\definelayout question

\definelayout question

[Paul Tremblay]

Thanks Adam for the suggestions on the wiki page.

You point out that I can use \definelayout for odd and even pages.
I assume I can use this command in place of \setuplayout?

I had a problem using \definelayout. I found that I had to use a
\setuplayout before my text, or the first page would not get formatted.
Is the ConTeXt code right below?

Also, is there any way to change the layout for the first page?

\definelayout[first] [....

Thanks

Paul



\part{}

\definelayout[odd][
 topspace=.5in, % the space at the very top of the page
 backspace=3in,  % the space in the gutter 
 header=2in, % the space for headers
 footer=2in, % the space for footers
 leftmargin=1in, % the space for margin notes
 rightmargin=1.5in, % the space for right margin notes
 width=3in, % the width of the body text
 height=7in % the height of the body text
]

\definelayout[even][
 topspace=.5in, % the space at the very top of the page
 backspace=3in,  % the space in the gutter 
 header=2in, % the space for headers
 footer=2in, % the space for footers
 leftmargin=1in, % the space for margin notes
 rightmargin=1.5in, % the space for right margin notes
 width=3in, % the width of the body text
 height=4in % the height of the body text
]

\setuplayout
% the header for the first page of part 1
\definetext[partStart1][header][\vbox{Chapter 1 \vskip5pt Author}]
\setuphead[part][header=partStart1]

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Re: \definelayout question

[Hans Hagen]

Paul Tremblay wrote:
> Thanks Adam for the suggestions on the wiki page.
> 
> You point out that I can use \definelayout for odd and even pages.
> I assume I can use this command in place of \setuplayout?
> 
> I had a problem using \definelayout. I found that I had to use a
> \setuplayout before my text, or the first page would not get formatted.
> Is the ConTeXt code right below?
> 
> Also, is there any way to change the layout for the first page?
> 
> \definelayout[first] [....

\definelayout[1][...]

> \definetext[partStart1][header][\vbox{Chapter 1 \vskip5pt Author}]
> \setuphead[part][header=partStart1]

for consistency i'd go for

\definetext
   [partStart1]
   [header]
   [\vbox{\strut Chapter 1 \vskip.25\bodyfontsize Author}]

scales nicer with changes in font and other specs

Hans


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Re: \definelayout question

[Adam Lindsay]

Paul,

I can't really address the bulk of your question (I consider myself a
beginner in the art of the \layout, and am still working through some of
its invocation options), but I do notice a couple things:

Paul Tremblay said this at Thu, 3 Mar 2005 02:45:01 -0500:

>\definelayout[odd][
> header=2in, % the space for headers
> footer=2in, % the space for footers
> height=7in % the height of the body text
>]

This (nominally, without use of page=high or some such) leaves three
inches for the body text. Unlike the right/left margin, header/footer
space is considered part of the textblock's height. I don't know the
historical reasons for this, but it makes a kind of sense.

>\definelayout[even][
> header=2in, % the space for headers
> footer=2in, % the space for footers
> height=4in % the height of the body text
>]

This, then, leaves zero height for the main body text, which is why I see
only a single line typeset on even pages.

\showframe is your esteemed friend in debugging these matters.
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Re: \definelayout question

[Hans Hagen]

Adam Lindsay wrote:

>>\definelayout[odd][
>>header=2in, % the space for headers
>>footer=2in, % the space for footers
>>height=7in % the height of the body text
>>]
> 
> 
> This (nominally, without use of page=high or some such) leaves three
> inches for the body text. Unlike the right/left margin, header/footer
> space is considered part of the textblock's height. I don't know the
> historical reasons for this, but it makes a kind of sense.

just keep in mind that header and footer lines can be empty, not-present, high, 
etc, so in a sense they are part of the flow

margins are virtual things and their width influence line breaking, backgrounds 
etc, since there can be multiple margins it does not make sense to define 
back-of-page -> text as being the margin, because then we would need other 
variables to set the real ones; backspace (in dutch 'rugwit' is a better name i 
think) is more convenient

Hans
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