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* Rif: Re: dotted line for \framed ?
@ 2005-04-24 15:45 Luigi Scarso
  2005-04-26 15:35 ` luigi.scarso
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From: Luigi Scarso @ 2005-04-24 15:45 UTC (permalink / raw)







With Metapost you can put in background almost anything you want, so it's
not complex make a dotted line for frame; Metafun is a great tutorial for
these things.

A nice solution should be dotted line for \framed WITHOUT use metapost,
something like
\framed[rulestyle={dot},...]

[OT] Can XYpic be used under Context ? I will try .

luigi

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* Rif: Re: dotted line for \framed ?
  2005-04-24 15:45 Rif: Re: dotted line for \framed ? Luigi Scarso
@ 2005-04-26 15:35 ` luigi.scarso
  2005-04-26 18:24   ` XYpic (was: dotted line for \framed ?) Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: luigi.scarso @ 2005-04-26 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw)


Luigi Scarso wrote:

>
>
>
>
>[OT] Can XYpic be used under Context ? I will try .
>
>  
>
At least for  me this works:
\input xy
\xyoption{frame}
\starttext
\framed[offset=10pt]{%
\xy
(0,0) *++=\hbox{text} *\frm{--} ;
(50,0) *++=\hbox{text} *\frm{..} ;
(100,0) *++=\hbox{text} *\frm{=} ;
\endxy}
\stoptext

It can be a way to add some frame style without using metapost.

luigi

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* XYpic (was: dotted line for \framed ?)
  2005-04-26 15:35 ` luigi.scarso
@ 2005-04-26 18:24   ` Henning Hraban Ramm
  2005-04-27 10:18     ` XYpic Vit Zyka
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2005-04-26 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw)


Am 26.04.2005 um 17:35 schrieb luigi.scarso:
>> [OT] Can XYpic be used under Context ? I will try .
> At least for  me this works:
> \input xy
> \xyoption{frame}
> \starttext
> \framed[offset=10pt]{%
> \xy
> (0,0) *++=\hbox{text} *\frm{--} ;
> (50,0) *++=\hbox{text} *\frm{..} ;
> (100,0) *++=\hbox{text} *\frm{=} ;
> \endxy}
> \stoptext
> It can be a way to add some frame style without using metapost.

I don't know XYpic, but it looks interesting.
Would you write a wiki page about it?


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* Re: XYpic
  2005-04-26 18:24   ` XYpic (was: dotted line for \framed ?) Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2005-04-27 10:18     ` Vit Zyka
  2005-04-28  8:01       ` XYpic luigi.scarso
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From: Vit Zyka @ 2005-04-27 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw)


Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Am 26.04.2005 um 17:35 schrieb luigi.scarso:
> 
>>> [OT] Can XYpic be used under Context ? I will try .
>>
>> At least for  me this works:
>> \input xy
>> \xyoption{frame}
>> \starttext
>> \framed[offset=10pt]{%
>> \xy
>> (0,0) *++=\hbox{text} *\frm{--} ;
>> (50,0) *++=\hbox{text} *\frm{..} ;
>> (100,0) *++=\hbox{text} *\frm{=} ;
>> \endxy}
>> \stoptext
>> It can be a way to add some frame style without using metapost.
> 
> 
> I don't know XYpic, but it looks interesting.
> Would you write a wiki page about it?

Dear Henning,

before I started to use context I had prepared some diagrams in xypic. 
It was the only way I knew for creating vector graphics for both tex and 
pdftex with text and graphics interaction possibility.

For that experience I strongly discourage for using it with context:
1) Xypic has the most obscure syntax I have ever seen.
2) Nobody knows if there are not some name-space problems (redefinitions).
3) Metapost is naturaly incorporated to context, strongly supported, 
higher possibilities and (my opinion) much more intuitive.

So I think that such a contextgarden xypic page would be only confusing.

vit

P.S. If you are still interesting google for xypic manual.

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* Re: XYpic
  2005-04-27 10:18     ` XYpic Vit Zyka
@ 2005-04-28  8:01       ` luigi.scarso
  2005-04-28 10:42         ` XYpic Vit Zyka
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From: luigi.scarso @ 2005-04-28  8:01 UTC (permalink / raw)


Vit Zyka wrote:

>
>
> before I started to use context I had prepared some diagrams in xypic. 

Me too, for some notes on a course  on commutative algebra when I was 
student at university.

> It was the only way I knew for creating vector graphics for both tex 
> and pdftex with text and graphics interaction possibility.
>
I try xfig with poor results.

> For that experience I strongly discourage for using it with context:
> 1) Xypic has the most obscure syntax I have ever seen.

After writing some commutative algebra exercises, xy code is not so 
obscure :)

> 2) Nobody knows if there are not some name-space problems 
> (redefinitions).

Big problem not only with xypic.
(after grep-ing xp package and context base I found some possibles names 
collisions
in  core-pos.tex,page-lyr.tex,xtag-ini.tex)

> 3) Metapost is naturaly incorporated to context, strongly supported, 
> higher possibilities and (my opinion) much more intuitive.
>
Yes, I love metafun.
But a mp graphic must be preprocessed by mpost for inclusion, and I can 
do it only
if I can execute sysytems commands; this open a security and performance 
issues.

So:
"Can I typeset a framedbox with a rulestyle WITHOUT using MetaPost ?"
I have posted an idea with XYPic; but \leaders can be used too.

> So I think that such a contextgarden xypic page would be only confusing.
>
ok, I follow your suggestion.

>
>
> P.S. If you are still interesting google for xypic manual.

Better:
http://www.tug.org/applications/Xy-pic/

luigi

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* Re: XYpic
  2005-04-28  8:01       ` XYpic luigi.scarso
@ 2005-04-28 10:42         ` Vit Zyka
  2005-04-28 11:02           ` XYpic luigi.scarso
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From: Vit Zyka @ 2005-04-28 10:42 UTC (permalink / raw)


luigi.scarso wrote:
> Vit Zyka wrote:
>>
>> before I started to use context I had prepared some diagrams in xypic. 
> 
> Me too, for some notes on a course  on commutative algebra when I was 
> student at university.
> 
>> It was the only way I knew for creating vector graphics for both tex 
>> and pdftex with text and graphics interaction possibility.
>>
> I try xfig with poor results.

With 'interaction possibilitity' I meant e.g. text labeling with the 
same fonts and possibilities as in the main text (math...), length 
parametrization. It is not possile in xfig.

>> 3) Metapost is naturaly incorporated to context, strongly supported, 
>> higher possibilities and (my opinion) much more intuitive.
>>
> Yes, I love metafun.
> But a mp graphic must be preprocessed by mpost for inclusion, and I can 
> do it only
> if I can execute sysytems commands; this open a security and performance 
> issues.

It is true only for very advanced features like text along line, AFAIK. 
For framed text it is possible to run mpost manually with several passes 
of tex.

> So:
> "Can I typeset a framedbox with a rulestyle WITHOUT using MetaPost ?"

(Rulestyle?) Frames with only plain \hrule and \vrule is of course 
possible even with plain TeX. But it is probably not what you mean.

vit

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* Re: XYpic
  2005-04-28 10:42         ` XYpic Vit Zyka
@ 2005-04-28 11:02           ` luigi.scarso
  2005-04-28 22:05             ` XYpic Vit Zyka
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From: luigi.scarso @ 2005-04-28 11:02 UTC (permalink / raw)


Vit Zyka wrote:

>> But a mp graphic must be preprocessed by mpost for inclusion, and I 
>> can do it only
>> if I can execute sysytems commands; this open a security and 
>> performance issues.
>
>
> It is true only for very advanced features like text along line, 
> AFAIK. For framed text it is possible to run mpost manually with 
> several passes of tex.

Ok, it seem I've missed something important because I don't understand 
when you say
"For framed text it is possible to run mpost manually with several 
passes of tex. ".
This seem in contrast with preprocessing as I write before.

Can you give me a simple example ?

Thanks
luigi

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* Re: XYpic
  2005-04-28 11:02           ` XYpic luigi.scarso
@ 2005-04-28 22:05             ` Vit Zyka
  2005-04-29  7:08               ` XYpic luigi.scarso
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From: Vit Zyka @ 2005-04-28 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw)


luigi.scarso wrote:
> Vit Zyka wrote:
> 
>>> But a mp graphic must be preprocessed by mpost for inclusion, and I 
>>> can do it only
>>> if I can execute sysytems commands; this open a security and 
>>> performance issues.
>>
>> It is true only for very advanced features like text along line, 
>> AFAIK. For framed text it is possible to run mpost manually with 
>> several passes of tex.
> 
> Ok, it seem I've missed something important because I don't understand 
> when you say
> "For framed text it is possible to run mpost manually with several 
> passes of tex. ".
> This seem in contrast with preprocessing as I write before.
> 
> Can you give me a simple example ?

Of course.

1. For a moment I set
   shell_escape =			f
in `kpsewhich texmf.cnf'

2. Input file f.tex:
\startuseMPgraphic{A}
   draw unitcircle scaled\overlaywidth;
\stopuseMPgraphic

\defineoverlay
   [B]
   [\uniqueMPgraphic{A}]

\starttext
   \framed[background=B]{Hallo frame!}
\stoptext

3a. classical run
   texexec --pdf f

3b. step by step
   texexec --pdf --nomp f
   mpost f-mpgraph
   texexec --pdf --nomp f

vit

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* Re: XYpic
  2005-04-28 22:05             ` XYpic Vit Zyka
@ 2005-04-29  7:08               ` luigi.scarso
  2005-04-29  8:21                 ` XYpic Vit Zyka
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From: luigi.scarso @ 2005-04-29  7:08 UTC (permalink / raw)


Vit, many thanks for your answer.

Vit Zyka wrote:

> 1. For a moment I set
>   shell_escape =            f
> in `kpsewhich texmf.cnf'
>
ok, done

> 2. Input file f.tex:
> \startuseMPgraphic{A}
>   draw unitcircle scaled\overlaywidth;
> \stopuseMPgraphic
>
> \defineoverlay
>   [B]
>   [\uniqueMPgraphic{A}]
>
> \starttext
>   \framed[background=B]{Hallo frame!}
> \stoptext
>
> 3a. classical run
>   texexec --pdf f
>
No circle under frame,  right? If not, I have a bad installation; please 
discard the rest
(and some hints to repair will be really appreciate :)  ).

> 3b. step by step
>   texexec --pdf --nomp f
>   mpost f-mpgraph
>   texexec --pdf --nomp f
>
>
A circle appear under the frame. But I   have 3  runs ( texexec, mpost, 
texexec).

Now, what is my goal ?
To achieve a circle under the frame  as quick as possible.

For 3.a, in f.log I find

  mpost  -progname=mpost -mem=metafun f-mpgraph
  system()...disabled.

An attempt to run mpost failed: no circle, goal unsatisfied.

For 3.b, I run manually mpost (and then again texexec): goal satisfied.

With shell_export=t, 3.a) is ok, but f.log says
system(mpost  -progname=mpost -mem=metafun f-mpgraph)...executed.

So it seems that my goal can be achieved only with  a run of mpost.

With XYPic, a similar result can be achieved without mpost:
%%
%% WARNING:: deprecated example
%% Don't use it !
%%
\input xy
\xyoption{frame}
\starttext
\xy
(0,0) *++=\hbox{\framed{Hallo frame}} *\frm{o} ;
\endxy
\stoptext

Of course this doesn't mean that XY is better/worse than mpost, nor that
using mpost coupled with context will be always slow than others ways;
but sometimes a faster alternative may be required.

Sure for XYPic, name spaces collisions, cpu/memory required, syntax are 
(some) items
to consider: but it also comes with a bunch of features and may be 
faster than mpost
in some circumstances.

[OT] XFIG: fig2dev can be export to metapost and in multi-metapost.
Hence, from the moon, I see that xfig can be used with context.

luigi

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* Re: XYpic
  2005-04-29  7:08               ` XYpic luigi.scarso
@ 2005-04-29  8:21                 ` Vit Zyka
  2005-04-29 10:27                   ` XYpic luigi.scarso
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From: Vit Zyka @ 2005-04-29  8:21 UTC (permalink / raw)


luigi.scarso wrote:
> Vit, many thanks for your answer.
> 
> Vit Zyka wrote:
> 
>> 1. For a moment I set
>>   shell_escape =            f
>> in `kpsewhich texmf.cnf'
>>
> ok, done
> 
>> 2. Input file f.tex:
>> \startuseMPgraphic{A}
>>   draw unitcircle scaled\overlaywidth;
>> \stopuseMPgraphic
>>
>> \defineoverlay
>>   [B]
>>   [\uniqueMPgraphic{A}]
>>
>> \starttext
>>   \framed[background=B]{Hallo frame!}
>> \stoptext
>>
>> 3a. classical run
>>   texexec --pdf f
>>
> No circle under frame,  right? If not, I have a bad installation; please 
> discard the rest
> (and some hints to repair will be really appreciate :)  ).

?? I obtained both a frame and a circle.

>> 3b. step by step
>>   texexec --pdf --nomp f
>>   mpost f-mpgraph
>>   texexec --pdf --nomp f
>>
> A circle appear under the frame. But I   have 3  runs ( texexec, mpost, 
> texexec).

Yes, the cases 3a = 3b should have at least 3 runs. With shell_escape=t 
only 2 are needed. You are right.

> With XYPic, a similar result can be achieved without mpost:
> %%
> %% WARNING:: deprecated example
> %% Don't use it !
> %%
> \input xy
> \xyoption{frame}
> \starttext
> \xy
> (0,0) *++=\hbox{\framed{Hallo frame}} *\frm{o} ;
> \endxy
> \stoptext
> 
> Of course this doesn't mean that XY is better/worse than mpost, nor that
> using mpost coupled with context will be always slow than others ways;
> but sometimes a faster alternative may be required.

All right, I agree for somebody and sometimes xypic might be use with 
advantage. I was thinkink about general recommendation.

> Sure for XYPic, name spaces collisions, cpu/memory required, syntax are 

+ limitation by substance: drawing is mostly done via fonts

> (some) items
> to consider: but it also comes with a bunch of features and may be 
> faster than mpost
> in some circumstances.
> 
> [OT] XFIG: fig2dev can be export to metapost and in multi-metapost.
> Hence, from the moon, I see that xfig can be used with context.

Export to context is good news. But still no parametrization possible :-(

vit

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* Re: XYpic
  2005-04-29  8:21                 ` XYpic Vit Zyka
@ 2005-04-29 10:27                   ` luigi.scarso
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From: luigi.scarso @ 2005-04-29 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw)


Vit, the last things.
After that I consider this topic closed.

 >>+ limitation by substance: drawing is mostly done via fonts
Yes, I forget to write it.
 >>[XFIG]..Export to context is good news. But still no parametrization 
possible :-(
..maybe something to play this summer...

Now for metapost:

shell_escape= f
in texmf.cnf
so \write18 is disabled.


$>texexec --pdf f
No circle; it seems right, because f.log says
systems        : randomizer starts with 797065300
mpost  -progname=mpost -mem=metafun f-mpgraph
system()...disabled.

$> shell_escape=x ; texutil --purgeall; texexec --pdf f
As before.

$> shell_escape= ; texutil --purgeall; texexec --pdf f
As before.

$> shell_escape=t ; texutil --purgeall; texexec --pdf f
Circle ok; again it's right, f.log says
systems        : randomizer starts with 800565448
system(mpost  -progname=mpost -mem=metafun f-mpgraph)...executed.

$> shell_escape=f ; texutil --purgeall; texexec --pdf f
Strange:circle again.
I found into texexec.pl
if (($ENV{shell_escape} eq 'f') || ($ENV{SHELL_ESCAPE} eq 'f')) {
    $AutoMPRun = 1 ;
}
Hence texexec/texutil has called mpost instead of \write18; it's like 
shell_escape=t
(for this task, not in general sense, of course)
Hmm, it's not crystal clear:
shell_escape=f  means "shell_escape is  False"
shell_escape=t  means "shell_escape is  True"
but for processing f.tex 'True and False are the same'

$>shell_escape=; texutil --purge; texexec --pdf --automprun f
Circle ok; it seems right, because I force execution of mpost.

Again, many thanks
luigi

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* Re: XYPic
  2007-05-14  9:33                     ` XYPic luigi scarso
@ 2007-05-15 12:40                       ` Dirard M. Mikdad
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Ok, I will do that.

Thnx,

Dirard
* On 14/05/07 at 11:34 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also, have a look at
> http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/metapost/contrib/macros/metaobj
> It seems that it has the same power of XY-pic .
> -- 
> luigi
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* Re: XYPic
  2007-05-04 13:25                   ` XYPic luigi scarso
@ 2007-05-14  9:33                     ` luigi scarso
  2007-05-15 12:40                       ` XYPic Dirard M. Mikdad
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Also, have a look at
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/metapost/contrib/macros/metaobj
It seems that it has the same power of XY-pic .
-- 
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* Re: XYPic
  2007-05-04 12:57                 ` XYPic Dirard Mikdad
@ 2007-05-04 13:25                   ` luigi scarso
  2007-05-14  9:33                     ` XYPic luigi scarso
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On 5/4/07, Dirard Mikdad <dmikdad@math.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:
> Luigi,
>
> It works!
I'm not so sure about this, if I have time I will give a closer look.

BTW, the safest way actually is to made your xy-diagrams in pdftex as
singles figure and then import in context using \externalfigure.
With a bit of TeX programming, you can also made a pdf that contains exactly
a xy-diagram (ie width and height are those of xy-diagram no letter or a4)
so that inclusion in context is nicer.

luigi
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* Re: XYPic
  2007-05-04  0:17               ` XYPic luigi scarso
@ 2007-05-04 12:57                 ` Dirard Mikdad
  2007-05-04 13:25                   ` XYPic luigi scarso
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From: Dirard Mikdad @ 2007-05-04 12:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Luigi,

It works!

Grazie mille,

Dirard

* On 04/05/07 at 02:40 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/2/07, Dirard Mikdad <dmikdad@math.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:
> > I save the following code in a file, say tt.tex.
> > Then I just run texec tt.tex.
> > It compiles. The problem is that the universal arrow  is not displayed
> > as it should; i.e. a dotted arrow.
> >
> > ---
> > \input xy
> > \xyoption{all}
> > \starttext
> > \startformula
> > \xymatrix{
> > & W \ar[dr]^{f_2} \ar@{.>}[d]_{f} \ar[dl]_{f_1} &&\\
> >  X & X \times Y  \ar[l]_{p_1} \ar[r]^{p_2} &  Y }
> > \stopformula
> > \stoptext
> > ---
> 
> %%
> %% put a space between \ar and @
> %%
> \input xy
> \xyoption{all}
> \starttext
> \startformula
> \xymatrix{
>  & W \ar[dr]^{f_2} \ar @{.>}[d]_{f} \ar[dl]_{f_1} &&\\
>  X & X \times Y  \ar[l]_{p_1} \ar[r]^{p_2} &  Y }
> \stopformula
> \stoptext
> 
> Maybe there is a clean solution.
> 
> -- 
> luigi
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* Re: XYPic
  2007-05-02 14:20             ` XYPic Dirard Mikdad
  2007-05-02 15:05               ` XYPic luigi scarso
@ 2007-05-04  0:17               ` luigi scarso
  2007-05-04 12:57                 ` XYPic Dirard Mikdad
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On 5/2/07, Dirard Mikdad <dmikdad@math.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:
> I save the following code in a file, say tt.tex.
> Then I just run texec tt.tex.
> It compiles. The problem is that the universal arrow  is not displayed
> as it should; i.e. a dotted arrow.
>
> ---
> \input xy
> \xyoption{all}
> \starttext
> \startformula
> \xymatrix{
> & W \ar[dr]^{f_2} \ar@{.>}[d]_{f} \ar[dl]_{f_1} &&\\
>  X & X \times Y  \ar[l]_{p_1} \ar[r]^{p_2} &  Y }
> \stopformula
> \stoptext
> ---

%%
%% put a space between \ar and @
%%
\input xy
\xyoption{all}
\starttext
\startformula
\xymatrix{
 & W \ar[dr]^{f_2} \ar @{.>}[d]_{f} \ar[dl]_{f_1} &&\\
 X & X \times Y  \ar[l]_{p_1} \ar[r]^{p_2} &  Y }
\stopformula
\stoptext

Maybe there is a clean solution.

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* Re: XYPic
  2007-05-02 16:31                   ` XYPic luigi scarso
@ 2007-05-03  6:39                     ` luigi scarso
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hmm, some problem with \ar@.
Maybe a collision with another macro of context.
I will investigate
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* Re: XYPic
  2007-05-02 15:16                 ` XYPic Dirard Mikdad
@ 2007-05-02 16:31                   ` luigi scarso
  2007-05-03  6:39                     ` XYPic luigi scarso
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On 5/2/07, Dirard Mikdad <dmikdad@math.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:
> I don't use LaTeX either. This code comes from my thesis which I wrote
> in plain TeX.
>
> Save the following code in a file:
> --
> \input xy
> \xyoption{all}
> \xyoption{dvips}
> $$
> \xymatrix{
> & W \ar[dr]^{f_2} \ar@{.>}[d]_{f} \ar[dl]_{f_1} &&\\
>  X & X \times Y  \ar[l]_{p_1} \ar[r]^{p_2} &  Y }
>  $$
>  \bye
> --
> Then run tex file.
ok, thanks.
I will look into this night

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* Re: XYPic
  2007-05-02 15:05               ` XYPic luigi scarso
@ 2007-05-02 15:16                 ` Dirard Mikdad
  2007-05-02 16:31                   ` XYPic luigi scarso
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I don't use LaTeX either. This code comes from my thesis which I wrote
in plain TeX.

Save the following code in a file:
--
\input xy
\xyoption{all}
\xyoption{dvips}
$$
\xymatrix{
& W \ar[dr]^{f_2} \ar@{.>}[d]_{f} \ar[dl]_{f_1} &&\\
 X & X \times Y  \ar[l]_{p_1} \ar[r]^{p_2} &  Y }
 $$
 \bye
--
Then run tex file.

Dirard

* On 02/05/07 at 17:06 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/2/07, Dirard Mikdad <dmikdad@math.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:
> > I save the following code in a file, say tt.tex.
> > Then I just run texec tt.tex.
> yes, ok
> How did you used to compile it under LaTeX ? (sorry, I don't use latex
> from a long time)
> 
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* Re: XYPic
  2007-05-02 14:20             ` XYPic Dirard Mikdad
@ 2007-05-02 15:05               ` luigi scarso
  2007-05-02 15:16                 ` XYPic Dirard Mikdad
  2007-05-04  0:17               ` XYPic luigi scarso
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On 5/2/07, Dirard Mikdad <dmikdad@math.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:
> I save the following code in a file, say tt.tex.
> Then I just run texec tt.tex.
yes, ok
How did you used to compile it under LaTeX ? (sorry, I don't use latex
from a long time)

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* Re: XYPic
  2007-05-02  8:57           ` XYPic luigi scarso
@ 2007-05-02 14:20             ` Dirard Mikdad
  2007-05-02 15:05               ` XYPic luigi scarso
  2007-05-04  0:17               ` XYPic luigi scarso
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I save the following code in a file, say tt.tex.
Then I just run texec tt.tex.
It compiles. The problem is that the universal arrow  is not displayed
as it should; i.e. a dotted arrow.

---
\input xy
\xyoption{all}
\starttext
\startformula
\xymatrix{
& W \ar[dr]^{f_2} \ar@{.>}[d]_{f} \ar[dl]_{f_1} &&\\
 X & X \times Y  \ar[l]_{p_1} \ar[r]^{p_2} &  Y }
\stopformula
\stoptext
---

Dirard

* On 02/05/07 at 11:30 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/2/07, Dirard Mikdad <dmikdad@math.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:
> > There seems to be something wrong with the dotted arrows.
> > I tried different codes.
> >
> > The following code compiles.
> > ---
> > \input xy
> > \xyoption{all}
> > \starttext
> > \startformula
> > \xymatrix{
> > & W \ar[dr]^{f_2} \ar@{.>}[d]_{f} \ar[dl]_{f_1} &&\\
> >  X & X \times Y  \ar[l]_{p_1} \ar[r]^{p_2} &  Y }
> > \stopformula
> > \stoptext
> > ---
> 
> 
> How doy you compile it under LaTeX (or TeX) ?
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* Re: XYPic
  2007-05-02  8:14         ` XYPic Dirard Mikdad
@ 2007-05-02  8:57           ` luigi scarso
  2007-05-02 14:20             ` XYPic Dirard Mikdad
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On 5/2/07, Dirard Mikdad <dmikdad@math.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:
> There seems to be something wrong with the dotted arrows.
> I tried different codes.
>
> The following code compiles.
> ---
> \input xy
> \xyoption{all}
> \starttext
> \startformula
> \xymatrix{
> & W \ar[dr]^{f_2} \ar@{.>}[d]_{f} \ar[dl]_{f_1} &&\\
>  X & X \times Y  \ar[l]_{p_1} \ar[r]^{p_2} &  Y }
> \stopformula
> \stoptext
> ---


How doy you compile it under LaTeX (or TeX) ?
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* Re: XYPic
  2007-05-01 19:45       ` XYPic luigi scarso
@ 2007-05-02  8:14         ` Dirard Mikdad
  2007-05-02  8:57           ` XYPic luigi scarso
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There seems to be something wrong with the dotted arrows. 
I tried different codes.

The following code compiles. 
---
\input xy
\xyoption{all}
\starttext
\startformula
\xymatrix{
& W \ar[dr]^{f_2} \ar@{.>}[d]_{f} \ar[dl]_{f_1} &&\\
 X & X \times Y  \ar[l]_{p_1} \ar[r]^{p_2} &  Y }
\stopformula
\stoptext
---

Dirard

* On 01/05/07 at 22:10 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote:
> hmm, try this
> 
> \input xy
> \xyoption{all}
> \unprotect
> \appendtoks
>   \xywithoption{tips}{\let\tipsize <at>  <at> \bodyfontpoint}%
> \to\everybodyfont
> \protect %\endinput
> % \usemodule[xypic]
> \starttext
> \startformula
> \xymatrix{
> & W \ar[dr]^{f_2} \ar@{.>}[d]_{f} \ar[dl]_{f_1} &&\\
>  X & X \times Y  \ar[l]_{p_1} \ar[r]^{p_2} &  Y }
> \stopformula
> \stoptext
> 
> btw, not sure it works;
> something strange near W in your xymatrix
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* Re: XYPic
  2007-05-01  9:18     ` XYPic Dirard Mikdad
@ 2007-05-01 19:45       ` luigi scarso
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hmm, try this

\input xy
\xyoption{all}
\unprotect
\appendtoks
  \xywithoption{tips}{\let\tipsize <at>  <at> \bodyfontpoint}%
\to\everybodyfont
\protect %\endinput
% \usemodule[xypic]
\starttext
\startformula
\xymatrix{
& W \ar[dr]^{f_2} \ar@{.>}[d]_{f} \ar[dl]_{f_1} &&\\
 X & X \times Y  \ar[l]_{p_1} \ar[r]^{p_2} &  Y }
\stopformula
\stoptext

btw, not sure it works;
something strange near W in your xymatrix
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* Re: XYPic
  2007-05-01  7:09   ` XYPic luigi scarso
@ 2007-05-01  9:18     ` Dirard Mikdad
  2007-05-01 19:45       ` XYPic luigi scarso
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Hi all,

I created a m-xypic.tex file with the code that Luigi suggested.
Then I tried to run texec on my file t.tex, but texec hangs with a message <xymatrix 4x2.

This is the code in t.tex

---
\usemodule[xypic]
\starttext
\startformula
\xymatrix{
& W \ar[dr]^{f_2} \ar@{.>}[d]_{f} \ar[dl]_{f_1} &&\\
X & X \times Y  \ar[l]_{p_1} \ar[r]^{p_2} &  Y }
\stopformula
\stoptext
---

Dirard


* On 01/05/07 at 09:09 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also in
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/5227/focus=5254
> Save following line in m-xypic.tex
> 
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> %m-xypic.tex
> %
> \input xy
> 
> \xyoption{all}
> 
> \unprotect
> 
> \appendtoks
>    \xywithoption{tips}{\let\tipsize <at>  <at> \bodyfontpoint}%
> \to\everybodyfont
> 
> \protect \endinput
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> 
> And in you tex file put before \starttext
> \usemodule[xypic]
> 
> 
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* Re: XYPic
  2007-05-01  6:55 ` XYPic luigi scarso
@ 2007-05-01  7:09   ` luigi scarso
  2007-05-01  9:18     ` XYPic Dirard Mikdad
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Also in
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/5227/focus=5254
Save following line in m-xypic.tex

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%m-xypic.tex
%
\input xy

\xyoption{all}

\unprotect

\appendtoks
   \xywithoption{tips}{\let\tipsize <at>  <at> \bodyfontpoint}%
\to\everybodyfont

\protect \endinput
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

And in you tex file put before \starttext
\usemodule[xypic]


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* Re: XYPic
  2007-04-27 12:46 XYPic Dirard Mikdad
@ 2007-05-01  6:55 ` luigi scarso
  2007-05-01  7:09   ` XYPic luigi scarso
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On 4/27/07, Dirard Mikdad <dmikdad@math.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> I want to convert my thesis (which I wrote in plain tex) to ConTeXt.
> Unfortunately the process fails because my documents contain
> some commutative diagrams made in Xypic. Is it possible to convert xy
> code to something that ConTeXt can understand?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dirard
You can try this
http://search.gmane.org/search.php?group=gmane.comp.tex.context&query=XYPic
There are exemples there.


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* Xypic
@ 2007-04-27 12:49 Dirard Mikdad
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From: Dirard Mikdad @ 2007-04-27 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

Hallo,

I want to convert my thesis (which I wrote in plain tex) to ConTeXt.
Unfortunately the process fails because my documents contain 
some commutative diagrams made in Xypic. Is it possible to convert xy
code to something that ConTeXt can understand?

Thanks,

Dirard

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* XYPic
@ 2007-04-27 12:46 Dirard Mikdad
  2007-05-01  6:55 ` XYPic luigi scarso
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From: Dirard Mikdad @ 2007-04-27 12:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

Hallo,

I want to convert my thesis (which I wrote in plain tex) to ConTeXt.
Unfortunately the process fails because my documents contain 
some commutative diagrams made in Xypic. Is it possible to convert xy
code to something that ConTeXt can understand?

Thanks,

Dirard

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Thread overview: 29+ messages (download: mbox.gz / follow: Atom feed)
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2005-04-24 15:45 Rif: Re: dotted line for \framed ? Luigi Scarso
2005-04-26 15:35 ` luigi.scarso
2005-04-26 18:24   ` XYpic (was: dotted line for \framed ?) Henning Hraban Ramm
2005-04-27 10:18     ` XYpic Vit Zyka
2005-04-28  8:01       ` XYpic luigi.scarso
2005-04-28 10:42         ` XYpic Vit Zyka
2005-04-28 11:02           ` XYpic luigi.scarso
2005-04-28 22:05             ` XYpic Vit Zyka
2005-04-29  7:08               ` XYpic luigi.scarso
2005-04-29  8:21                 ` XYpic Vit Zyka
2005-04-29 10:27                   ` XYpic luigi.scarso
2007-04-27 12:46 XYPic Dirard Mikdad
2007-05-01  6:55 ` XYPic luigi scarso
2007-05-01  7:09   ` XYPic luigi scarso
2007-05-01  9:18     ` XYPic Dirard Mikdad
2007-05-01 19:45       ` XYPic luigi scarso
2007-05-02  8:14         ` XYPic Dirard Mikdad
2007-05-02  8:57           ` XYPic luigi scarso
2007-05-02 14:20             ` XYPic Dirard Mikdad
2007-05-02 15:05               ` XYPic luigi scarso
2007-05-02 15:16                 ` XYPic Dirard Mikdad
2007-05-02 16:31                   ` XYPic luigi scarso
2007-05-03  6:39                     ` XYPic luigi scarso
2007-05-04  0:17               ` XYPic luigi scarso
2007-05-04 12:57                 ` XYPic Dirard Mikdad
2007-05-04 13:25                   ` XYPic luigi scarso
2007-05-14  9:33                     ` XYPic luigi scarso
2007-05-15 12:40                       ` XYPic Dirard M. Mikdad
2007-04-27 12:49 Xypic Dirard Mikdad

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