From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/20263 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Taco Hoekwater Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: INstalling a new version of context Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 11:18:18 +0200 Message-ID: <427F2ADA.8080306@elvenkind.com> References: <20050508100002.AAEAA127B3@ronja.ntg.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1115629956 23333 80.91.229.2 (9 May 2005 09:12:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 09:12:36 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon May 09 11:12:34 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DV4IA-0001AE-Vp for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 May 2005 11:11:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7FD127EB; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:18:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01079-01; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:18:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1776127B9; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:18:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D2A127B9 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:18:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00821-09 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:18:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from glenfiddich.elvenkind.com (elvenknd.xs4all.nl [213.84.171.68]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E102127A2 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:18:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by glenfiddich.elvenkind.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8396B19859; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:18:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from glenfiddich.elvenkind.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (glenfiddich.elvenkind.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01020-05; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:18:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.10.0.6] (glenlivet.elvenkind.com [10.10.0.6]) by glenfiddich.elvenkind.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D77319857; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:18:53 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: skip@interbit.com, mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at elvenkind.net X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:20263 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:20263 bb wrote: > > I think it would be a very useful exercise for hh > to install a complete texlive on a stock fedora box. I'm sure he would be happy to, if you provided the box and some funding (!). Most developers that work on free software miss at least one of the following: * spare hardware * spare disk space * spare operating systems * spare time > Then write down > _every_ step necessary to get beta cont-tmf.zip installed and working. I guess I could conceivably try to do this, as long as I only have to do it once, but I will not be able to provide support for it afterwards. I have a fairly complex TeX setup, and for that reason I do not use texlive. I can try to write down this howto for *current* context beta and *current* pdfetex, but afterwards I have to revert my system back to 'normal operation' immediately, so there is no way for me to keep on helping people after the initial installation. Assuming someone volunteers to pick up supporting context-on-texlive afterwards, then I am willing to write down the initial page. But I do not want to waste a day fighting TeXlive for no good, so unless I hear from someone, I will do nothing. > I would think that targeting texlive as the standard platform for > distributing context on linux/unix would make the most sense. It > should _not_ be necessary to make anything but a trivial change to > texmf.cnf. Have you complained to the TeXlive maintainers as well? After all, they are the distributors. Perhaps they could make it just a bit easier to add stuff to an existing TeXlive install? The upgrade path for any TeXlive basically is: download an update iso image, burn it, and re-install. There is no support for partial upgrades (at least there wasn't last time I looked, which is, admittedly, a few years ago) Taco