Palatino?

Palatino?

[Thomas A.Schmitz]

Hi gang,

I have a problem on my system with the Palatino font. In type-enc, it's 
mapped to

\definefontsynonym [Palatino]             [\typescriptthree-uplr8a]  
[encoding=\typescriptthree]

However, on my system (Gerben Wierda's installation), there is no 
texnansi- or EC- or whatever-uplr8a. Palatino works flawlessly with 
LaTeX, mapped to pplr8t, and of course, it works with ConTeXt if I 
create the tfms myself with texfont, but I thought there was some 
default support for Palatino. Am I missing something?

Best

Thomas

Re: Palatino?

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Thomas,


[...]

> create the tfms myself with texfont, but I thought there was some
> default support for Palatino. Am I missing something?

Yes.... go to the garden and search for palatino. You'll find:

http://contextgarden.net/Psnfss


Patrick
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Re: Re: Palatino?

[Adam Lindsay]

Patrick Gundlach said this at Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:57:16 +0100:

>Yes.... go to the garden and search for palatino. You'll find:
>
>http://contextgarden.net/Psnfss
>

And, IIRC, the \defaultencoding most appropriate for gwTeX, is 8r.
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Follow-Up on TeX@OS X performance

[Matthias Weber]

Hello,

I recently reported a performance degrading on with gwTeX/ConTeXt under 
MacOS X
after upgrading to the most recent gwTeX. I upgraded two other machines 
and did some further
tests. For each run, I renamed the TeX source file, and performed 3 
runs:

i) old TeX
ii) new TeX, 1st run
iii) new TeX 2nd run (still with a new filename)

While ii takes about 10% longer, iii was consistently about as fast as 
i.
My guess is that some of the files in the new TeX installation (I moved 
to TeXLive 2005) need
to be 'broken in' so that subsequent runs of TeX should be faster.

At least it looks as if TeX didn't really slow down after upgrading as 
I first thought.

Matthias

Re: Re: Palatino?

[Thomas A.Schmitz]

Hi Patrick,

the setup in contextgarden is the one that I'm referring to. It doesn't 
work here.

Thomas
On Mar 11, 2005, at 10:57 AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
>
>
> [...]
>
>> create the tfms myself with texfont, but I thought there was some
>> default support for Palatino. Am I missing something?
>
> Yes.... go to the garden and search for palatino. You'll find:
>
> http://contextgarden.net/Psnfss
>
>
> Patrick
> -- 
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Re: Re: Palatino?

[Otared Kavian]

At 11:36 +0100 11/03/05, Thomas A.Schmitz wrote:
>Hi Patrick,
>
>the setup in contextgarden is the one that I'm referring to. It 
>doesn't work here.
>
>Thomas

Hi Thomas,

I am also one of the "fonts-challenged" people...
However, thanks to Patrick, using contextgarden when I do the 
following (see below) everything works here (Mac OS X 10.3.8, withe 
Gerben Wierda's installation of TexLive 2005)

Cheers: OK

%% testing-fonts.tex
\usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[pos]
\usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]

%% for times uncomment this
%\usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding]
%\setupbodyfont[times,12pt]

\starttext
\input knuth
\bigskip

And this is some maths with PostScript fonts.
\startformula
{a \over b} = {c \over d} \iff ad - bc = 0, \qquad \int_0^{2\pi} 
\sin(x)^2dx =\pi, \qquad {\rm e}^{{\rm i}\pi} + 1 = 0.
\stopformula

\stoptext

Re: Re: Palatino?

[Thomas A.Schmitz]

Sorry everybody, and thanks Otared. I wasn't aware that you need {\em 
both} the \setupbodyfont[pos] and the setupbodyfont[palatino] lines. 
Works now! Sorry for the noise.

Best

Thomas

On Mar 11, 2005, at 12:36 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

> \usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding]
> \setupbodyfont[pos]
> \usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
> \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]

Re: Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Matthias Weber]

Hello,

I am not desperate to use new fonts right now, but whenever I see
somebody with a success I'll give it a try.

Here is what happens to me when
trying to use palatino (or any of the other fonts) with the sample file
(Mac OS X, most recent gwTeX)


> %% testing-fonts.tex
> \usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding]
> \setupbodyfont[pos]
> \usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
> \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
>
> %% for times uncomment this
> %\usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding]
> %\setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
>
> \starttext
> \input knuth
> \bigskip
>
> And this is some maths with PostScript fonts.
> \startformula
> {a \over b} = {c \over d} \iff ad - bc = 0, \qquad \int_0^{2\pi}  
> \sin(x)^2dx =\pi, \qquad {\rm e}^{{\rm i}\pi} + 1 = 0.
> \stopformula
>
> \stoptext


It gives me the plain text in the right font, but as a bitmap font,  
which reminds me of the bad old times
when one looked at TeX output without the Adobe Type Manager in OS  
7-9...

I get the warning (which I wouldn't be able to fix)

> Warning: pdfetex (file ec-urw-palatino.map): cannot open font map file
> {/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original- 
> youngryu-
> px.map}]

The math part uses the computer modern fonts as usual.


Any clues what I'm missing?

Matthias



On Mar 11, 2005, at 4:57 AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
>
>
> [...]
>
>> create the tfms myself with texfont, but I thought there was some
>> default support for Palatino. Am I missing something?
>
> Yes.... go to the garden and search for palatino. You'll find:
>
> http://contextgarden.net/Psnfss
>
>
> Patrick
> -- 
> ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net
> _______________________________________________
> ntg-context mailing list
> ntg-context@ntg.nl
> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>
>

Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hi,

your file works fine here. Can you post your log file?

Or try \setupencoding[default=ec]. But this shouldn't make any
differences. 

Patrick
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ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net

Re: Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Matthias Weber]

Hi Patrick,

thanks for looking into this.
Log file follows,

\setupencoding[default=ec] has no effect.

Matthias


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> Or try \setupencoding[default=ec]. But this shouldn't make any
> differences.
>
> Patrick
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Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hi,

ok, you are already using ec encoding as default,
\setupencoding[default=ec] has of course no effect then.


[...]

> pxex.pfb 
> rpxmi.pfb
> uplr8a.pfb
> pxsy.pfb
> rpxr.pfb
> uplri8a.pfb>

These look ok.

> </var/tmp/texfonts/pk/modeless/adobe/palatino/pplr
> 8r.86pk>

There it is. There must be something wrong with your map file. How
does your cont-sys.tex (in your case: cont-sys.rme) look like? 

Do you have something like:

\autoloadmapfilestrue
\loadmapfile[ec-base.map]

in there? What happens if if you use \loadmapfile[ec-base.map] at the
beginning of your test document?


Patrick
-- 
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Re: Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Matthias Weber]

My cont-sys.rme is in


/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme

and has the two lines you mention (I attach the file below, it looks 
kind of old (1995).

Also, if I add

> \loadmapfile[ec-base.map]

nothing changes ---

I tried to locate ec-base.map, but couldn't find it. Is this a regular 
file somewhere in the TeX tree?

Matthias


On Mar 16, 2005, at 11:11 AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

> Hi,
>
> ok, you are already using ec encoding as default,
> \setupencoding[default=ec] has of course no effect then.
>
>
> [...]
>
>> pxex.pfb
>> rpxmi.pfb
>> uplr8a.pfb
>> pxsy.pfb
>> rpxr.pfb
>> uplri8a.pfb>
>
> These look ok.
>
>> </var/tmp/texfonts/pk/modeless/adobe/palatino/pplr
>> 8r.86pk>
>
> There it is. There must be something wrong with your map file. How
> does your cont-sys.tex (in your case: cont-sys.rme) look like?
>
> Do you have something like:
>
> \autoloadmapfilestrue
> \loadmapfile[ec-base.map]
>
> in there? What happens if if you use \loadmapfile[ec-base.map] at the
> beginning of your test document?
>
>
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Re: Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Matthias Weber]

Sorry, forgot to attach cont-sys.rme - see below

Matthias

------


%D \module
%D   [       file=cont-sys,
%D        version=1995.10.10,
%D          title=\CONTEXT\ Miscellaneous Macros,
%D       subtitle=System Specific Setups,
%D         author=Hans Hagen,
%D           date=\currentdate,
%D      copyright={PRAGMA / Hans Hagen \& Ton Otten}]
%C
%C This module is part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package and is
%C therefore copyrighted by \PRAGMA. See mreadme.pdf for
%C details.

\unprotect

% Speed up typescript loading, but at the cost of much memory:
%
% \preloadtypescripts

% Occasionally we will support both A4 and letter in
% styles. If you want letter size paper to be the default,
% uncomment:
%
% \enablemode[\systemmodeprefix letter]
%
% If you always want to default to letter, you may uncomment
% the following line, but beware: it makes your documents less
% portable:
%
% \setuppapersize[letter][letter]

% If you want some extras, just uncomment the following
% line:
%
% \usemodule[plus] % experimental code
%
% Here you can take care of overloading some (style)
% defaults. What goes here, depends on your local system.

% The following commands sets the default font encoding:
%
% \setupencoding [\s!default=texnansi]
%
% or:

\setupencoding [\s!default=ec]

% If you want the default berry names:
%
% \usetypescript [berry] [\defaultencoding]
%
% or, if you also want other encodings:

\usetypescript [berry] [\defaultencoding,t5,8r] % texnansi is never 
present

% If you run into missing font metrics kind of problems,
% you may want to uncomment:
%
% \usetypescript[adobekb] [\defaultencoding]

% You can let \CONTEXT\ load the map files for \PDFTEX.

\autoloadmapfilestrue

% (1) you can prevent loading with:
%
% \preloadmapfile[<...somename...>.map]
%
% (2) otherwise, use this if you have a fast machine
%
% \resetmapfiles \usetypescript [map] [base] [all]
%
% (3) or this if it's a slow one:

\resetmapfiles

\donefalse \ifx\pdftexversion\undefined \else 
\ifnum\number\pdftexversion>119
   \donetrue
\fi \fi \ifdone

   \loadmapfile[original-base.map]
   \loadmapfile[original-ams-base.map]
   \loadmapfile[original-public-lm.map]

\else

   \loadmapfile[original-base.map]
   \loadmapfile[texnansi-base.map]
   \loadmapfile[ec-base.map]
   \loadmapfile[qx-base.map]
   \loadmapfile[t5-base.map]
   %loadmapfile[il2-base.map]
   %loadmapfile[pl0-base.map]
   \loadmapfile[8r-base.map]

   \loadmapfile[original-ams-base.map]
   \loadmapfile[original-ams-euler.map]

   \loadmapfile[original-public-lm.map]
   \loadmapfile[texnansi-public-lm.map]
   \loadmapfile[ec-public-lm.map]
   \loadmapfile[qx-public-lm.map]
   \loadmapfile[t5-public-lm.map]
   \loadmapfile[pl0-public-lm.map]
   \loadmapfile[il2-public-lm.map]

\fi

% When you have your own fonts installed, you may want to predefine:
%
% \usetypescriptfile[type-buy]

% Some styles default to Lucida Bright. You can overload
% Lucida by Times cum suis. Watch out, the pos collection
% is not scaled relatively.
%
% \definetypescriptsynonym [lbr] [pos]

% Compensate for missing files:
%
% \definefontsynonym [gbhei]   [gbsong]
% \definefontsynonym [gbheisl] [gbsong]
% \definefontsynonym [gbheisl] [gbsong]

% Setting up a global figure path
%
% \setupexternalfigures [\c!directory={e:/fig/eps,t:/mine/figs}]
%
% Loading a specific special driver:
%
% \setupoutput [dviwindo]

% Changing language defaults
%
% \setuplanguage
%   [nl]
%   [\c!leftquote=\upperleftsinglesixquote,
%    \c!leftquotation=\upperleftdoublesixquote]

% Loading local preferences, for example
%
% \input prag-gen % company styles
% \input prag-log % more company styles
%
% Enabling run time \METAPOST\ (also enable \write18 in
% texmf.cnf):

% \runMPgraphicstrue
% \runMPTEXgraphicstrue

% This saves some runtime, but needs a format, which you can
% make with 'texexec --make --alone metafun'. Make sure that
% the mem files are moved to the used web2c path (locate with
% 'kpsewhich plain.mem').

\useMETAFUNformattrue

% Enabling nested pretty printing

\newprettytrue

% This can be a way to get things working on system with
% name clashes. (Some \TeX's tend do search system wide.)

\protectbufferstrue

% You can enable a more extensive figure searching, but
% normally this is not really needed and even annoying.
%
% \runutilityfiletrue

% So far.

Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Patrick Gundlach]

[...]

> I tried to locate ec-base.map, but couldn't find it. Is this a regular
> file somewhere in the TeX tree?

It should be in texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec-base.map

ConTeXt ships this file. "kpsewhich ec-base.map" does not give you any
result? 

What distribution are you using? 

Patrick

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Re: Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Matthias Weber]

[...]


kpsewhich ec-base.map

returns

/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec-base.map

and there it is indeed -- I had used locate beforfe.

I am using Gerben's TeX installation via iinstaller, without any own 
changes.

Matthias

On Mar 16, 2005, at 11:45 AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

>
> [...]
>
>> I tried to locate ec-base.map, but couldn't find it. Is this a regular
>> file somewhere in the TeX tree?
>
> It should be in texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec-base.map
>
> ConTeXt ships this file. "kpsewhich ec-base.map" does not give you any
> result?
>
> What distribution are you using?
>
> Patrick
>
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Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hi,

[...]

> kpsewhich ec-base.map
>
> returns
>
> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec-base.map

oh, stupid me! It was already mentioned in the log file. Sorry.


> I am using Gerben's TeX installation via iinstaller, without any own
> changes.

Can you copy the cont-sys.rme to  cont-sys.tex and comment out the
lines with the mapfile related commands?

Is there somebody else out there using Gerben's TeXstuff? (I know
there is at least one :-)) I can only guess. Or get a fresh
cont-sys.tex
(www.pragma-ade.com/system/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex)
and play with that one.


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Re: Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Matthias Weber]

Hi,

I replaced my cont-sys.rme with the one at  
www.pragma-ade.com/system/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme

Everything appears to be ok now -- the difference between the two files

seems to be the following if-statement in the OLD file:


\donefalse \ifx\pdftexversion\undefined \else  
\ifnum\number\pdftexversion>119
   \donetrue
\fi \fi \ifdone

   \loadmapfile[original-base.map]
   \loadmapfile[original-ams-base.map]
   \loadmapfile[original-public-lm.map]

\else

   \loadmapfile[original-base.map]

etc

So I guess this file should have been updated but wasn't for some  
reason.

Thanks Patrick!


Matthias



On Mar 16, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

> Hi,
>
> [...]
>
>> kpsewhich ec-base.map
>>
>> returns
>>
>> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec- 
>> base.map
>
> oh, stupid me! It was already mentioned in the log file. Sorry.
>
>
>> I am using Gerben's TeX installation via iinstaller, without any own
>> changes.
>
> Can you copy the cont-sys.rme to  cont-sys.tex and comment out the
> lines with the mapfile related commands?
>
> Is there somebody else out there using Gerben's TeXstuff? (I know
> there is at least one :-)) I can only guess. Or get a fresh
> cont-sys.tex
> (www.pragma-ade.com/system/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont- 
> sys.tex)
> and play with that one.
>
>
> Patrick
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Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Matthias,

> Everything appears to be ok now -- 

Good News! Now I can go out and celebrate St. Patrick's Day tomorrow
:-))



> So I guess this file should have been updated but wasn't for some
> reason.

Perhaps other GWTEX users should check that as well?

Patrick

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OS X/Gerben Wiebe's TeX font issue + fix

[Matthias Weber]

Hello,

could those of you who use Gerben's TeX installation under OS X check  
whether
the following file produces nice postscript Palatino or ugly bitmap  
Palatino?


%% testing-fonts.tex
\usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[pos]
\usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]

%% for times uncomment this
%\usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding]
%\setupbodyfont[times,12pt]

\starttext
\input knuth
\bigskip

And this is some maths with PostScript fonts.
\startformula
{a \over b} = {c \over d} \iff ad - bc = 0, \qquad \int_0^{2\pi}  
\sin(x)^2dx =\pi, \qquad {\rm e}^{{\rm i}\pi} + 1 = 0.
\stopformula

\stoptext



If the latter is the case, you can fix this (thanks to Patrick) by  
overwriting

/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme

with

http://www.pragma-ade.com/system/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont- 
sys.rme

Also in that case we need a corrected gwConTeXt.


Thanks again to Patrick!



Matthias

Re: OS X/Gerben Wiebe's TeX font issue + fix

[Gerben Wierda]

> Hello,
>
> could those of you who use Gerben's TeX installation under OS X check
> whether
> the following file produces nice postscript Palatino or ugly bitmap
> Palatino?
>
>
> %% testing-fonts.tex
> \usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding]
> \setupbodyfont[pos]
> \usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
> \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
>
> %% for times uncomment this
> %\usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding]
> %\setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
>
> \starttext
> \input knuth
> \bigskip
>
> And this is some maths with PostScript fonts.
> \startformula
> {a \over b} = {c \over d} \iff ad - bc = 0, \qquad \int_0^{2\pi}
> \sin(x)^2dx =\pi, \qquad {\rm e}^{{\rm i}\pi} + 1 = 0.
> \stopformula
>
> \stoptext
>
>
>
> If the latter is the case, you can fix this (thanks to Patrick) by
> overwriting
>
> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme

This one only exists if you have installed the ConTeXt Updater i-Package.
The basic ConTeXt is in the teTeX tree:

/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme

> with
>
> http://www.pragma-ade.com/system/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont-
> sys.rme
>
> Also in that case we need a corrected gwConTeXt.

Basically you can always install the most recent ConTeXt (now 2005.03.16)
with the ConTeXt updater package. But a big caveat: you will need to
install new Latin Modern by hand because the latest ConTeXt beta depends
on having the latest Latin Modern.

G

Re: Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Hans Hagen]

Patrick Gundlach wrote:

> Is there somebody else out there using Gerben's TeXstuff? (I know
> there is at least one :-)) I can only guess. Or get a fresh
> cont-sys.tex
> (www.pragma-ade.com/system/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex)
> and play with that one.

when no cont-sys.tex is found (or when you delete it) context will use 
cont-sys.rme instead

Hans


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Re: Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Hans Hagen]

Matthias Weber wrote:

>> [...]
>>
>>> pxex.pfb
>>> rpxmi.pfb
>>> uplr8a.pfb
>>> pxsy.pfb
>>> rpxr.pfb
>>> uplri8a.pfb>
>>
>> These look ok.
>>
>>> </var/tmp/texfonts/pk/modeless/adobe/palatino/pplr
>>> 8r.86pk>

i wonder why in some cases uplr is used and in other situations pplr.

- maybe palatino px does not go well with the adobekb file?
- maybe some magick auto-name-remapping via the aliases file?

(maybe it's time to drop mapfiles completely)

Hans



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Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello,

> i wonder why in some cases uplr is used and in other situations pplr.
>
> - maybe palatino px does not go well with the adobekb file?

Probably, but I've got mine typeset correctly, so I still wonder why.

> - maybe some magick auto-name-remapping via the aliases file?

Mystery, not magic ;-)


> (maybe it's time to drop mapfiles completely)

+1 from me

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Re: Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Hans Hagen]

Matthias Weber wrote:

> /teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-public- lm.map}
> Warning: pdfetex (file ec-urw-courier.map): cannot open font map file
> 
> Warning: pdfetex (file ec-urw-helvetica.map): cannot open font map file
> 
> Warning: pdfetex (file ec-urw-times.map): cannot open font map file
> {/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original- 
> youngryu-
> tx.map}
> Warning: pdfetex (file ec-urw-palatino.map): cannot open font map file
> {/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original- 
> youngryu-
> px.map}]

smells like missing files

> </var/tmp/texfonts/pk/modeless/adobe/palatino/pplr
> 8r.86pk>

that's the first time i've seen a palatino bitmap come by; i wonder what 
generates them and from what

Hans

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Re: Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Matthias Weber]

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On Mar 16, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Matthias Weber wrote:
>
>> /teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-public-  
>> lm.map}
>> Warning: pdfetex (file ec-urw-courier.map): cannot open font map file
>> Warning: pdfetex (file ec-urw-helvetica.map): cannot open font map  
>> file
>> Warning: pdfetex (file ec-urw-times.map): cannot open font map file
>> {/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ 
>> original- youngryu-
>> tx.map}
>> Warning: pdfetex (file ec-urw-palatino.map): cannot open font map file
>> {/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ 
>> original- youngryu-
>> px.map}]
>
> smells like missing files
>
>> </var/tmp/texfonts/pk/modeless/adobe/palatino/pplr
>> 8r.86pk>
>
> that's the first time i've seen a palatino bitmap come by; i wonder  
> what generates them and from what



It looks really ugly :), as it is only 44k, I attach it for your  
amusement.
I'll be happy to try anything to find the cause. Up to now, I was under  
the impression to have
a very clean (i.e. untouched by myself...) TeX tree on my machine.
Should I wipe the whole TeX installation and reinstall everything?
(and if yes, what needs to be removed? [using gwTeX])

Matthias




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Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Patrick Gundlach]

[...]

>>> </var/tmp/texfonts/pk/modeless/adobe/palatino/pplr
>>> 8r.86pk>
>>
>> that's the first time i've seen a palatino bitmap come by; i wonder
>> what generates them and from what
>
> It looks really ugly :), as it is only 44k, I attach it for your
> amusement.

/me is loughing! That looks gross.

> a very clean (i.e. untouched by myself...) TeX tree on my machine.
> Should I wipe the whole TeX installation and reinstall everything?
> (and if yes, what needs to be removed? [using gwTeX])

If it works OK now, I wouldn't touch it (unless you are bored...)

Patrick

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Re: Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Willi Egger]

Hi Mathias,

your example runs smoothly here, using:
	pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2
	ConTeXt  ver: 2005.01.26  fmt: 2005.1.26


1. Which version of ContTeXt do you run? A new version requires the 
map-files to be placed in  ...\fonts\map.

2. Niew versions of pdftex do nomore use a pdftex.cfg file. So the 
mapfiles must be loaded explicitely with \loadmapfile[...] or must be 
lodaed automatically - see also cont-usr.tex

Kind regards

Willi

Matthias Weber wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am not desperate to use new fonts right now, but whenever I see
> somebody with a success I'll give it a try.
> 
> Here is what happens to me when
> trying to use palatino (or any of the other fonts) with the sample file
> (Mac OS X, most recent gwTeX)
> 
> 
>> %% testing-fonts.tex
>> \usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding]
>> \setupbodyfont[pos]
>> \usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
>> \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
>>
>> %% for times uncomment this
>> %\usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding]
>> %\setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \input knuth
>> \bigskip
>>
>> And this is some maths with PostScript fonts.
>> \startformula
>> {a \over b} = {c \over d} \iff ad - bc = 0, \qquad \int_0^{2\pi}  
>> \sin(x)^2dx =\pi, \qquad {\rm e}^{{\rm i}\pi} + 1 = 0.
>> \stopformula
>>
>> \stoptext
> 
> 
> 
> It gives me the plain text in the right font, but as a bitmap font,  
> which reminds me of the bad old times
> when one looked at TeX output without the Adobe Type Manager in OS  7-9...
> 
> I get the warning (which I wouldn't be able to fix)
> 
>> Warning: pdfetex (file ec-urw-palatino.map): cannot open font map file
>> {/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original- 
>> youngryu-
>> px.map}]
> 
> 
> The math part uses the computer modern fonts as usual.
> 
> 
> Any clues what I'm missing?
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2005, at 4:57 AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
> 
>> Hello Thomas,
>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> create the tfms myself with texfont, but I thought there was some
>>> default support for Palatino. Am I missing something?
>>
>>
>> Yes.... go to the garden and search for palatino. You'll find:
>>
>> http://contextgarden.net/Psnfss
>>
>>
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Re: Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Matthias Weber]

On Mar 16, 2005, at 2:01 PM, Willi Egger wrote:

> Hi Mathias,
>
> your example runs smoothly here, using:
> 	pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2
> 	ConTeXt  ver: 2005.01.26  fmt: 2005.1.26
>
>

Thanks for looking at this, but :)

pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
ConTeXt  ver: 2005.03.02  fmt: 2005.3.4  int: english  mes: english



Patrick tracked this down do an  old cont-sys.rme, and my guess is that 
it is erroneously being distributed with Gerben Wiebe's TeX 
installation
(which I use).

Matthias




> 1. Which version of ContTeXt do you run? A new version requires the 
> map-files to be placed in  ...\fonts\map.
>
> 2. Niew versions of pdftex do nomore use a pdftex.cfg file. So the 
> mapfiles must be loaded explicitely with \loadmapfile[...] or must be 
> lodaed automatically - see also cont-usr.tex
>
> Kind regards
>
> Willi

Re: Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Adam Lindsay]

Seeing this thread, I wonder now if there's any more interest in 
helping ship a cont-sys.tex and a texexec.ini (before it goes away) 
that is tuned to gwTeX?

adam

On 16 Mar 2005, at 19:08, Matthias Weber wrote:

> Patrick tracked this down do an  old cont-sys.rme, and my guess is 
> that it is erroneously being distributed with Gerben Wiebe's TeX 
> installation
> (which I use).

Re: Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Matthias Weber]

I am not even sure where the problem lies, as I am not at all familiar 
with what gets changed for the Mac distribution.
I only noted that with the Mac gwTeX beta for ConTeXT,

i) the font test file with palatino etc doesn't work properly,
ii) replacing the cont-sys.rme in the beta distribution tree with the 
one from pragma
    makes it work,
iii) re-installing the ConTeXt beta via gwTeX breaks it again (so it 
wasn't me unconsciously messing around with the TeX tree)


I am happy to help testing things, but I probably won't be of any use 
when it comes to OS-specific TeXnicalities.

Matthias




On Mar 17, 2005, at 12:40 PM, Adam Lindsay wrote:

> Seeing this thread, I wonder now if there's any more interest in 
> helping ship a cont-sys.tex and a texexec.ini (before it goes away) 
> that is tuned to gwTeX?
>
> adam
>
> On 16 Mar 2005, at 19:08, Matthias Weber wrote:
>
>> Patrick tracked this down do an  old cont-sys.rme, and my guess is 
>> that it is erroneously being distributed with Gerben Wiebe's TeX 
>> installation
>> (which I use).
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Re: Re: Palatino? -> bitmap fonts???

[Hans Hagen]

Adam Lindsay wrote:
> Seeing this thread, I wonder now if there's any more interest in helping 
> ship a cont-sys.tex and a texexec.ini (before it goes away) that is 
> tuned to gwTeX?

just a thought:

if we have

   context/base/gwtex/cont-sys.tex

and some clever search path in texmf.cnf that locates that one first ... ; or maybe

   context/base/$distribution/$engine/cont-sys.tex

or maybe even

   context/$distribution/$engine/cont-sys.tex

Hans

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problem with \digits

[Martin Kolaøík]

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Hi all,

I used \digits and this is the result:

=====

! Missing $ inserted.
<inserted text>
                $
<to be read again>
                   _
\next ...savedigit \collecteddigits @\else \if #1_
                                                  \savedigit
\collecteddigit...

\doCurrency ...{\thinspace CHF}]\BF \digits #1\AF
                                                  \relax

=====

Is this known problem? Something with catcodes, I think,

have a nice day,

Martin

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Re: problem with \digits

[Hans Hagen]

Martin Kolaøík wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I used \digits and this is the result:
> 
> =====
> 
> ! Missing $ inserted.
> <inserted text>
>                 $
> <to be read again>
>                    _
> \next ...savedigit \collecteddigits @\else \if #1_
>                                                   \savedigit
> \collecteddigit...
> 
> \doCurrency ...{\thinspace CHF}]\BF \digits #1\AF
>                                                   \relax
> 
> =====
> 
> Is this known problem? Something with catcodes, I think,

it works ok here; can you make a test file?

Hans


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RE: problem with \digits + one more...

[Martin Kolaøík]

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OK,

it works in my office too (context 02.07.) -- so probably there is a problem in my home installation.

But I have found the next problem:

\starttext

\setupTABLE[column][1][aligncharacter=yes,alignmentcharacter={,},width=5cm,align=middle]

\bTABLE
  \bTR
    \bTD 115,3\eTD
  \eTR
  \bTR
    \bTD 11,53\eTD
  \eTR
  \bTR
    \bTD 1153,0000\eTD
  \eTR
\eTABLE

\stoptext

does not align numbers by comma -- should I setup something more?

Thank you,

Martin


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Martin Kolaøík wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I used \digits and this is the result:
>
> =====
>
> ! Missing $ inserted.
> <inserted text>
>                 $
> <to be read again>
>                    _
> \next ...savedigit \collecteddigits @\else \if #1_
>                                                   \savedigit
> \collecteddigit...
>
> \doCurrency ...{\thinspace CHF}]\BF \digits #1\AF
>                                                   \relax
>
> =====
>
> Is this known problem? Something with catcodes, I think,

it works ok here; can you make a test file?

Hans


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Re: problem with \digits + one more...

[Hans Hagen]

Martin Kolaøík wrote:

> But I have found the next problem:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \setupTABLE[column][1][aligncharacter=yes,alignmentcharacter={,},width=5cm,align=middle]
> 
> \bTABLE
>   \bTR
>     \bTD 115,3\eTD
>   \eTR
>   \bTR
>     \bTD 11,53\eTD
>   \eTR
>   \bTR
>     \bTD 1153,0000\eTD
>   \eTR
> \eTABLE
> 
> \stoptext

seems like some setting got lost when going low level english:

\long\def\doTBLcharalign#1#2% column data
   {\edef\alignmentclass{#1}%
    \edef\alignmentcharacter{\tbltblalignmentcharacter}%
    \ifcase\TBLpass\or
      \setfirstpasscharacteralign\checkalignment{#2}% {\strut#2\unskip}%
    \fi % force hsize, so always a second
    \setsecondpasscharacteralign \checkalignment{#2}% {\strut#2\unskip}%
    \ignorespaces}

\starttext

\setupTABLE[column][1][aligncharacter=yes,alignmentcharacter={,},width=5cm,align=middle]

\bTABLE
   \bTR
     \bTD 115,3 \eTD
   \eTR
   \bTR
     \bTD 11,53 \eTD
   \eTR
   \bTR
     \bTD 1153,0000 \eTD
   \eTR
\eTABLE

% \starttabulate[|cg{.}|cg{,}|cg{,}|]
% \NC period     \NC comma      \NC comma   \NC\NR
% \NG 100.000,00 \NG 100.000,00 \NG 100,00  \NC\NR
% \NG 10.000,00  \NG 10.000,00  \NG 1000,00 \NC\NR
% \NG 100,00     \NG 100,00     \NG 10,00   \NC\NR
% \NG 100,00     \NG 100,00     \NG 10,00   \NC\NR
% \NG 10\\       \NG 10\\       \NG 0,00    \NC\NR
% \NG 10         \NG 10         \NG 0,00    \NC\NR
% \NG 10         \NG 10         \NG 0,00    \NC\NR
% \stoptabulate

\stoptext

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