From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/17990 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Russia (cyrillic letters) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:23:29 +0100 Message-ID: <41F8B311.6060604@wxs.nl> References: <41F41B8D.20908@wxs.nl> <41F6615C.9070001@wxs.nl> <41F761B4.4060102@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1106817826 12881 80.91.229.6 (27 Jan 2005 09:23:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jan 27 10:23:39 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cu5sJ-0003qk-00 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:23:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5A9127C0; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:23:39 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16253-10; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:23:37 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B9F127C2; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:23:36 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43BB127C2 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:23:34 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16255-03 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:23:33 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mailrelay01.solcon.nl (maillb.solcon.nl [212.45.32.200]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70080127C0 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:23:33 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from server-1.pragma-net.nl (dsl-212-84-128-085.solcon.nl [212.84.128.85]) by mailrelay01.solcon.nl (8.12.11/SQL-8.12.11-5/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0R9NTn6031521; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:23:29 +0100 Original-Received: by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 8269417B24; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:15:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.191] (unknown [10.100.1.191]) by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067DF17B1C; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:15:52 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Mikael Persson , mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/540/Tue Oct 19 14:59:23 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on mailrelay01 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:17990 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:17990 Mikael Persson wrote: > Hm, I don't think so. But that is a question for everyone to consider. > However, if you ask me I would be happy to have (snipped from the > README file): > rm: Computer Modern Roman > sl: Computer Modern Slanted > ti: Computer Modern Italic > cc: Computer Modern Caps and Small Caps > ui: Computer Modern Unslanted Italic is this oen really used? > sc: Computer Modern Slanted Caps and Small Caps > ci: Computer Modern Classical Serif Italic is that one used? > bx: Computer Modern Bold Extended > bl: Computer Modern Bold Extended Slanted > bi: Computer Modern Bold Extended Italic > xc: Computer Modern Bold Extended Caps and Small Caps > oc: Computer Modern Bold Extended Slanted Caps and Small Caps > rb: Computer Modern Roman Bold > bm: Computer Modern Roman Bold Variant > ss: Computer Modern Sans Serif > si: Computer Modern Sans Serif Slanted > sx: Computer Modern Sans Serif Bold Extended > so: Computer Modern Sans Serif Bold Extended Slanted > tt: Computer Modern Typewriter > st: Computer Modern Typewriter Slanted > it: Computer Modern Typewriter Italic > tc: Computer Modern Typewriter Caps and Small Caps > vt: Computer Modern Variable Width Typewriter > vi: Computer Modern Variable Width Typewriter Italic > "Each font shape comes in 14 font sizes ranging from 5pt to 35.83pt (or > 11 font sizes for typewriter fonts ranging from 8pt to 35.83pt)." > > I don't think all sizes are necessary. if we stick to 10pt as base ... (see type-cbg.tex) > and moreover it would be nice to have > > sform5 .. sform10: Computer Modern Concrete Roman > sfosl5 .. sfosl10: Computer Modern Concrete Slanted > sfoti10: Computer Modern Concrete Italic > sfocc10: Computer Modern Concrete Caps and Small Caps ok, but a different set > (maybe not all sizes here either) > and > > sfbmr{8,9,10,17}: Computer Modern Bright Roman > sfbmo{8,9,10,17}: Computer Modern Bright Oblique > sfbsr{8,9,10,17}: Computer Modern Bright Semibold > sfbso{8,9,10,17}: Computer Modern Bright Semibold Oblique > sfbbx10: Computer Modern Bright Bold Extended > sfbtl10: Computer Modern Typewriter Light > sfbto10: Computer Modern Typewriter Light Oblique used? keep in mind that cmsuper is far from perfect > Hm, well, this is all but ~18 (times 13 or 14 sizes)... so maybe it is > worth to have them all? What do one loose? speed? work? If work, then > I am ready to write what shall be written if you only show me for one > font. i don't want 75 meg font files; i can live with 2 meg extra in the minimal distribution, so a base of 10pt ones sounds ok to me so: - we need a koi vector (enco-koi) - a list of the 10pt font files that make sense > About the encodings: According to my russian friend koi8-r is the most > common now, but utf is coming more and more. This is what one person > said, so if someone else think it is different, they may very well be > right (my friend is mostly TeX:ing on UNIX systems, and from what I > read from search results, the koi8r and koi8-r (which seems to be the > same?) are mostly used on UNIX and www. So maybe the windows 1521 > encoding is still used by Windows users?) > > However, I can't get it working with koi8-r. It works in LaTeX (tried > with the russian "Not so short introduction to LaTeX" document, and it > seemed to use t2a and koi8-r). Under ConTeXt, the document I try (the > rexample.tex saved in koi8-r instead of windows 1521) compiles, I get > russian letters, but the letters are at wrong places. I am using > \enableregime[koi8-r], and saving the document in koi8-r encoding. Is > there anything else I should do? so where does this t2a then fit in? we can make koi the main one and move the t2's to some additional typescript [so that it no longer slows down things] that users can 'load' in their cont-sys.tex Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------