newbie question about fonts

newbie question about fonts

[Ciro A. Soto]

Okay, this business of fonts/files/names/encoding/etc
is really difficult to understand for me.

I have a simple question. How do I list all fonts
I have available to use in ConTeXt in the
machine/system I have? Is there a file
where I can see the names of all these fonts?
And is there a template file or a command
to display the entire set of characters once I know
the
name of fonts?

FYI, I use ConTeXt with Linux Fedora Core 3.
I appreciate your help

Ciro 

Re: newbie question about fonts

[luigi.scarso]

Ciro A. Soto wrote:

>Okay, this business of fonts/files/names/encoding/etc
>is really difficult to understand for me.
>
>  
>
don't worry:FONTS ARE REALLY DIFFICULT.

>And is there a template file or a command
>to display the entire set of characters once I know
>the
>name of fonts?
>
>  
>
I suggest you to look at texfont program and
mfonts.pdf 
mtexfont.pdf 
showfont.pdf
They can be a bit outdate, but still useful.

I have printed My Way -- OpenType in Context by Adam T.Lindsay--
also really useful.

luigi

Re: newbie question about fonts

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Ciro,

> Okay, this business of fonts/files/names/encoding/etc
> is really difficult to understand for me.

welcome to the club ;-)

> I have a simple question. How do I list all fonts
> I have available to use in ConTeXt in the
> machine/system I have? Is there a file
> where I can see the names of all these fonts?

This should be stated in your local guide. If not, complain to the
distribution maintainer.

> And is there a template file or a command
> to display the entire set of characters once I know
> the
> name of fonts?

\showfont[Serif]

and alike.

Patrick
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Re: newbie question about fonts

[Gary]

Ciro A. Soto wrote:

>Okay, this business of fonts/files/names/encoding/etc
>is really difficult to understand for me.
>
You and 95% of all users, so don't feel bad.   I've given up.  I use 
whatever comes out, which I guess is computer modern. 

(I can use "Postscript" Times Roman, but no other "Postscript" font 
works for me.  Which is ok, since I use a lot of math and math comes out 
in cm no matter what font you use.)

Re: Re: newbie question about fonts

[Ciro A. Soto]

Thank you Patrick...

I am my distributor maintainer. 
I installed linux in my pc box less than a year ago,
and I see font files everywhere (X directory fonts,
TeX directory fonts, TrueType, OpenType, Type1,
etc...)
but don't know if they are accessible from Context.
what is the "local guide" you refer to?

Wouldn't it be nice to have a command in Context like:

\listavailablefonts [type1 | truetype | ... | all]

or

\listavailablefamilyfonts [] ...

and another to check whether  a font is properly
installed (that is, whether it has \bf, \it,
\sc, math, etc), like:

\checkfont [fontname]

Luigi, thank you. I've read the outdated documents
you suggested, but still ...

Ciro





--- Patrick Gundlach <patrick@gundla.ch> wrote:
> Hello Ciro,
> 
> > Okay, this business of
> fonts/files/names/encoding/etc
> > is really difficult to understand for me.
> 
> welcome to the club ;-)
> 
> > I have a simple question. How do I list all fonts
> > I have available to use in ConTeXt in the
> > machine/system I have? Is there a file
> > where I can see the names of all these fonts?
> 
> This should be stated in your local guide. If not,
> complain to the
> distribution maintainer.
> 
> > And is there a template file or a command
> > to display the entire set of characters once I
> know
> > the
> > name of fonts?
> 
> \showfont[Serif]
> 
> and alike.
> 
> Patrick
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Re: newbie question about fonts

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Ciro,

> I am my distributor maintainer. 

But you got your distribution from some source?

> what is the "local guide" you refer to?

This should come with your TeX system (Linux system, downloaded TeX
system, whatever) that tells you about things that you need to know
about your TeX system. Including the available fonts. Since I don't
know what your TeX system is, I can't tell you if you have such a
local guide. If it is not on your system, you should complain to the
person that gave you the TeX.


> Wouldn't it be nice to have a command in Context like:

> \listavailablefonts [type1 | truetype | ... | all]

Then please define what a font is. But apart from that, it is not
possible from within TeX.

Patrick
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Re: Re: newbie question about fonts

[Ciro A. Soto]

Thank you Patrick. I'm still looking for


--- Patrick Gundlach <patrick@gundla.ch> wrote:
> Hello Ciro,
> 
> > I am my distributor maintainer. 
> 
> But you got your distribution from some source?

I downloaded the CD iso image from a website
and installed Fedora Core 3.

> 
> > what is the "local guide" you refer to?
> 
> This should come with your TeX system (Linux system,
> downloaded TeX
> system, whatever) that tells you about things that
> you need to know
> about your TeX system. Including the available
> fonts. Since I don't
> know what your TeX system is, I can't tell you if
> you have such a
> local guide. If it is not on your system, you should
> complain to the
> person that gave you the TeX.

Similarly, I downloaded texlive2004 CD from the
tug.org, and installed it according to the
instructions
in the CD. What is the name of the 'local guide' file?

Re: newbie question about fonts

[Patrick Gundlach]

[...]

> I downloaded the CD iso image from a website
> and installed Fedora Core 3.

Then you should ask fedora about the local guide. They know where
they've put it.


[...]

> Similarly, I downloaded texlive2004 CD from the
> tug.org, and installed it according to the
> instructions
> in the CD. What is the name of the 'local guide' file?

I have one in texlive/2004/texmf-doc/doc/english/texlive-en/live.html
and texlive/2004/texmf-doc/doc/english/texlive-en/live.pdf.

Patrick

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Newbie, question about fonts

[Florian Rudt]

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Dear List,

at first: thanks a lot for TeX and ConTeXt.

I am really new to CoTeXt, TeX and LaTex, sorry. I come from the other side, from the DTP-side (the dark side). I have been working for more than 20 years in the graphics and prepess business with the mouse (only at the beginning some weeks playing with Linotype Series 300 and Linosetting and one day Berthold's ProfiPage).

I managed to redo a simple old job with context: the book block of a novel, incl. front matter and fonts from my own library. Even the first results were amazingly beautiful.

Now I want to redesign an academic journal (the International Journal of Conflict and Violence, www.ijcv.org) that I currently set with tango (something like Scribus or InDesign). I have got most of my font working with ConTeXt, but this time I failed. I can not get the ITC Franklin Gothic working.

My installation is ConTeXt standalone on linux mint. I installed the otf-fonts by copying them into the directory ~/context/tex/texmf-fonts/opentype/FranklinGothic/ . Then I run "mtxrun --generate" in the terminal.

"mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=*franklin*" gives:

itcfranklingothicstd             itcfranklingothicstddmcp     ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCp.otf
itcfranklingothicstdbkcp         itcfranklingothicstdbkcp     ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCp.otf
itcfranklingothicstdbkcpit       itcfranklingothicstdbkcpit   ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCpIt.otf
itcfranklingothicstdbold         itcfranklingothicstddmcp     ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCp.otf
itcfranklingothicstdbolditalic   itcfranklingothicstddmcpit   ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCpIt.otf
itcfranklingothicstddemi         itcfranklingothicstddmcp     ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCp.otf
itcfranklingothicstddmcp         itcfranklingothicstddmcp     ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCp.otf
itcfranklingothicstddmcpit       itcfranklingothicstddmcpit   ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCpIt.otf
itcfranklingothicstditalic       itcfranklingothicstdbkcpit   ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCpIt.otf
itcfranklingothicstdnormal       itcfranklingothicstdbkcpit   ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCpIt.otf
itcfranklingothicstdregular      itcfranklingothicstdbkcp     ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCp.otf

I thought that all font styles are available (but I only need Book Compressed, Book Compressed Italic, Demi Compressed, and Demi Compressed Italic).

So, this is my not working example:

%fonts for ijcv
\setupbodyfontenvironment[default][em=italic]
%
\definefontfamily [ijcv-fonts] [serif] [Minion Pro]
\definefontfamily [ijcv-fonts] [sans] [itcfranklingothicstd]
%
\definefontfeature [default] [default] [onum=yes]
%
\setupbodyfont[ijcv-fonts, 10.25pt]
\setupinterlinespace[4.75mm]
%
\starttext
Minion Pro 1234567890

\ss{ITC Franklin Gothic Book Compressed}
\stoptext

The problem is the fontname: [itcfranklingothicstd] doesn't work and I tried [ITC Franklin Gothic Std] and a lot of other spellings. I succeded with a lot of other fonts with this approach.

What could I have done wrong?

Thanks in advance

Florian

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Re: Newbie, question about fonts

[Thad Heltemes]

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Try this:

\definefontfamily[ijcv-fonts][sans][ITCFranklinGothicStd][tf=file:ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCp.otf,
it=file:ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCpIt.otf,
bf=file:ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCp.otf,
bi=file: ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCpIt.otf]

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Florian Rudt <frudt@mac.com> wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> at first: thanks a lot for TeX and ConTeXt.
>
> I am really new to CoTeXt, TeX and LaTex, sorry. I come from the other
> side, from the DTP-side (the dark side). I have been working for more than
> 20 years in the graphics and prepess business with the mouse (only at the
> beginning some weeks playing with Linotype Series 300 and Linosetting and
> one day Berthold's ProfiPage).
>
> I managed to redo a simple old job with context: the book block of a
> novel, incl. front matter and fonts from my own library. Even the first
> results were amazingly beautiful.
>
> Now I want to redesign an academic journal (the International Journal of
> Conflict and Violence, www.ijcv.org) that I currently set with tango
> (something like Scribus or InDesign). I have got most of my font working
> with ConTeXt, but this time I failed. I can not get the ITC Franklin Gothic
> working.
>
> My installation is ConTeXt standalone on linux mint. I installed the
> otf-fonts by copying them into the directory
> ~/context/tex/texmf-fonts/opentype/FranklinGothic/ . Then I run "mtxrun
> --generate" in the terminal.
>
> "mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=*franklin*" gives:
>
> itcfranklingothicstd             itcfranklingothicstddmcp
>  ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCp.otf
> itcfranklingothicstdbkcp         itcfranklingothicstdbkcp
>  ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCp.otf
> itcfranklingothicstdbkcpit       itcfranklingothicstdbkcpit
>  ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCpIt.otf
> itcfranklingothicstdbold         itcfranklingothicstddmcp
>  ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCp.otf
> itcfranklingothicstdbolditalic   itcfranklingothicstddmcpit
>  ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCpIt.otf
> itcfranklingothicstddemi         itcfranklingothicstddmcp
>  ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCp.otf
> itcfranklingothicstddmcp         itcfranklingothicstddmcp
>  ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCp.otf
> itcfranklingothicstddmcpit       itcfranklingothicstddmcpit
>  ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCpIt.otf
> itcfranklingothicstditalic       itcfranklingothicstdbkcpit
>  ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCpIt.otf
> itcfranklingothicstdnormal       itcfranklingothicstdbkcpit
>  ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCpIt.otf
> itcfranklingothicstdregular      itcfranklingothicstdbkcp
>  ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCp.otf
>
> I thought that all font styles are available (but I only need Book
> Compressed, Book Compressed Italic, Demi Compressed, and Demi Compressed
> Italic).
>
> So, this is my not working example:
>
> %fonts for ijcv
> \setupbodyfontenvironment[default][em=italic]
> %
> \definefontfamily [ijcv-fonts] [serif] [Minion Pro]
> \definefontfamily [ijcv-fonts] [sans] [itcfranklingothicstd]
> %
> \definefontfeature [default] [default] [onum=yes]
> %
> \setupbodyfont[ijcv-fonts, 10.25pt]
> \setupinterlinespace[4.75mm]
> %
> \starttext
> Minion Pro 1234567890
>
> \ss{ITC Franklin Gothic Book Compressed}
> \stoptext
>
> The problem is the fontname: [itcfranklingothicstd] doesn't work and I
> tried [ITC Franklin Gothic Std] and a lot of other spellings. I succeded
> with a lot of other fonts with this approach.
>
> What could I have done wrong?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Florian
>
>
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Re: Newbie, question about fonts

[Florian Rudt]

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Works :-)

Thanks a lot, Thad.

Best regards,

Florian


Am 19.06.2015 um 21:33 schrieb Thad Heltemes <theltemes@gmail.com>:

> Try this:
> 
> \definefontfamily[ijcv-fonts][sans][ITCFranklinGothicStd][tf=file:ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCp.otf, it=file:ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCpIt.otf, bf=file:ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCp.otf, bi=file: ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCpIt.otf]
> 
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Florian Rudt <frudt@mac.com> wrote:
> Dear List,
> 
> at first: thanks a lot for TeX and ConTeXt.
> 
> I am really new to CoTeXt, TeX and LaTex, sorry. I come from the other side, from the DTP-side (the dark side). I have been working for more than 20 years in the graphics and prepess business with the mouse (only at the beginning some weeks playing with Linotype Series 300 and Linosetting and one day Berthold's ProfiPage).
> 
> I managed to redo a simple old job with context: the book block of a novel, incl. front matter and fonts from my own library. Even the first results were amazingly beautiful.
> 
> Now I want to redesign an academic journal (the International Journal of Conflict and Violence, www.ijcv.org) that I currently set with tango (something like Scribus or InDesign). I have got most of my font working with ConTeXt, but this time I failed. I can not get the ITC Franklin Gothic working.
> 
> My installation is ConTeXt standalone on linux mint. I installed the otf-fonts by copying them into the directory ~/context/tex/texmf-fonts/opentype/FranklinGothic/ . Then I run "mtxrun --generate" in the terminal.
> 
> "mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=*franklin*" gives:
> 
> itcfranklingothicstd             itcfranklingothicstddmcp     ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCp.otf
> itcfranklingothicstdbkcp         itcfranklingothicstdbkcp     ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCp.otf
> itcfranklingothicstdbkcpit       itcfranklingothicstdbkcpit   ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCpIt.otf
> itcfranklingothicstdbold         itcfranklingothicstddmcp     ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCp.otf
> itcfranklingothicstdbolditalic   itcfranklingothicstddmcpit   ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCpIt.otf
> itcfranklingothicstddemi         itcfranklingothicstddmcp     ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCp.otf
> itcfranklingothicstddmcp         itcfranklingothicstddmcp     ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCp.otf
> itcfranklingothicstddmcpit       itcfranklingothicstddmcpit   ITCFranklinGothicStd-DmCpIt.otf
> itcfranklingothicstditalic       itcfranklingothicstdbkcpit   ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCpIt.otf
> itcfranklingothicstdnormal       itcfranklingothicstdbkcpit   ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCpIt.otf
> itcfranklingothicstdregular      itcfranklingothicstdbkcp     ITCFranklinGothicStd-BkCp.otf
> 
> I thought that all font styles are available (but I only need Book Compressed, Book Compressed Italic, Demi Compressed, and Demi Compressed Italic).
> 
> So, this is my not working example:
> 
> %fonts for ijcv
> \setupbodyfontenvironment[default][em=italic]
> %
> \definefontfamily [ijcv-fonts] [serif] [Minion Pro]
> \definefontfamily [ijcv-fonts] [sans] [itcfranklingothicstd]
> %
> \definefontfeature [default] [default] [onum=yes]
> %
> \setupbodyfont[ijcv-fonts, 10.25pt]
> \setupinterlinespace[4.75mm]
> %
> \starttext
> Minion Pro 1234567890
> 
> \ss{ITC Franklin Gothic Book Compressed}
> \stoptext
> 
> The problem is the fontname: [itcfranklingothicstd] doesn't work and I tried [ITC Franklin Gothic Std] and a lot of other spellings. I succeded with a lot of other fonts with this approach.
> 
> What could I have done wrong?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Florian
> 
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
> --
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> 
> http://theltemes.net
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