RE: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: Times New Roman]

RE: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: Times New Roman]

[ishamid]

>===== Original Message From Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> =====
>> 1. Remember that I need both aleph and pdfetex formats; can you do that?
>
>--engine

could you give me an example of its use in building a format?

>or in texexec.ini (rme):
>
>set UseEnginePath to  true

Ok, now I have

\texmf-mswin\web2c\aleph
\texmf-mswin\web2c\pdfetex

but aleph is looking in the wrong directory:

This is Aleph, Version 3.141592-1.15-2.1-0.0-rc4 (Web2c 7.5.3)
 \write18 enabled.
Copyright (c) 2002--2004 the Aleph task force
---! c:\CONTEXT\texmf-mswin/web2c/pdfetex/cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex
(Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)

Is there a configuration option I'm missing?

Best
Idris

Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

Fwd: RE: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: Times New Roman]

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

I have not installed the 3-16 mswincontext.zip yet but could you check 
this Hans (resend in case you missed it;->)?

Idris

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Subject: RE: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman]
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:41:19 -0700

>> ===== Original Message From Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> =====
>>> 1. Remember that I need both aleph and pdfetex formats; can you do 
>>> that?
>>
>> --engine
>
> could you give me an example of its use in building a format?
>
>> or in texexec.ini (rme):
>>
>> set UseEnginePath to  true
>
> Ok, now I have
>
> \texmf-mswin\web2c\aleph
> \texmf-mswin\web2c\pdfetex
>
> but aleph is looking in the wrong directory:
>
> This is Aleph, Version 3.141592-1.15-2.1-0.0-rc4 (Web2c 7.5.3)
>  \write18 enabled.
> Copyright (c) 2002--2004 the Aleph task force
> ---! c:\CONTEXT\texmf-mswin/web2c/pdfetex/cont-en.fmt was written by 
> pdfetex
> (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)
>
> Is there a configuration option I'm missing?
>
> Best
> Idris

-- 
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

RE: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: Times New Roman]

[ishamid]

>===== Original Message From h h extern <pragma@wxs.nl> =====
>Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:31:44 +0100, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> i'll upload a new minimal (beware, tex live 2005 binaries), as well as
>>> the big windows zip (will take a few hours)
>>
>>
>> Any word on that? I saw something dated 3-16-05; I'm assuming that's not
>> it (since your email is dated a day later?)
>
>i let my machine generate the tree while i was watching a movie the day 
before
>  i uploaded the lot -)

So does that meant the 3-16 upload is the one or no? Also, how do I install it 
(could find no instructions...) it looks like a unix tree...

Idris

============================
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

Re: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: Times New Roman]

[h h extern]

Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:31:44 +0100, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> 
>> i'll upload a new minimal (beware, tex live 2005 binaries), as well as 
>> the big windows zip (will take a few hours)
> 
> 
> Any word on that? I saw something dated 3-16-05; I'm assuming that's not 
> it (since your email is dated a day later?)

i let my machine generate the tree while i was watching a movie the day before 
  i uploaded the lot -)


Hans

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Re: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: Times New Roman]

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:31:44 +0100, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> i'll upload a new minimal (beware, tex live 2005 binaries), as well as 
> the big windows zip (will take a few hours)

Any word on that? I saw something dated 3-16-05; I'm assuming that's not 
it (since your email is dated a day later?)

Best
Idris
-- 
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

RE: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: Times New Roman]

[ishamid]

>===== Original Message From Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> =====
>ishamid wrote:
>
>> I'll do whatever it takes...
>
>the big mswincontext.zip

Maybe it's too late, but is it possible to include the bulk of the omega 
distribution, the parts used by Gamma (basically everything except omega.exe).

Looking forward to it

Idris

============================
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

Re: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: Times New Roman]

[Hans Hagen]

ishamid wrote:
> Hi, Hans
> 
>>===== Original Message From Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> =====
> 
> 
>>i'll upload a new minimal (beware, tex live 2005 binaries), as well as the 
> 
> big
> 
>>windows zip (will take a few hours)
> 
> 
> 1. Remember that I need both aleph and pdfetex formats; can you do that?

--engine

or in texexec.ini (rme):

set UseEnginePath to  true


Hans

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Re: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: Times New Roman]

[Hans Hagen]

ishamid wrote:

> I'll do whatever it takes...

the big mswincontext.zip

Hans

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RE: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: Times New Roman]

[ishamid]

>===== Original Message From Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> =====
>ishamid wrote:
>
>> I really wish that updating/upgrading were not always such a pain...
>
>normally it isn't but currently there are three issues that make it painfull:
>
>- incompatible changes in the tds (enc/map paths)
>- changes in pdftex (no config, better map support)
>- the transition to latin modern
>- (unnoticed) changes in pattern file names
>- the usual changes in fonts

I played around for quite some time with the texmf.cnf environment variables 
in both \TeXLive and \ConTeXt trees. I noticed that even when I got \TeXLive 
to search \ConTeXt first, upon compiling it still could not find certain files 
(a tds issue?), while I could never get \ConTeXt to search \TeXLive properly.

This was not helped by the fact that my July04 fpTeX comes with a corrupt 
kpathsea.pdf documentation using type3 fonts!

Yesterday was not my day...

Best
Idris

Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

RE: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: Times New Roman]

[ishamid]

Hi, Hans
>===== Original Message From Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> =====

>i'll upload a new minimal (beware, tex live 2005 binaries), as well as the 
big
>windows zip (will take a few hours)

1. Remember that I need both aleph and pdfetex formats; can you do that?

2. After you upload, please:-) tell me exactly what I need to get things 
working. I only have high-speed access at my office (rather far from here) and 
will head there as soon as you have uploaded things. I only downloaded the 
minimal mswintex.zip; should I get the big one? Should I upgrade to the latest 
fpTeX/TeXLive as well? If so, let me know which depository you use so that I 
don't get the wrong one (yes, I'm paranoid->)

I'll do whatever it takes...

And as always,
Thnx!!!

Idris

Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

Re: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: Times New Roman]

[Hans Hagen]

ishamid wrote:

> I really wish that updating/upgrading were not always such a pain...

normally it isn't but currently there are three issues that make it painfull:

- incompatible changes in the tds (enc/map paths)
- changes in pdftex (no config, better map support)
- the transition to latin modern
- (unnoticed) changes in pattern file names
- the usual changes in fonts

and ... you end up in the middle of it

i'll upload a new minimal (beware, tex live 2005 binaries), as well as the big 
windows zip (will take a few hours)

Hans

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Configuring 2 trees [was RE: Times New Roman]

[ishamid]

Dear cartel,

>===== Original Message From "Thomas A.Schmitz" <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de> 
=====
What does
>
>kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFLOCAL
>produce?

1.I have 2 trees: C:\Context (from mswintex.zip) and C:\TeXLive (from July04).
 
kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFLOCAL

works for the \Context tree:

>C:\ConTeXt\texmf-mswin\bin\kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFLOCAL
c:/ConTeXt/texmf-local

>C:\ConTeXt\texmf-mswin\bin\kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFMAIN
c:/ConTeXt/texmf

2. What I would like: how do I properly modify texmf.cnf (presumably 
C:\ConTeXt\texmf-local\web2c\texmf.cnf is the main one) so that

a. C:\ConTeXt is given priority over C:\TeXLive;
b. C:\TeXLive\texmf-var\web2c   formats are searched after
   C:\ConTeXt\texmf-local\web2c
c. C:\ConTeXt utilities like TeXFont install files to
   C:\ConTeXt\texmf-local\
   instead of to
   C:\TeXLive\texmf-local (for some reason the C:\ConTeXt tree does 
recognize C:\TeXLive\texmf-local by default)

Of course, I may be missing the big picture here, in which case please 
enlighten me!

Part of my problem is that

1. apparently I can make both pdfetex and aleph formats in the TeXLive tree 
(efmt and fmt respectively), but only one of them in the ConTeXt tree (both 
are dumped as cont-en.fmt)

2. I can't just dump cont-tmf.zip into TeXLive\texmf-var, because some 
utilities (like texfont.exe) do not get updated or replaced. So I would have 
to manually delete e.g., texfont.exe and replace it with the new texfont.bat, 
making a mess of my TeXLive system.

I really wish that updating/upgrading were not always such a pain...

Best
Idris

Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523