From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/19979 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Idris Samawi Hamid Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: RE: oldstyle figures Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:02:56 -0600 Message-ID: <4271E9CA@webmail.colostate.edu> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1113922754 22020 80.91.229.2 (19 Apr 2005 14:59:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Apr 19 16:59:12 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNuBk-0001zk-AN for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:58:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DAEA127CF; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:03:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04398-07; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:03:01 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58B3127A1; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:03:01 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29663127A1 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:03:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04437-04 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:02:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from eagle.colostate.edu (eagle.acns.colostate.edu [129.82.100.90]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E8C1278E for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:02:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lamar.colostate.edu (lamar.acns.colostate.edu [129.82.100.75]) by eagle.colostate.edu (AIX5.1/8.11.6p2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id j3JF2vS1125708; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:02:57 -0600 Original-Received: from webmail.colostate.edu (csunts4.acns.colostate.edu [129.82.100.135]) by lamar.colostate.edu (AIX5.1/8.11.6p2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id j3JF2ZH733852; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:02:35 -0600 X-WebMail-UserID: ishamid Original-To: Eckhart Guth=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=F6hrlein?= , mailing list for ConTeXt users X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002247, 00002264 X-Mailer: Infinite Mobile Delivery (Hydra) SMTP v3.62.01 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:19979 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:19979 >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Original Message From Eckhart Guth=F6hrlein > should do everything you need: since u're not mixing text in \digits do you >> really need a global math font reencoding? > >In principle yes. For example, $f(x)=3D3x+7$ should come out with oldstyle >figures, if these are used by default, shouldn't it? No, I don't think so (see below) >Btw, striving for good typography, in which cases should oldstyle >figures *not* be used? I am no typography expert, but I think that old style figures are, generally speaking, inappropriate for math mode. The various heights, etc. make more work for the brain in complicated mathematics expressions. I can't recall ever seeing good mathematics/physics done in old style figures. OS numerals are actually _text_ figures, as Bringhurst points out. In my own academic journal there is little to no math, but when someone mentions, e.g., the version of a computer program, I put the version number in upright figures, thought the rest of the journal is in os figures. That's my two cents, for what it's worth:-) Best Idris =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523