Extending into the margin

Extending into the margin

[Duncan Hothersall]

I have a double-sided page layout with mirrored margins. For certain 
displays (tables, etc) I would like to place a box such that it will 
extend into the margin. At the moment, just by making a box the width of 
the textarea + margin, I can get what I want half the time :-) - it 
always extends to the right, and on half of the pages that is what I want!

Of course the trick is the other half. If I explicitly move the boxes 
left, then the right-hand pages stop working properly. And I'm in a 
batch workflow so I can't know in advance what page a box is going to 
land on. So I guess I need a hook into the double-sided margin settings 
somehow?

I haven't managed to find anything that looks relevant in the docs, so 
thanks for any help!

Duncan
dh@capdm.com

Re: Extending into the margin

[Hans Hagen]

Duncan Hothersall wrote:
> I have a double-sided page layout with mirrored margins. For certain 
> displays (tables, etc) I would like to place a box such that it will 
> extend into the margin. At the moment, just by making a box the width of 
> the textarea + margin, I can get what I want half the time :-) - it 
> always extends to the right, and on half of the pages that is what I want!
> 
> Of course the trick is the other half. If I explicitly move the boxes 
> left, then the right-hand pages stop working properly. And I'm in a 
> batch workflow so I can't know in advance what page a box is going to 
> land on. So I guess I need a hook into the double-sided margin settings 
> somehow?
> 
> I haven't managed to find anything that looks relevant in the docs, so 
> thanks for any help!

see the manual "details.pdf"

Hans


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Re: Extending into the margin

[Duncan Hothersall]

I asked about a mechanism to allow tables to extend into the outer
margin, in a double-sided layout. Hans said:

> see the manual "details.pdf"

Thanks - I think I now almost understand how I would do this for 
*floats*, but... my question was (perhaps) simpler - I'm just talking 
about fixed blocks of text in the main flow. In fact, things that must 
not float from where they are called. I can't see how to apply 
details.pdf to something that isn't a float, and it strikes me that the 
answer might be simpler?

So is there any way of saying:

--
Right hand page
--
Some running text at
normal width.

A wider block of text which runs into
the outer margin(in other words,
extends right on right-hand pages and
left on left hand ones).

Back to running text
at normal width.
--

--
Left hand page
--
                  Some running text at
                  normal width.

A wider block of text which runs into
the outer margin(in other words,
extends right on right-hand pages and
left on left hand ones).

                  Back to running text
                  at normal width.
--

Thanks again for any pointers. Will put the solution on the wiki once found!

Duncan
dh@capdm.com