\@@lialternativec% nr - tit - dots - pag
   {\def\lijstfill{\hskip.5em\lijstdots\hskip.5em}%
    \def\lijstskip{5em}%
    \def\lijstwidth{0pt}}

\def\@@lialternative
   {\@@lialternativeb}

\@@lialternativeb

(even better: \setvalue{\??li\c!alternative a}% ....)

Hans


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Re: Bib module produces no output

[David Antos]

Hello Hans,

On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 12:17:34PM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >Alternatives a, b, and c produce number-title-spaces-pagenumber,
> >d, e, f, and g seem to be correct.
> >
> >Can you please have a look?
> 
> ah, some dutch left-overs in the interface translation:
> 
> search for variant in core-lst,tex:

sorry, I don't follow you :-(. What I'm saying is that alternatives a,
b, and c produce the same result (equal to `b' setting).

I expect this to expand to the macros you've cited in the end, so I
expect that
\setupcombinedlist
  [content]
  [alternative=c]
should work.

> \def\@@lialternative
>   {\@@lialternativeb}
> 
> \@@lialternativeb
> 
> (even better: \setvalue{\??li\c!alternative a}% ....)

OK, how should this help? I've tried all of them in the setup (with
other alternatives like a or c, too), only the first \def goes without
error and has no effect, though.

Thanks and sorry for being a bit slow,
D.A.

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Re: Bib module produces no output

[Hans Hagen]

David Antos wrote:

>>...
>>
>>\def\@@lialternative
>>  {\@@lialternativeb}
>>
>>\@@lialternativeb
>>
>>(even better: \setvalue{\??li\c!alternative a}% ....)

just move that code into core-lst.tex (search for 'variant' to locate the old 
versions)

> OK, how should this help? I've tried all of them in the setup (with
> other alternatives like a or c, too), only the first \def goes without
> error and has no effect, though.

when patched, regenerate the format

[so effectively, in the code, '*variantc' becomes '*alternativec']

> Thanks and sorry for being a bit slow,

no problem,

Hans

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Re: Bib module produces no output

[Christopher Creutzig]

David Antos wrote:

> Can you please make including the whole bibliography make the default?
> I'm pretty sure that's what everybody expects :-)

  Definitely not.  I don't know about you, but I'd very much prefer to
use the same .bib file for different articles/texts.  Numerous groups
in this and other universities even use a collective .bib file for
all the researchers.  (We are just doing too diverse things in this
group for that.)

rgeards,
	Christopher Creutzig

Re: Bib module produces no output

[David Antos]

On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 11:00:51AM +0100, Christopher Creutzig wrote:
>  Definitely not.  I don't know about you, but I'd very much prefer to
> use the same .bib file for different articles/texts.  Numerous groups
> in this and other universities even use a collective .bib file for
> all the researchers.  (We are just doing too diverse things in this
> group for that.)

Hello,

don't worry, that is not the point. What I wanted is to include all
bibliographies cited in the work, not just the current chapter (which is
empty if you have a separate "bibliography chapter").

It has nothing to do with choosing the entries from .bib file. This
should include cited entries only and all entries as an option (as we're
used to).

D.A.

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Re: Bib module produces no output

[Hans Hagen]

David Antos wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 11:00:51AM +0100, Christopher Creutzig wrote:
> 
>> Definitely not.  I don't know about you, but I'd very much prefer to
>>use the same .bib file for different articles/texts.  Numerous groups
>>in this and other universities even use a collective .bib file for
>>all the researchers.  (We are just doing too diverse things in this
>>group for that.)
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> don't worry, that is not the point. What I wanted is to include all
> bibliographies cited in the work, not just the current chapter (which is
> empty if you have a separate "bibliography chapter").
> 
> It has nothing to do with choosing the entries from .bib file. This
> should include cited entries only and all entries as an option (as we're
> used to).

i an look into it but then i need some files [indeed a minimal example] to test 
with; i don't have bib tex files and/or files using them on my system

Hans

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Re: Bib module produces no output

[Taco Hoekwater]

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> i an look into it but then i need some files [indeed a minimal example] 
> to test with; i don't have bib tex files and/or files using them on my 
> system

no need, the attached file is enough. (un)comment the \section
for failure/success toggle.

[-- Attachment #2: bibdemo.tex --]
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\usemodule[bib]

\startpublication[k=don,t=book]
\title{The \TeX book}
\stoppublication

\starttext
% \section{test}
As you can see in~\cite[don], \TeX\ is quite interesting.
\completepublications
\stoptext

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