From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/19780 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: undefined guillemots Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:49:00 +0200 Message-ID: <425B6F5C.3030101@wxs.nl> References: <1ec9559b80018f5bc421e57760143f6f@dandy.net> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1113288655 21165 80.91.229.2 (12 Apr 2005 06:50:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Apr 12 08:50:50 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLFDw-0003Qh-Jm for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:50:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8061286B; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:53:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08900-06; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:53:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF1012866; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:48:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C7712866 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:48:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08900-05 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:48:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailrelay01.solcon.nl (maillb.solcon.nl [212.45.32.200]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D625012849 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:48:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from server-1.pragma-net.nl (dsl-212-84-128-085.solcon.nl [212.84.128.85]) by mailrelay01.solcon.nl (8.12.11/SQL-8.12.11-5/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3C6mts9008601 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:48:55 +0200 Original-Received: by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id E2EA417B6E; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:28:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.54] (unknown [10.100.1.54]) by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6299CB0 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:28:15 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <1ec9559b80018f5bc421e57760143f6f@dandy.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/744/Fri Mar 4 04:01:45 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on mailrelay01 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:19780 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:19780 Steve Peter wrote: > > On Apr 11, 2005, at 2:37 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > >> Hi there! >> >> AFAIK this should work: >> >> \setuplanguage[de][ >> leftquote=\guilsinglleft, >> rightquote=\guilsinglright, >> leftquotation=\guillemotleft, >> rightquotation=\guillemotright >> ] > > > setuplanguage[de][ > leftquote=\guilsingleleft, > rightquote=\guilsingleright, > leftquotation=\leftguillemot, > rightquotation=\rightguillemot > ] > > However, this brings up a more general issue (for Hans, especially). The > symbol is called a guillemet, a diminutive of Guillaume (Le Be), the > typographer. It has nothing to do with the French word for word, mot. :-) we already have (in enco-def): \ifx\greeklamda\undefined \def\greeklamda{\greeklambda} \fi \ifx\greekLamda\undefined \def\greekLamda{\greekLambda} \fi and i've added: \ifx\leftguillemet \undefined \def\leftguillemet {\leftguillemot } \fi \ifx\rightguillemet\undefined \def\rightguillemet{\rightguillemot} \fi Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------