From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/18173 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vit Zyka Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: alpha release / latin modern Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 16:33:46 +0100 Message-ID: <4208DBDA.3050300@seznam.cz> References: <4208A2CC.5090505@seznam.cz> <20050208114403.13642@mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk> <4208AF67.7030609@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107876938 12809 80.91.229.2 (8 Feb 2005 15:35:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Feb 08 16:35:38 2005 Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CyXNJ-0005ZX-Ae for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 16:34:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC5F127C1; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:35:25 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04396-05; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:35:25 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08525127A2; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:33:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B547127A2 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:33:04 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04503-01 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:33:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp.seznam.cz (smtp.seznam.cz [212.80.76.43]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 937BC12795 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:33:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (qmail 10384 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2005 15:33:02 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (vit.zyka@82.142.74.35) by smtp.seznam.cz with SMTP; 8 Feb 2005 15:33:02 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <4208AF67.7030609@wxs.nl> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0505-0, 31.01.2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-MailScanner-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-MailScanner-To: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:18173 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:18173 Hans Hagen wrote: > btw, if you patch enco-il2 by > > \startcoding[il2][il2] % second entry > > and regenerate the format you have a regime for free -) OK. That is the game. Chars were born. I prepared a quick comparision of Czech/Slovak accented letters (Latin Modern v. CS Fonts). See http://typokvitek.com/tmp/latin.pdf Font design is very subjective game, I know. There is my comment: 1) LM has very ugly caron 2) caron is too high at both capitals and minuscules 3) ring is lifeless/faint 4) acute is OK; I would prefer vertical position somewhere inbetween LM an CS, but CS are consistent with tight accents (acute and caron) 5) \v t: caron is too low (does not look as neither ligature connection nor separate accent No kernings checking for now, just glyph drawing. I can ask LM author (Boguslaw Jackowski ?) about his opinion. But the current tests (especially points 1,2,3) prevent me from the LM font usage in ConTeXt. So, for me, there are two possibilities to fullfil my aesthetic feeling: 1) go back to the old (no lm) ConTeXt version, or 2) simple switch to set complete CS fonts environment (I use the next code, but it is just a quick hack: \loadmapfile[il2-ams-cmr.map] \definetypeface[computer-modern][il2] \setupbodyfont[modern] I prefer the second variant. Can we find its solution? Thank vit