Some extra empty pages, why? And how to get an initial blank page with page number 0?

Some extra empty pages, why? And how to get an initial blank page with page number 0?

[Gerben Wierda]

Fro my environment:

> %\setuppapersize[B5][B4,landscape]
> \setuppapersize[B5][B5]
> \setupindenting[small]
> \setuplayout[location=doublesided]
> %\setuparranging[2SIDE]
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
> %
> \usemodule[lettri]
> \def\ClearChapterQuote{\def\ChapterQuote{}}
> \ClearChapterQuote
> \newcommand{\ChQuoteFormat}[1]{\starttext%
>         %\raggedright%
>         \startalignment[left]%
>         \startnarrower[4*left] \noindent{\em #1}%
>         \stopnarrower\stopalignment\stoptext\blank}
> \setuphead[chapter]
>         [page=left,
>         before={\ChQuoteFormat{\ChapterQuote}\noheaderandfooterlines%
>                 \page[right]\blank[2*big]},
>         after={\ClearChapterQuote\blank[3*big]}%
>                 \noheaderandfooterlines]

Without \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided], I get single 
sided layout (even if I have the \setuplayout statement, very 
confusing). If I do add \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided], I 
get the following:

1. Title page
2. Empty
3. Page with only a page numer 1 at the top
4. empty
5. Page with Contents 'chapter'
6. Page with quote
7. First page of chapter

Except for pages 3 and 4 that is how I want it. Why are these pages 
there? They are not there if 
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] is left out.

My product file looks like this:

> \startproduct prd_book
> \project project_teoada
>
> \starttext
> \start
> \startstandardmakeup \ss
> \hairline \start
> \switchtobodyfont[20pt]\bf
> \leftaligned{TEOADA}%
> \stop \hairline \blank[line]\rightaligned{Gerben Wierda}%
> \blank[10cm]\start\leftskip=10cm\hairline\stop
> \rightaligned{2005}%
> \stopstandardmakeup
> \stop
>
> \startfrontmatter
>         \completecontent
>         \component c_guide
> \stopfrontmatter
>         \component c_ch1
>         \component c_ch2
>         \component c_ch3
> \startappendices
>        \component c_app1
> \stopappendices
>
> \stoptext
>
> \stopproduct

I have been trying a lot of permutations but so far without luck.

Secondly, when I turn on 2xB5 on one B4 landscape and 2SIDE 
arrangement, I would like to have an initial blank page (with page 
number 0) so I can have my 2SIDE look just like a book would look. I 
have tried to get one with the \page command in various places and with 
various setups, but so far without *any* effect.

I have been using the manual, the wiki and any documentation I have 
been able to find. So far no luck.

Thanks,

G

Re: Some extra empty pages, why? And how to get an initial blank page with page number 0?

[Willi Egger]

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Hi Gerben,

I puzzeled with your project code.
First you  are not allowed to use \starttext \stoptext in a definition.
Your definitione interferes with the chapter mechnism. So more knowledge 
is necessary which I do not have at the moment.
in the "before" option you say \page=right, seems to create a problem.
If you want to start a page with blank lines you nee to insert a \strut

Please see the attached file

KR
Willi


Gerben Wierda wrote:
> Fro my environment:
> 
>> %\setuppapersize[B5][B4,landscape]
>> \setuppapersize[B5][B5]
>> \setupindenting[small]
>> \setuplayout[location=doublesided]
>> %\setuparranging[2SIDE]
>> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
>> %
>> \usemodule[lettri]
>> \def\ClearChapterQuote{\def\ChapterQuote{}}
>> \ClearChapterQuote
>> \newcommand{\ChQuoteFormat}[1]{\starttext%
>>         %\raggedright%
>>         \startalignment[left]%
>>         \startnarrower[4*left] \noindent{\em #1}%
>>         \stopnarrower\stopalignment\stoptext\blank}
>> \setuphead[chapter]
>>         [page=left,
>>         before={\ChQuoteFormat{\ChapterQuote}\noheaderandfooterlines%
>>                 \page[right]\blank[2*big]},
>>         after={\ClearChapterQuote\blank[3*big]}%
>>                 \noheaderandfooterlines]
> 
> 
> Without \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided], I get single sided 
> layout (even if I have the \setuplayout statement, very confusing). If I 
> do add \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided], I get the following:
> 
> 1. Title page
> 2. Empty
> 3. Page with only a page numer 1 at the top
> 4. empty
> 5. Page with Contents 'chapter'
> 6. Page with quote
> 7. First page of chapter
> 
> Except for pages 3 and 4 that is how I want it. Why are these pages 
> there? They are not there if 
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] is left out.
> 
> My product file looks like this:
> 
>> \startproduct prd_book
>> \project project_teoada
>>
>> \starttext
>> \start
>> \startstandardmakeup \ss
>> \hairline \start
>> \switchtobodyfont[20pt]\bf
>> \leftaligned{TEOADA}%
>> \stop \hairline \blank[line]\rightaligned{Gerben Wierda}%
>> \blank[10cm]\start\leftskip=10cm\hairline\stop
>> \rightaligned{2005}%
>> \stopstandardmakeup
>> \stop
>>
>> \startfrontmatter
>>         \completecontent
>>         \component c_guide
>> \stopfrontmatter
>>         \component c_ch1
>>         \component c_ch2
>>         \component c_ch3
>> \startappendices
>>        \component c_app1
>> \stopappendices
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> \stopproduct
> 
> 
> I have been trying a lot of permutations but so far without luck.
> 
> Secondly, when I turn on 2xB5 on one B4 landscape and 2SIDE arrangement, 
> I would like to have an initial blank page (with page number 0) so I can 
> have my 2SIDE look just like a book would look. I have tried to get one 
> with the \page command in various places and with various setups, but so 
> far without *any* effect.
> 
> I have been using the manual, the wiki and any documentation I have been 
> able to find. So far no luck.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> G
> 
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 % Project Gerben Wierda
% COntext file
% filename: project_teoada.tex

 %\setuppapersize[B5][B4,landscape]
 \setuppapersize[B5][B5]
 \setupindenting[small]
%  \setuplayout[location=doublesided]
 %\setuparranging[2SIDE]
 \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
 %
\usemodule[lettri,bib]
\def\ChapterQuote{}
\def\ClearChapterQuote{\def\ChapterQuote{}}
\ClearChapterQuote
 \newcommand{\ChQuoteFormat}[1]{%\starttext%
         %\raggedright%
         \startalignment[left]%
         \startnarrower[4*left] \noindent{\em #1}%
         \stopnarrower\stopalignment
		 %\stoptext
		 \blank}
 \setuphead[chapter]
         [page=left,
         before={\ChQuoteFormat{\ChapterQuote}\noheaderandfooterlines%
                \strut\blank[2*big]}, % \page[right]
         after={\ClearChapterQuote\blank[3*big]%
                 \noheaderandfooterlines}]

\startproject project_teoada

	\product prd_book

\nomorefiles
\stopproject

In a second file:

Project Gerben Wierda
COntext file
filename: prd_book.tex

\startproduct prd_book
\project project_teoada

\starttext
\start
\startstandardmakeup \ss
\hairline \start
\switchtobodyfont[20pt]\bf
\leftaligned{TEOADA}%
\stop \hairline \blank[line]\rightaligned{Gerben Wierda}%
\blank[10cm]\start\leftskip=10cm\hairline\stop
\rightaligned{2005}%
\stopstandardmakeup
\stop

\startfrontmatter
        \completecontent[level=section]
		\page
       \component c_guide
\stopfrontmatter
\startbodymatter
\ChapterQuote{Here comes a chapter quote}
\chapter{the first Chapter}

	\section{All components listed}
	\startitemize[n]
			\item \type{\component c_ch1}
			\item \type{\component c_ch2}
			\item \type{\component c_ch3}
	\stopitemize
\stopbodymatter
\startappendices
	\chapter{Appendix-chapter}
	\section{The appendix component}
	\startitemize[n]
			\item \type{\component c_app1}
	\stopitemize
\stopappendices

\stoptext

\stopproduct


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