Fonts in ConTeXt!

Fonts in ConTeXt!

[G.C.H.M. Verhaag]

  Beste ConTeXt gebruikers,

Ik worstel al enige tijd met fonts in ConTeXt, en moet tot de conclusie 
komen dat ik er niets van begrijp, sorry!

Heb ook geprobeerd diverse handleidingen m.b.t. fonts, zoals `Fonts in 
ConTeXt' door te spitten, maar ben hierin eveneens hopeloos vast 
gelopen. Afm-, tfm- en mapfiles voor mij ondoorgrondelijk!

Ben er nog nooit in geslaagd een ander font te gebruiken dan het 
standaard font! Ik pas momenteel TeXLive 2003 toe.

Is er iemand die op een simpele manier kan aangeven hoe ik dat werkend 
kan krijgen, zonder direct in jargon te vervallen?

Ik krijg het Palatino font zoals bijvoorbeeld beschreven op pag. 91 van 
MAPS (najaar 2004) domweg niet werkend. Het boekje met al die mooie font 
voorbeelden is erg fraai, maar mij is het nog nooit gelukt een letter 
hiervan te produceren! En dit alles moet toch met de standaard TeXLive 
distributie makkelijk kunnen, zo begrijp ik.

Ik ben onder de indruk van de kwaliteit van TeX, en dat is precies de 
reden waarom ik het gebruik! Maar dat gedoe met fonts maakt mij radeloos!

Mijn laatste hoop is gevestigd op dit discussie-medium, om er achter te 
komen of ik de enige ben die dit probleem niet onder de knie weet te 
krijgen!

Kan iemand mij op weg helpen, om dit probleem te begrijpen, en 
uiteindelijk op te lossen?

Bij voorbaat dank!
                  
M.vr.gr.,
    Geert

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Re: Fonts in ConTeXt!

[Hans Hagen]

G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
>  Beste ConTeXt gebruikers,
> 
> Ik worstel al enige tijd met fonts in ConTeXt, en moet tot de conclusie 
> komen dat ik er niets van begrijp, sorry!
> 
> Heb ook geprobeerd diverse handleidingen m.b.t. fonts, zoals `Fonts in 
> ConTeXt' door te spitten, maar ben hierin eveneens hopeloos vast 
> gelopen. Afm-, tfm- en mapfiles voor mij ondoorgrondelijk!
> 
> Ben er nog nooit in geslaagd een ander font te gebruiken dan het 
> standaard font! Ik pas momenteel TeXLive 2003 toe.
> 
> Is er iemand die op een simpele manier kan aangeven hoe ik dat werkend 
> kan krijgen, zonder direct in jargon te vervallen?
> 
> Ik krijg het Palatino font zoals bijvoorbeeld beschreven op pag. 91 van 
> MAPS (najaar 2004) domweg niet werkend. Het boekje met al die mooie font 
> voorbeelden is erg fraai, maar mij is het nog nooit gelukt een letter 
> hiervan te produceren! En dit alles moet toch met de standaard TeXLive 
> distributie makkelijk kunnen, zo begrijp ik.
> 
> Ik ben onder de indruk van de kwaliteit van TeX, en dat is precies de 
> reden waarom ik het gebruik! Maar dat gedoe met fonts maakt mij radeloos!
> 
> Mijn laatste hoop is gevestigd op dit discussie-medium, om er achter te 
> komen of ik de enige ben die dit probleem niet onder de knie weet te 
> krijgen!
> 
> Kan iemand mij op weg helpen, om dit probleem te begrijpen, en 
> uiteindelijk op te lossen?

what does the following file produce? (log file etc)

\setupoutput[pdftex]
\usetypescript[berry][ec]
\setupencoding[ec]
\usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[palatino]

\starttext

test

\stoptext


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Re: Fonts in ConTeXt!

[G.C.H.M. Verhaag]

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Hans Hagen wrote:

>
> what does the following file produce? (log file etc)
>
> \setupoutput[pdftex]
> \usetypescript[berry][ec]
> \setupencoding[ec]
> \usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
> \setupbodyfont[palatino]
>
> \starttext
>
> test
>
> \stoptext
>
> .....
>
Hans,

I've decided to send you the complete file (test.log)! You'll find it 
attached!

I used the command: texexec --pdf test to produce it. By the way I'm 
running Debian 3.0r Linux!

Regards,
    Geert

-- 
Geert C.H.M. Verhaag
St. Jorisstraat 29
5954 AN Beesel
NETHERLANDS

Tel.: (+31)-774742493, E-mail: verhaaggchm@ision.nl



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entering extended mode
 %&-line parsing enabled.
 (/usr/TeX/texmf/web2c/cp8bit.tcx)
**&cont-en test.tex
(./test.tex{/usr/TeX/texmf-var/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}

ConTeXt  ver: 2003.9.25  fmt: 2004.5.1  int: english  mes: english

language       : language en is active
<protectionstate 0>
system         : cont-new loaded
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems        : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex!
)
system         : cont-old loaded
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading        : Context Old Macros
)
system         : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading        : Context File Synonyms
)
bodyfont       : 12pt rm is loaded
language       : patterns 2:2-en-2 3:2-uk-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2 7:2-it-2
 8:2-nl-2 loaded
specials       : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
\openout2 = `test.tui'.

system         : test.top loaded
(./test.top
specials       : loading definition file tpd
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials       : loading definition file fdf
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex <unprotect 3> <unprotect 4>
system (E-TEX) : [line 1907] \ifcsname 
<protect 4> <protect 3>)
specials       : fdf loaded
<unprotect 3> <protect 3>)
specials       : fdf,tpd loaded
)
\openout0 = `mpgraph.mp'.

\openout0 = `mprun.mp'.

\openout0 = `mpgraph.mp'.

\openout0 = `mprun.mp'.


pdftex         : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map
pdftex         : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map
specials       : loading definition file tpd
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials       : loading definition file fdf
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex <unprotect 3>
system (E-TEX) : [line 1907] \ifcsname 
<protect 3>)
specials       : fdf loaded
)
specials       : fdf,tpd loaded
fonts          : [berry] [ec] []
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
check          : missing or ungrouped '=' after 'ec' in line 3 (@@ec)
fonts          : [palatino] [ec] []
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex
fonts          : [palatino] [rm] [serif] [palatino]
fonts          : [map] [ec] []
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex
pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-cmr.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-euler.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-adobe-utopia.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-bit-charter.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-public-antp.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-public-antt.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-urw-bookman.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-urw-courier.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-urw-helvetica.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-urw-palatino.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-urw-times.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-urw-zapfchan.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-youngryu-px.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-youngryu-tx.map
pdftex         : needs map file: ec-bh-lucida.map
pdftex         : needs map file: fourier.map
pdftex         : needs map file: fourier-utopia-expert.map
) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
fonts          : [serif] [palatino] [name,default,ec,special]
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
fonts          : [serif] [default] [size]
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
fonts          : [palatino] [mm] [math] [palatino]
fonts          : [map] [default] []
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex
pdftex         : needs map file: original-micropress-informal.map
) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
fonts          : [math] [palatino] [name,default,default,special]
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
fonts          : [math] [default] [size]
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
fonts          : [palatino] [tt] [mono] [computer-modern]
fonts          : [map] [ec] []
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
fonts          : [mono] [computer-modern] [name,default,ec,special]
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
fonts          : [mono] [default] [size]
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex))
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
! Font \*palatino12ptrmtf*:=uplr8t at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file no
t found.
<to be read again> 
                   \let 
\xxdododefinefont ... {#4}\newfontidentifier \let 
                                                  \localrelativefontsize \de...

\fontstrategy ...me \fontclass #2#3#4#5\endcsname 
                                                  \tryingfontfalse \fi 
<inserted text> ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize 
                                                  \fi \iftryingfont \fontstr...

\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies 
                                                  \relax \fi \iftryingfont \...
<argument> \getvalue {\@style@ \fontstyle }
                                           \edef \fontstyle {\fontstyle }\if...
...
l.5 \setupbodyfont[palatino]
                            
? x
 
Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
 1869 strings out of 67444
 35787 string characters out of 742230
 4430185 words of memory out of 5535671
 32109 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+50000
 10284 words of font info for 34 fonts, out of 1000000 for 2000
 64 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000
 45i,1n,61p,292b,53s stack positions out of 5000i,500n,6000p,200000b,40000s
 0 PDF objects out of 300000
 0 named destinations out of 131072
 1 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536
No pages of output.

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Re: Fonts in ConTeXt!

[Hans Hagen]

G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:

> I've decided to send you the complete file (test.log)! You'll find it 
> attached!
> 
> I used the command: texexec --pdf test to produce it. By the way I'm 
> running Debian 3.0r Linux!

This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11a-2.1 (Web2C 7.5.2) (format=cont-en 
2004.5.1)  7 FEB 2005 17:48
entering extended mode
  %&-line parsing enabled.
  (/usr/TeX/texmf/web2c/cp8bit.tcx)
**&cont-en test.tex
(./test.tex{/usr/TeX/texmf-var/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}

ConTeXt  ver: 2003.9.25  fmt: 2004.5.1  int: english  mes: english

language       : language en is active

quite ancient ... (we now have pdftex > 1.20)

- remove the debian tex
- install tetex (3 beta)
- if needed update context

or

- fetch the minimal context linux tree from our website

(run setuptex in the root of it to enable that tree)

Hans

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Re: Fonts in ConTeXt!

[VnPenguin]

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 10:07:58 +0100, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
> 
> > I've decided to send you the complete file (test.log)! You'll find it
> > attached!
> >
> 
> - remove the debian tex
> - install tetex (3 beta)

No, tetex-3.0 is official release, not beta :)

Q.

Re: Fonts in ConTeXt!

[G.C.H.M. Verhaag]

  Hans Hagen wrote:

>
> .....
>
> quite ancient ... (we now have pdftex > 1.20)
>
> - remove the debian tex
> - install tetex (3 beta)
> - if needed update context
>
> or
>
> - fetch the minimal context linux tree from our website
>
> (run setuptex in the root of it to enable that tree)
>
>
I'm afraid that I don't understand this! I'm not using Debian TeX, but 
installed TeXLive Ed.9 (2003) on my Debian (3.0r) based Linux box.

Am I right in saying that an installation of ConTeXt from TeXLive is 
incomplete? Do I really have to fetch the latest ConTeXt from PRAGMA ADE 
to get those fonts working? Do I perhaps have to configure ConTeXt more 
before being able to use those fonts?

Well fetching large files from Internet is very time consuming when 
using a simple modem, which I do, with an average speed of around 
4Kbytes/sec! So this isn't really an option.

Isn't it possible to create the missing tfm files, which ConTeXt uses, 
from the fonts already present in /usr/TeX/texmf/fonts?

What if I install TeXLive 2004?

Regards,
    Geert

-- 
Geert C.H.M. Verhaag
St. Jorisstraat 29
5954 AN Beesel
NETHERLANDS

Tel.: (+31)-774742493, E-mail: verhaaggchm@ision.nl

Re: Fonts in ConTeXt!

[Vit Zyka]

G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
>  Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>> .....
>>
>> quite ancient ... (we now have pdftex > 1.20)
>>
>> - remove the debian tex
>> - install tetex (3 beta)
>> - if needed update context
>>
>> or
>>
>> - fetch the minimal context linux tree from our website
>>
>> (run setuptex in the root of it to enable that tree)
>>
>>
> I'm afraid that I don't understand this! I'm not using Debian TeX, but 
> installed TeXLive Ed.9 (2003) on my Debian (3.0r) based Linux box.
 >
> Am I right in saying that an installation of ConTeXt from TeXLive is 
> incomplete? Do I really have to fetch the latest ConTeXt from PRAGMA ADE 

TeX Live 2003 is 1.5 year old distribution. It is very fresh for 
(plain)TeX but mediaeval for ConTeXt. More over you can not combine TeX 
Live 2003 with today ConTeXt (if you have no deep insight).

> What if I install TeXLive 2004?

Yes that is the solution (we have already recommended). Install TeX Live 
2004 and (optionally) fresh ConTeXt (cont-tmf.zip).

Vit

Re: Fonts in ConTeXt!

[Hans Hagen]

G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:

> I'm afraid that I don't understand this! I'm not using Debian TeX, but 
> installed TeXLive Ed.9 (2003) on my Debian (3.0r) based Linux box.
> 
> Am I right in saying that an installation of ConTeXt from TeXLive is 
> incomplete? Do I really have to fetch the latest ConTeXt from PRAGMA ADE 
> to get those fonts working? Do I perhaps have to configure ConTeXt more 
> before being able to use those fonts?

normally that should work, however

- sometimes linxu distributions have preinstalled tex's or have the profiles 
adapted for tex installations, and that may clash

- there have been some fundamental non compatible changed in the tex tree and 
extensions to pdftex so it's best not to mix old and new, i.e. best to update to 
the latest greatest

> Well fetching large files from Internet is very time consuming when 
> using a simple modem, which I do, with an average speed of around 
> 4Kbytes/sec! So this isn't really an option.

actually, when you would install the minumal tree, you could use rsync to 
synchronize the differences and that is pretty fast

> Isn't it possible to create the missing tfm files, which ConTeXt uses, 
> from the fonts already present in /usr/TeX/texmf/fonts?
> 
> What if I install TeXLive 2004?

that should work ok; there is a special context tree on the dvd as well, with 
all documentation and such so that saves you some bandwidth

Hans

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Re: Fonts in ConTeXt!

[G.C.H.M. Verhaag]

Hans Hagen wrote

>>
>> What if I install TeXLive 2004?
>
>
> that should work ok; there is a special context tree on the dvd as 
> well, with all documentation and such so that saves you some bandwidth
>
>
>
Okay, I've removed my old TeX and installed TeXLive 2004 from CD. Your 
test program works fine with the palatino font.

However when I try bookman the following error appears in the log file:

(/usr/TeX/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-pre.tex)
bodyfont       : unknown variant bookman

The same happens with for example the charter font! Can this be caused 
by the fact that I didn't install the Extra Fonts collection from 
TeXLive 2004?

Regards,
    Geert

-- 
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St. Jorisstraat 29
5954 AN Beesel
NETHERLANDS

Tel.: (+31)-774742493, E-mail: verhaaggchm@ision.nl

Re: Fonts in ConTeXt!

[Hans Hagen]

G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:

> The same happens with for example the charter font! Can this be caused 
> by the fact that I didn't install the Extra Fonts collection from 
> TeXLive 2004?

see type-exa.tex for how palatino is defined; bookman is a stand alone font (no 
math and such), so i didn't provide a preset for that,

\definetypeface[bookman][rm][serif][bookman][default][encoding=\defaultencoding]

\setupbodyfont[bookman]

is the kind of code you're looking for, so, you can combine all kind of fonts in 
  a typeface collection.

Hans


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Re: Fonts in ConTeXt!

[G.C.H.M. Verhaag]

  Hans, Vit and VnPenguin,

Thanks for helping me with getting the Palatino font work!

Regards,
    Geert

-- 
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St. Jorisstraat 29
5954 AN Beesel
NETHERLANDS

Tel.: (+31)-774742493, E-mail: verhaaggchm@ision.nl