server down ?

server down ?

[Steffen Wolfrum]

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Hi Hans,

I am trying to download

http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip

but there is no connection to pragma-ade.com or .nl at all.

Are you working on the server, when is it up again?


BTW:
Is there already a more recent (after Dec.2004) version of mswincontext.zip ?



Thanks,

Steffen

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Re: server down ?

[Taco Hoekwater]

Looks like the http server is down (again?).  Try this:

   http://context.aanhet.net/context/install/mswincontext.zip

(same version, dec 6, fetched 2 minutes ago using rsync)

Greetings, Taco

Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> Hi Hans,
> 
> I am trying to download
> 
> http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip
> 
> but there is no connection to pragma-ade.com or .nl at all.
> 
> Are you working on the server, when is it up again?

Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Jack M. Lyon]

Dear ConTeXt experts:

I'm trying to learn to use ConTeXt for book publishing (wonderful program!)
but can't seem to find answers to a couple of questions:

1. How can I turn *off* protection against widows? (Last line of paragraph
at top of page.)

2. How can I turn on \flushbottom (LaTeX command) to space lines *inside*
paragraphs but not *between* paragraphs?

3. How can I tell ConTeXt not to break fewer than three characters at the
end of a word? (I don't want two-letter breaks like "hard-ly")

Thanks very much for your help.

Best wishes,
Jack M. Lyon
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Re: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Peter Münster]

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Jack M. Lyon wrote:

> 2. How can I turn on \flushbottom (LaTeX command) to space lines *inside*
> paragraphs but not *between* paragraphs?

Not a very beautiful page, but I hope it helps:
http://contextgarden.net/Flush_bottom
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Re: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Adam Lindsay]

Jack M. Lyon said this at Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:35:05 -0700:

>I'm trying to learn to use ConTeXt for book publishing (wonderful program!)
>but can't seem to find answers to a couple of questions:
>
>1. How can I turn *off* protection against widows? (Last line of paragraph
>at top of page.)

This is discussed in greater detail in the new (in-progress) style
manual, normally available at:
<http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/style.pdf>
But also mirrored (pragma server down) at:
<http://context.aanhet.net/general/manuals/style.pdf>

I think what you want is:
\widowpenalty 0

>2. How can I turn on \flushbottom (LaTeX command) to space lines *inside*
>paragraphs but not *between* paragraphs?

I'm not sure. Peter Münster's email helped me understand the problem a
little more, but I think he misinterpreted your lines vs paragraphs
directive. Digging around in the source code (sigh), I do notice a
parameter that might help. Try these two in combination:

\setupinterlinespace[stretch=0.08]  % experimentation needed!
\setuptolerance[vertical,verystrict]

I'm not an expert in this area, so don't take this as the final word!
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Re: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Peter Münster]

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Adam Lindsay wrote:

> >2. How can I turn on \flushbottom (LaTeX command) to space lines *inside*
> >paragraphs but not *between* paragraphs?
> 
> I'm not sure. Peter Münster's email helped me understand the problem a
> little more, but I think he misinterpreted your lines vs paragraphs
> directive.

Yes indeed. I thought of the LaTeX command only...

> \setupinterlinespace[stretch=0.08]  % experimentation needed!

I'm also very interested in these kinds of problems (and solutions ;).
It seems to me, that with this parameter, interline-spaces can get smaller
but not bigger.
(I've just tried the example on http://contextgarden.net/Flush_bottom)
Could you explain this parameter a bit further?

> \setuptolerance[vertical,verystrict]

I know the meaning of strict and tolerant in horizontal context, but what
does it mean in vertical context? I didn't see any difference between
\setuptolerance[vertical,verystrict] and
\setuptolerance[vertical,verytolerant]

Thanks in advance for further comments! We can put it on the wiki then.
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Re: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Adam Lindsay]

Peter Münster said this at Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:08:27 +0100:

>> \setupinterlinespace[stretch=0.08]  % experimentation needed!
>
>I'm also very interested in these kinds of problems (and solutions ;).

I'm curious because it's the flip side of the grid typesetting I was
learning about earlier this week. I have no special insights, here...

>It seems to me, that with this parameter, interline-spaces can get smaller
>but not bigger.

I think it allows it to become bigger by the same factor.

>(I've just tried the example on http://contextgarden.net/Flush_bottom)
>Could you explain this parameter a bit further?

um, no? :)
I just stumbled across it in core-spa, and empirically determined that it
would give a bit of variability to the interline spacing, which is what
the original poster asked for.

I *think* it's a multiple of \openlineheight by which the interline space
can vary +/-. So the factor cited above seems like it can cause a
variance of up to 16% in line spacing. (And I can imagine Hans is biting
his tongue on this because this big variance can cause a huge difference
in the colour of the text block. :)

>> \setuptolerance[vertical,verystrict]
>
>I know the meaning of strict and tolerant in horizontal context, but what
>does it mean in vertical context? I didn't see any difference between
>\setuptolerance[vertical,verystrict] and
>\setuptolerance[vertical,verytolerant]

I've always been hazy on the distinction myself.

>Thanks in advance for further comments! We can put it on the wiki then.

Anyway, addressing the original poster's requirements, allowing *no*
stretch in the inter-paragraph spacing (whitespace) makes it hard for the
interline space to handle the whole job of reaching the text block on its
own. I'd suggest looking at the definition of \defineblank and how small/
medium/big are defined in order to get a better balance. In the following
example (modified from the wiki), the spacing adjustment is a lot less
strained if I do \setupwhitespace[big] instead of 12pt.


\widowpenalty 0
\setupinterlinespace[stretch=0.09]
\setuptolerance[vertical,verystrict,stretch]
\setupwhitespace[12pt]

\starttext
\showframe
\section{Section}
\input ward \par\input knuth \par\input zapf
\section{Section}
\input tufte \par\input zapf \par\input tufte \input knuth
\section{Section}
\input hawking \par\input bryson \par\input tufte
\section{Section}
\input knuth \input knuth \par\input knuth \input ward
\stoptext

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RE: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Jack M. Lyon]

Adam:

One other question, if you don't mind. You wrote:

> I'm curious because it's the flip side of the grid typesetting I was
> learning about earlier this week.

I'd be grateful if you could tell me what you learned about this.

Thanks again.

Best wishes,
Jack M. Lyon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl 
> [mailto:ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Adam Lindsay
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 4:26 PM
> To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks
> 
> 
> Peter Münster said this at Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:08:27 +0100:
> 
> >> \setupinterlinespace[stretch=0.08]  % experimentation needed!
> >
> >I'm also very interested in these kinds of problems (and 
> solutions ;).
> 
> I'm curious because it's the flip side of the grid typesetting I was
> learning about earlier this week. I have no special insights, here...
> 
> >It seems to me, that with this parameter, interline-spaces 
> can get smaller
> >but not bigger.
> 
> I think it allows it to become bigger by the same factor.
> 
> >(I've just tried the example on 
> http://contextgarden.net/Flush_bottom)
> >Could you explain this parameter a bit further?
> 
> um, no? :)
> I just stumbled across it in core-spa, and empirically 
> determined that it
> would give a bit of variability to the interline spacing, 
> which is what
> the original poster asked for.
> 
> I *think* it's a multiple of \openlineheight by which the 
> interline space
> can vary +/-. So the factor cited above seems like it can cause a
> variance of up to 16% in line spacing. (And I can imagine 
> Hans is biting
> his tongue on this because this big variance can cause a huge 
> difference
> in the colour of the text block. :)
> 
> >> \setuptolerance[vertical,verystrict]
> >
> >I know the meaning of strict and tolerant in horizontal 
> context, but what
> >does it mean in vertical context? I didn't see any difference between
> >\setuptolerance[vertical,verystrict] and
> >\setuptolerance[vertical,verytolerant]
> 
> I've always been hazy on the distinction myself.
> 
> >Thanks in advance for further comments! We can put it on the 
> wiki then.
> 
> Anyway, addressing the original poster's requirements, allowing *no*
> stretch in the inter-paragraph spacing (whitespace) makes it 
> hard for the
> interline space to handle the whole job of reaching the text 
> block on its
> own. I'd suggest looking at the definition of \defineblank 
> and how small/
> medium/big are defined in order to get a better balance. In 
> the following
> example (modified from the wiki), the spacing adjustment is a lot less
> strained if I do \setupwhitespace[big] instead of 12pt.
> 
> 
> \widowpenalty 0
> \setupinterlinespace[stretch=0.09]
> \setuptolerance[vertical,verystrict,stretch]
> \setupwhitespace[12pt]
> 
> \starttext
> \showframe
> \section{Section}
> \input ward \par\input knuth \par\input zapf
> \section{Section}
> \input tufte \par\input zapf \par\input tufte \input knuth
> \section{Section}
> \input hawking \par\input bryson \par\input tufte
> \section{Section}
> \input knuth \input knuth \par\input knuth \input ward
> \stoptext
> 
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Re: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Peter Münster]

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Adam Lindsay wrote:

> I *think* it's a multiple of \openlineheight by which the interline space
> can vary +/-. So the factor cited above seems like it can cause a
> variance of up to 16% in line spacing. (And I can imagine Hans is biting
> his tongue on this because this big variance can cause a huge difference
> in the colour of the text block. :)

Yes, that's the reason why I prefer the LaTeX version of \flushbottom... ;-)
Peter

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Re: server down ?

[h h extern]

Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

> http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip
> 
> but there is no connection to pragma-ade.com or .nl at all.

hm, a spontaneuous reboot etc etc; i need to fix a cpu fan i guess; normally you 
can use

   www.pragma-pod.com

which has the same stuff or taco's mirror at:

   tex.aanhet.net

> Are you working on the server, when is it up again?

actually, the heating up comes from rsyncing -)

> Is there already a more recent (after Dec.2004) version of 
> mswincontext.zip ?

not yet

Hans

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RE: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Jack M. Lyon]

I figured out how to specify a minimum number of letters on a word break
(hyphenation). For example, I don't want ConTeXt to break "hard-ly." The
solution is in the manual; I just couldn't find it for a while. Here it is:

\installlanguage[en][lefthyphenmin=3,righthyphenmin=3]
\setuplanguage[en]

Of course, you'll need to change the language to whatever you need.

Best wishes,
Jack M. Lyon
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Re: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Adam Lindsay]

Jack M. Lyon said this at Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:43:10 -0700:

>> I'm curious because it's the flip side of the grid typesetting I was
>> learning about earlier this week.
>
>I'd be grateful if you could tell me what you learned about this.

Nothing ground-breaking. Mostly that it's set up with: 

  \setuplayout[lines=35,grid=yes]

And that XeTeX (Mac-enhanced engine) is very responsive to tweaking of
the height and depth parameters. (I should post those numbers I derived
on the wiki sometime...)

adam
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Re: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Hans Hagen]

Jack M. Lyon wrote:
> I figured out how to specify a minimum number of letters on a word break
> (hyphenation). For example, I don't want ConTeXt to break "hard-ly." The
> solution is in the manual; I just couldn't find it for a while. Here it is:
> 
> \installlanguage[en][lefthyphenmin=3,righthyphenmin=3]
> \setuplanguage[en]
> 
> Of course, you'll need to change the language to whatever you need.

it's normally best to use \setuplanguage to change such settings after a 
language has been installed

Hans


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Re: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Hans Hagen]

Peter Münster wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Adam Lindsay wrote:
> 
> 
>>I *think* it's a multiple of \openlineheight by which the interline space
>>can vary +/-. So the factor cited above seems like it can cause a
>>variance of up to 16% in line spacing. (And I can imagine Hans is biting
>>his tongue on this because this big variance can cause a huge difference
>>in the colour of the text block. :)
> 
> 
> Yes, that's the reason why I prefer the LaTeX version of \flushbottom... ;-)

it's a kind of interplaye between:

\setuplayout[height=10cm] \setuptolerance[vertical,verytolerant]

\setupalign[line]
% \setupalign[bottom]
% \setupalign[normal]

\showframe \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte \endgraf}

it's on my agenda to clean this up (it's slightly complicated by the fact that
it interferes with things like footnotes, backgrounds crossuing pages and such, 
  so i have to sit a day or more on it)

Hans


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Re: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Peter Münster]

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:

> \setupalign[line]

It seems, that this command does just the same as the LaTeX \flushbottom,
very fine, thank you!

> % \setupalign[bottom]

What's the meaning of this one?
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Re: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Hans Hagen]

Peter Münster wrote:

>>% \setupalign[bottom]

has to do with depth but does not always work

Hans

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Re: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Adam Lindsay]

Hans Hagen said this at Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:45:15 +0100:

>\setuplayout[height=10cm] \setuptolerance[vertical,verytolerant]
>
>\setupalign[line]

Okay, that's the command I *should* have found, right? :) Sigh, and it's
right there in the manual.
What I found today was \alignbottom (and its relatives), which I now
presume is ancient and deprecated?

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RE: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Jack M. Lyon]

With lots of help from Adam and some tinkering on my own, here's what seems
to be working best for me:

\setupinterlinespace[stretch=0.08]
\setuptolerance[vertical,stretch]
\setupalign[height]

This produces a flush bottom with very even interline and interparagraph
spacing, all vertically justified. Nice!

I'm very grateful for the help from one and all.

Best wishes,
Jack M. Lyon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl 
> [mailto:ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Adam Lindsay
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 12:15 PM
> To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks
> 
> 
> Hans Hagen said this at Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:45:15 +0100:
> 
> >\setuplayout[height=10cm] \setuptolerance[vertical,verytolerant]
> >
> >\setupalign[line]
> 
> Okay, that's the command I *should* have found, right? :) 
> Sigh, and it's
> right there in the manual.
> What I found today was \alignbottom (and its relatives), which I now
> presume is ancient and deprecated?
> 
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Hyphenation exception list

[Jack M. Lyon]

Dear ConTeXt experts:

I'm trying to create an external list of hyphenation exceptions.

I believe this command is what I need:

\hyphenation{ex-ample}

But I would like to make a whole list of these:

\hyphenation{ex-ample}
\hyphenation{disc-iple}
\hyphenation{woman}

And so on.

Then, I'd like to keep these in a separate file that I can call from any
ConTeXt document, something like this:

\input{hyphenlist}

When I try this, however (for a file named hyphenlist.text), I get this
error message:

! I can't find file `{hyph}'.
l.88 \input{hyph}
                 
Please type another input file name: Terminating on signal SIGBREAK(21)
>Exit code: -1073741510

Is there a way to implement such a hyphenation list?

Thanks so much for your help.

Best wishes,
Jack M. Lyon
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RE: Hyphenation exception list

[Jack M. Lyon]

Sorry, the name of my file, is hyphen.tex, not hyphen.text. Slip of the
finger. :)

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Jack M. Lyon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl 
> [mailto:ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Jack M. Lyon
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:08 PM
> To: 'mailing list for ConTeXt users'
> Subject: [NTG-context] Hyphenation exception list
> 
> 
> Dear ConTeXt experts:
> 
> I'm trying to create an external list of hyphenation exceptions.
> 
> I believe this command is what I need:
> 
> \hyphenation{ex-ample}
> 
> But I would like to make a whole list of these:
> 
> \hyphenation{ex-ample}
> \hyphenation{disc-iple}
> \hyphenation{woman}
> 
> And so on.
> 
> Then, I'd like to keep these in a separate file that I can 
> call from any
> ConTeXt document, something like this:
> 
> \input{hyphenlist}
> 
> When I try this, however (for a file named hyphenlist.text), 
> I get this
> error message:
> 
> ! I can't find file `{hyph}'.
> l.88 \input{hyph}
>                  
> Please type another input file name: Terminating on signal 
> SIGBREAK(21)
> >Exit code: -1073741510
> 
> Is there a way to implement such a hyphenation list?
> 
> Thanks so much for your help.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Jack M. Lyon
> ___________________________________________________
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RE: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Jack M. Lyon]

I take it back. Here's what really works well:

\setupinterlinespace[stretch=0.08]
\setuptolerance[vertical,stretch]
\setupalign[line]

Thanks again.

Best wishes,
Jack M. Lyon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl 
> [mailto:ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Jack M. Lyon
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 1:18 PM
> To: 'mailing list for ConTeXt users'
> Subject: RE: [NTG-context] Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks
> 
> 
> With lots of help from Adam and some tinkering on my own, 
> here's what seems
> to be working best for me:
> 
> \setupinterlinespace[stretch=0.08]
> \setuptolerance[vertical,stretch]
> \setupalign[height]
> 
> This produces a flush bottom with very even interline and 
> interparagraph
> spacing, all vertically justified. Nice!
> 
> I'm very grateful for the help from one and all.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Jack M. Lyon
> ___________________________________________________
> 
> The EDITORIUM
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>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl 
> > [mailto:ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Adam Lindsay
> > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 12:15 PM
> > To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
> > Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks
> > 
> > 
> > Hans Hagen said this at Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:45:15 +0100:
> > 
> > >\setuplayout[height=10cm] \setuptolerance[vertical,verytolerant]
> > >
> > >\setupalign[line]
> > 
> > Okay, that's the command I *should* have found, right? :) 
> > Sigh, and it's
> > right there in the manual.
> > What I found today was \alignbottom (and its relatives), which I now
> > presume is ancient and deprecated?
> > 
> > -- 
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Re: Hyphenation exception list

[Vit Zyka]

Jack M. Lyon wrote:
> Dear ConTeXt experts:
> 
> I'm trying to create an external list of hyphenation exceptions.
> 
> I believe this command is what I need:
> 
> \hyphenation{ex-ample}
> 
> But I would like to make a whole list of these:
> 
> \hyphenation{ex-ample}
> \hyphenation{disc-iple}
> \hyphenation{woman}

You can save some bytes:

\hyphenation{ex-ample disc-iple woman}

> Then, I'd like to keep these in a separate file that I can call from any
> ConTeXt document, something like this:
> 
> \input{hyphenlist}
> 
> When I try this, however (for a file named hyphenlist.text), I get this
> error message:
> 
> ! I can't find file `{hyph}'.
> l.88 \input{hyph}

 > Sorry, the name of my file, is hyphen.tex, not hyphen.text. Slip of

Looks like very file-name mishmash.

hyphenlist.tex or hyphenlist.text or hyphen.tex or hyphen.text ???

BTW, hyphen.tex is not suitable file-name, since one might already be in 
the distribution. If our file-name is hyphenlist.tex
(try `kpsewhich hyphenlist.tex`) then both variants should work
\input hyphenlist
\input hyphenlist.tex

vit

Re: Hyphenation exception list

[Taco Hoekwater]

Vit Zyka wrote:
 > ... should work
> \input hyphenlist
> \input hyphenlist.tex

And, with that filename, the next two variants will not work:

  \input{hyphenlist}
  \input{hyphenlist}.tex


That is, unless you went through the trouble of
creating a file with braces in the name ;-)

Greetings, Taco

RE: Hyphenation exception list

[Jack M. Lyon]

Ah, but now I run into another problem. ConTeXt will only accept about
twenty-two words in a list. I need to include about 100. Even if I use
multiple lists, it can't handle more words. Does anyone have a solution for
this? Maybe there's another way to set up a hyphenation exception list.

Thanks for your help.

Best wishes,
Jack M. Lyon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl 
> [mailto:ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Taco Hoekwater
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:53 PM
> To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation exception list
> 
> 
> Vit Zyka wrote:
>  > ... should work
> > \input hyphenlist
> > \input hyphenlist.tex
> 
> And, with that filename, the next two variants will not work:
> 
>   \input{hyphenlist}
>   \input{hyphenlist}.tex
> 
> 
> That is, unless you went through the trouble of
> creating a file with braces in the name ;-)
> 
> Greetings, Taco
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Re: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Hans Hagen]

Adam Lindsay wrote:
> Hans Hagen said this at Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:45:15 +0100:
> 
> 
>>\setuplayout[height=10cm] \setuptolerance[vertical,verytolerant]
>>
>>\setupalign[line]
> 
> 
> Okay, that's the command I *should* have found, right? :) Sigh, and it's
> right there in the manual.
> What I found today was \alignbottom (and its relatives), which I now
> presume is ancient and deprecated?

no, the choices expand to one of those; but they are not meant for direct usage

Hans

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Re: Widows, flush bottom, and word breaks

[Hans Hagen]

Jack M. Lyon wrote:
> With lots of help from Adam and some tinkering on my own, here's what seems
> to be working best for me:
> 
> \setupinterlinespace[stretch=0.08]
> \setuptolerance[vertical,stretch]
> \setupalign[height]
> 
> This produces a flush bottom with very even interline and interparagraph
> spacing, all vertically justified. Nice!

so ... add that recepi to the wiki

Hans

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Re: Hyphenation exception list

[Hans Hagen]

Jack M. Lyon wrote:

> Then, I'd like to keep these in a separate file that I can call from any
> ConTeXt document, something like this:
> 
> \input{hyphenlist}

\input hyphenlist

or more robust

\readfile{hyphenlist}
   {\writestatus{myself}{loading went ok}}
   {\writestatus{myself}{i've messed up}}


> When I try this, however (for a file named hyphenlist.text), I get this
> error message:
> 
> ! I can't find file `{hyph}'.

because that's not your filename (the {'s)

Hans

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Re: Hyphenation exception list

[Hans Hagen]

Jack M. Lyon wrote:
> Sorry, the name of my file, is hyphen.tex, not hyphen.text. Slip of the
> finger. :)

bad name, that will replace the main us hyphen file, which nowadays is called 
hyphen.tex (used to be ushyph ushyp1 ushyp2 and whatever)

hans


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Re: Hyphenation exception list

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Vit Zyka wrote:
>  > ... should work
> 
>> \input hyphenlist
>> \input hyphenlist.tex
> 
> 
> And, with that filename, the next two variants will not work:
> 
>  \input{hyphenlist}
>  \input{hyphenlist}.tex
> 
> 
> That is, unless you went through the trouble of
> creating a file with braces in the name ;-)

some time agho on this list someone was doing that -)

so, (unless i spoiled it again),

   \externalfigure[who{wants}such{names}.pdf]

should work

btw, the latest greatest tex binaries accept

\input "olderversionsonwindowsalreadyhadthisfeature"

Hans

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Re: Hyphenation exception list

[Hans Hagen]

Jack M. Lyon wrote:
> Ah, but now I run into another problem. ConTeXt will only accept about
> twenty-two words in a list. I need to include about 100. Even if I use
> multiple lists, it can't handle more words. Does anyone have a solution for
> this? Maybe there's another way to set up a hyphenation exception list.

context? probably tex itself; what happens when you increse the mem settings in 
texmf.cnf?

hans


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Re: server down ?

[h h extern]

VnPenguin wrote:

> It's the time to think about several mirrors around the world ?

before that i need to fix the machine; drive there, open the box, etc  -)

Hans


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Re: server down ?

[VnPenguin]

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:25:08 +0100, Steffen Wolfrum
<context@st.estfiles.de> wrote:
>  
> Hi Hans, 
> 
>  
> I am trying to download 
> 
>  
> http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip 
> 
>  
> but there is no connection to pragma-ade.com or .nl at all. 
> 
>  
> Are you working on the server, when is it up again? 
> 
Me too I can't access to pragma-ade.com :(
It's the time to think about several mirrors around the world ?

Q.