From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/20133 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "luigi.scarso" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: XYpic Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:01:12 +0200 Message-ID: <42709848.4050807@logosrl.it> References: <426E5FA6.3020600@logosrl.it> <58a0167512a8c8eca8721238f25bd090@fiee.net> <426F670F.1050900@seznam.cz> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1114678736 25347 80.91.229.2 (28 Apr 2005 08:58:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:58:56 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Apr 28 10:58:53 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DR4q2-0005FN-MX for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:57:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71161127F1; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:03:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15750-06; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:03:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FFF127FC; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:01:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9EB127FC for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:01:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15750-05 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:01:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ServerNotes.logosrl.it (unknown [81.208.99.91]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DCD127F2 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:01:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [192.168.2.85] ([192.168.2.85]) by ServerNotes.logosrl.it (Lotus Domino Release 6.5.1) with ESMTP id 2005042811011911-497 ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:01:19 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <426F670F.1050900@seznam.cz> X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ServerNotes/Logo(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 28/04/2005 11.01.19, Serialize by Router on ServerNotes/Logo(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 28/04/2005 11.01.21, Serialize complete at 28/04/2005 11.01.21 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:20133 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:20133 Vit Zyka wrote: > > > before I started to use context I had prepared some diagrams in xypic. Me too, for some notes on a course on commutative algebra when I was student at university. > It was the only way I knew for creating vector graphics for both tex > and pdftex with text and graphics interaction possibility. > I try xfig with poor results. > For that experience I strongly discourage for using it with context: > 1) Xypic has the most obscure syntax I have ever seen. After writing some commutative algebra exercises, xy code is not so obscure :) > 2) Nobody knows if there are not some name-space problems > (redefinitions). Big problem not only with xypic. (after grep-ing xp package and context base I found some possibles names collisions in core-pos.tex,page-lyr.tex,xtag-ini.tex) > 3) Metapost is naturaly incorporated to context, strongly supported, > higher possibilities and (my opinion) much more intuitive. > Yes, I love metafun. But a mp graphic must be preprocessed by mpost for inclusion, and I can do it only if I can execute sysytems commands; this open a security and performance issues. So: "Can I typeset a framedbox with a rulestyle WITHOUT using MetaPost ?" I have posted an idea with XYPic; but \leaders can be used too. > So I think that such a contextgarden xypic page would be only confusing. > ok, I follow your suggestion. > > > P.S. If you are still interesting google for xypic manual. Better: http://www.tug.org/applications/Xy-pic/ luigi