From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/81227 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Meer H. van der" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: upto current Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:05:59 +0100 Message-ID: <426BD0E4-2BA5-4101-AED6-D5E9FB4365D8@uva.nl> References: <5148AB62.50002@wxs.nl> <918676C5-3AD6-456C-B75D-3A4F130D1CBD@gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363766771 22029 80.91.229.3 (20 Mar 2013 08:06:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:06:11 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Mar 20 09:06:36 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UIE2b-0000bJ-Ry for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:06:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3002B101F5; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:06:09 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 5tdM6MWI6Yyj; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:06:05 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEA3101EC; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:06:05 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD274101EC for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:06:03 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 0JZgz0whbA7W for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:05:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter2-utr.mf.surf.net (filter2-utr.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.153]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D18E101EB for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:05:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ezel.ic.uva.nl (ezel.ic.uva.nl [146.50.108.158]) by filter2-utr.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r2K85wVp011948 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:05:58 +0100 Original-Received: from elhalyn-ethernet.fritz.box (a82-95-102-36.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.95.102.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by ezel.ic.uva.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2K85v86012299 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:05:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: <918676C5-3AD6-456C-B75D-3A4F130D1CBD@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=146.50.108.158; country=NL; region=07; city=Amsterdam; latitude=52.3500; longitude=4.9167; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.3500,4.9167&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 04JdI5W9L - 86d260bcbcba - 20130320 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.153 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:81227 Archived-At: On 20 mrt. 2013, at 07:05, Otared Kavian wrote: > = > On 19 mars 2013, at 19:47, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > = >> [=85]Although most active users use ConTeXt standalone and are willing t= o update frequently, TL still plays an important role in introducing new us= ers to ConTeXt. An experienced TeX user who wants to try ConTeXt is more li= kely to try ConTeXt distributed as part of TL rather than ConTeXt standalon= e. When there are serious bugs with ConTeXt TL, it gives the impression tha= t ConTeXt is not a mature macro package. > = > Hi, > = > = > So my pledge is this: make any stable version of ConTeXt in TeXLive so th= at it works and typesets a tex-file =AB out of the box =BB, without needing= to issue any command other than: > context myfile.tex > This is the case with LaTeX inside TeXLive, and so I cannot see any stron= g reason for ConTeXt not having the same behavior. > = Being a fan of ConTeXt, I strongly agree with the above plea to make ConTeX= t a painless experience for most users. I think of myself as someone who kn= ows a bit of computers and programming. But even then I can feel sometimes = something of what others must experience when nothing seems to work and no = idea why. The best advocate for ConTeXt is an "invisible" ConTeXt for all those out t= here who just want their stuff made printer ready without hassles. ConTeXt = deserves a wider use. Hans van der Meer ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________