From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/18220 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vit Zyka Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: iso latin 2 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:52:21 +0100 Message-ID: <420AA235.7060200@seznam.cz> References: <420A4861.4020706@wxs.nl> <420A81D5.702@seznam.cz> <420A8CDF.1000406@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107993014 6762 80.91.229.2 (9 Feb 2005 23:50:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:50:14 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Feb 10 00:50:14 2005 Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cz1ay-00083w-Se for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:50:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D45A127C6; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:51:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24243-07; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:51:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F858127A6; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:51:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEBF127A6 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:51:41 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24122-04 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:51:40 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp.seznam.cz (smtp.seznam.cz [212.80.76.43]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 97FE712775 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:51:40 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (qmail 5952 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2005 23:51:36 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (vit.zyka@82.142.74.35) by smtp.seznam.cz with SMTP; 9 Feb 2005 23:51:36 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <420A8CDF.1000406@wxs.nl> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0505-0, 31.01.2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-MailScanner-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-MailScanner-To: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:18220 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:18220 Hans Hagen wrote: > Vit Zyka wrote: > >> Hans Hagen wrote: >> >>> I wonder, >>> >>> \definecharacter Aring {\ilencodedrA} >>> >>> \definecharacter Lstroke {\ilencodedL} >>> \definecharacter lstroke {\ilencodedl} >>> >>> where do these come from? is that because csr does not provide those >>> glyphs? >> >> il2 encoding is not ISO-8859-2 but encoding of CS fonts (csr...). It >> was derived from ISOO-8859-2 but: >> - first 128 glyphs are the same as cmr... >> - upper part is added according to ISO-8859-2 >> (http://nl.ijs.si/gnusl/cee/charset.html) but only chars needed for >> Czech/Slovak lang. >> >> Neither Aring is present in CSfont, nor Lstroke, nor lstroke. >> >>> (which makes il2 like aer (almoet ec) something almost il2 -) > > I wonder, why don't you use the more recent qx encoding; > > if il2 is only used for csr, then we can best extend il2 encoding since > all the chars missing in csr are present in latin modern; Problem is that il2 and ISO-8859-2 differs in next chars presented in il2: dec ISO CS 184 cedilla \`a 254 tcedilla dblleftquote 255 dot above dblrightquote ... After some quotes (e.g. Adams' > "The Polish prefer it more upright. The Czechs prefer it more flat." ) I feel stronger and stronger that csr should coexist with lm for future. Perhaps like a option (not present in minimal distr?), but with full functionality if extra loaded. So I would like il2 will be preserved as it is and new coding according to lm (ISO-8859-2 ?) would be introduce (enco-l2 ?). Vit