From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/18209 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vit Zyka Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: alpha release / latin modern Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:54:41 +0100 Message-ID: <420A7891.5050701@seznam.cz> References: <4208A2CC.5090505@seznam.cz> <20050208114403.13642@mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk> <4208AF67.7030609@wxs.nl> <4208DBDA.3050300@seznam.cz> <420A47F0.5090702@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107982458 9772 80.91.229.2 (9 Feb 2005 20:54:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:54:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Feb 09 21:54:18 2005 Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cyyqh-0004hy-Tn for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:54:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF4A12780; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:55:47 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21490-04; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:55:47 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3BD12775; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:54:02 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E3712775 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:54:01 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21490-03 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:54:00 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp.seznam.cz (smtp.seznam.cz [212.80.76.43]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id B28901276C for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:54:00 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (qmail 7482 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2005 20:53:57 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (vit.zyka@82.142.74.35) by smtp.seznam.cz with SMTP; 9 Feb 2005 20:53:57 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <420A47F0.5090702@wxs.nl> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0505-0, 31.01.2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-MailScanner-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-MailScanner-To: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:18209 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:18209 Hans Hagen wrote: > Vit Zyka wrote: > >> Font design is very subjective game, I know. There is my comment: I have asked Czech TeX users for their opinion yesterday. Now I want to wait a several days for their collecting. After that I will summarize the discussion results and will sent it here and to Jacko. >> 1) LM has very ugly caron >> 2) caron is too high at both capitals and minuscules > > Isn't that a matter of taste? Think of mixed language usage (not that > strange in todays europe), then one wants consistency and this was one > of the objectives of the latin modern fonts. > >> 3) ring is lifeless/faint > > indeed, let's see what Jacko thinks of it > >> 4) acute is OK; I would prefer vertical position somewhere inbetween >> LM an CS, but CS are consistent with tight accents (acute and caron) > > > this is a disputed area, afaik latin modern is following the > typographical correct rules (font/language experts were involved in that) > >> 5) \v t: caron is too low (does not look as neither ligature >> connection nor separate accent > > > hm, isn't that a matter if viewing and printer resolution? > > There has been some discussion with czech users in the previous lm dev > stage, so ... do you know of any usage of lm in czech? > > Hans