From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/19644 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Re: customizing footnote numbers Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:21:33 +0200 Message-ID: <4253D44D.1020406@wxs.nl> References: <20050403195842.GB27556@localhost.localdomain> <20050404061013.GA31321@localhost.localdomain> <4250FAF5.1070604@wxs.nl> <20050405012754.GA13140@localhost.localdomain> <20050405155223.GB23300@localhost.localdomain> <20050405225257.GB24022@localhost.localdomain> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112790024 28454 80.91.229.2 (6 Apr 2005 12:20:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Apr 06 14:20:22 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJ9VI-0004LV-UV for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:19:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5ED1282F; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:21:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19111-05-4; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:21:31 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B10712829; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:21:31 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A0212829 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:21:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19111-05-3 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:21:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailrelay02.solcon.nl (maillb.solcon.nl [212.45.32.200]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA77512827 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:21:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from server-1.pragma-net.nl (dsl-212-84-128-085.solcon.nl [212.84.128.85]) by mailrelay02.solcon.nl (8.12.11/SQL-8.12.11-5/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j36CLReO011353 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:21:27 +0200 Original-Received: by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 616961803F; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:01:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.54] (unknown [10.100.1.54]) by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B3817D59 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:01:49 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/705/Fri Feb 11 17:51:32 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on mailrelay02 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:19644 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:19644 Patrick Gundlach wrote: > [...] > > > >>>We are in a fully programmable environment, >>>and it is extremely unConTeXtish to hack the visual appearance. >> >>I am an XML author, so am pretty amazed to hear that one should not mix >>appearance and content in ConTeXt. Most of a ConTeXt document involves >>visual appearance. What is one saying when one writes \blank[12pt]? > > > This is visual appearance, of cource. But I am not talking about one > single instance of \blank anywhere, I am talking about changing a > reaeated statement (like the footnotes) by visual means. And > formatting instructions have no right to exist there (in fact they > should be filtered out by \sanitizelogigalmarkup{\footnote...}. This > is one of the great advantages of using a high level language such as > LaTeX or ConTeXt (and ConTeXt so much more than LaTeX) that we can > define layout in this way. to this i can add that concerning the blank, one preferably should follow the indirect approach, thereby avoiding hard coded numbers in the document source \defineblank[mybig][33pt] .... \blank[mybig] Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------