* ruby @ 2005-05-11 18:12 Hans Hagen 2005-05-11 19:29 ` ruby Nikolai Weibull 2005-05-12 6:02 ` ruby luigi.scarso 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-05-11 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi, when pondering about some ruby to bin for unix and googling a bit, i ran into: http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/ruby.html amazing stuff, not only rubyscript2exe (cross platform)! Hans (ps. until now i used exerb for making a texmfstart bin) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ruby 2005-05-11 18:12 ruby Hans Hagen @ 2005-05-11 19:29 ` Nikolai Weibull 2005-05-11 21:54 ` ruby Hans Hagen 2005-05-12 6:02 ` ruby luigi.scarso 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Nikolai Weibull @ 2005-05-11 19:29 UTC (permalink / raw) Hans Hagen, May 11: > when pondering about some ruby to bin for unix … Why would you want to do that?, nikolai -- Nikolai Weibull: now available free of charge at http://bitwi.se/! Born in Chicago, IL USA; currently residing in Gothenburg, Sweden. main(){printf(&linux["\021%six\012\0"],(linux)["have"]+"fun"-97);} ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ruby 2005-05-11 19:29 ` ruby Nikolai Weibull @ 2005-05-11 21:54 ` Hans Hagen 2005-05-11 22:10 ` ruby Nikolai Weibull 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-05-11 21:54 UTC (permalink / raw) Nikolai Weibull wrote: > Hans Hagen, May 11: > > >>when pondering about some ruby to bin for unix … > > > Why would you want to do that?, because ruby is not always installed (for some reason distribution do install tons of useless games and all kind of progs whose name i instantly forget, but no forget to install a recent ruby -); it's also handy when one runs from cd Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ruby 2005-05-11 21:54 ` ruby Hans Hagen @ 2005-05-11 22:10 ` Nikolai Weibull 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Nikolai Weibull @ 2005-05-11 22:10 UTC (permalink / raw) Hans Hagen, May 11: > > > when pondering about some ruby to bin for unix … > > Why would you want to do that? > because ruby is not always installed (for some reason distribution do > install tons of useless games and all kind of progs whose name i > instantly forget, but no forget to install a recent ruby -); it's also > handy when one runs from cd Hm, true, nikolai -- Nikolai Weibull: now available free of charge at http://bitwi.se/! Born in Chicago, IL USA; currently residing in Gothenburg, Sweden. main(){printf(&linux["\021%six\012\0"],(linux)["have"]+"fun"-97);} ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ruby 2005-05-11 18:12 ruby Hans Hagen 2005-05-11 19:29 ` ruby Nikolai Weibull @ 2005-05-12 6:02 ` luigi.scarso 2005-05-12 7:01 ` ruby Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: luigi.scarso @ 2005-05-12 6:02 UTC (permalink / raw) Hans Hagen wrote: > Hi, > > when pondering about some ruby to bin for unix and googling a bit, A little off-topic: why ruby and not python ? > i ran into: > > http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/ruby.html > > amazing stuff, not only rubyscript2exe (cross platform)! bookmarked luigi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ruby 2005-05-12 6:02 ` ruby luigi.scarso @ 2005-05-12 7:01 ` Hans Hagen 2005-05-12 9:48 ` Fill pdf forms luigi.scarso 2005-09-19 6:25 ` ruby, Lua, Megapost, tcl, Maurice Diamantini 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-05-12 7:01 UTC (permalink / raw) luigi.scarso wrote: > A little off-topic: why ruby and not python ? - i didn't like those tabs/indentation - ruby's reminded me of modula which i used a (real) lot in the past - ruby has a small footprint - i just like it Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Fill pdf forms 2005-05-12 7:01 ` ruby Hans Hagen @ 2005-05-12 9:48 ` luigi.scarso 2005-09-19 6:25 ` ruby, Lua, Megapost, tcl, Maurice Diamantini 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: luigi.scarso @ 2005-05-12 9:48 UTC (permalink / raw) Looking for some stuff do manage pdf forms,I found this http://search.cpan.org/~clotho/CAM-PDF-0.99/ From http://search.cpan.org/src/CLOTHO/CAM-PDF-0.99/index.html "CAM::PDF is optimized for reading and manipulating existing PDF documents. We use CAM::PDF in production Linux environments to customize template PDF documents that were often created by non-programmers using standard tools." In standard distro there are already fdf2tan.pl and fdf2tex.pl, and after reading spec-fdf I don't understand if they work ( running fdf2tan.pl gives ! Undefined control sequence. <recently read> \annotatepages ). luigi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ruby, Lua, Megapost, tcl, ... 2005-05-12 7:01 ` ruby Hans Hagen 2005-05-12 9:48 ` Fill pdf forms luigi.scarso @ 2005-09-19 6:25 ` Maurice Diamantini 2005-09-19 7:53 ` Hans Hagen ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Maurice Diamantini @ 2005-09-19 6:25 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Maurice Diamantini Le 12 mai 05 à 09:01, Hans Hagen a écrit : > > luigi.scarso wrote: >> A little off-topic: why ruby and not python ? > > - i didn't like those tabs/indentation > - ruby's reminded me of modula which i used a (real) lot in the past > - ruby has a small footprint > - i just like it > > Hans I agree with the previous points. Also ruby is available in most of the operating systems but ... then Giuseppe Bilotta wrote (~ 18 sept 2005) > > Perl, Ruby, Lua ... what next? What about Lua, Adding one more dependency to ConTeXt make it more difficult to install and maintain. So what is the advantage of luo in conTeXt instead of ruby? -- Maurice ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ruby, Lua, Megapost, tcl, ... 2005-09-19 6:25 ` ruby, Lua, Megapost, tcl, Maurice Diamantini @ 2005-09-19 7:53 ` Hans Hagen 2005-09-19 8:11 ` Hans Hagen 2005-09-19 8:16 ` Taco Hoekwater 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-09-19 7:53 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Maurice Diamantini Maurice Diamantini wrote: > What about Lua, Adding one more dependency to ConTeXt make it > more difficult to install and maintain. > So what is the advantage of luo in conTeXt instead of ruby? perl, python, ruby are 'huge', and distributing them with tex is a problem; lua is 'made for embedding' and adds less that 100k to the binary: lean and mean; i love ruby, but it's a big machinery. Anyway, once we have lua in place, there will also be an api to tex's internals; when that is done, interfacing to ruby should be no problem. Maybe our next project will then be a .tex (dot tex) framework -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ruby, Lua, Megapost, tcl, ... 2005-09-19 6:25 ` ruby, Lua, Megapost, tcl, Maurice Diamantini 2005-09-19 7:53 ` Hans Hagen @ 2005-09-19 8:11 ` Hans Hagen 2005-09-19 8:22 ` luigi.scarso 2005-09-19 8:16 ` Taco Hoekwater 2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-09-19 8:11 UTC (permalink / raw) Maurice Diamantini wrote: > What about Lua, Adding one more dependency to ConTeXt make it > more difficult to install and maintain. btw, it's not a dependency: lua will be 'always pesent in the binary' and since we nowadays only have one binary ... also, my guess is that adding it to aleph is easy ok, secret link: http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/luatex.pdf Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ruby, Lua, Megapost, tcl, ... 2005-09-19 8:11 ` Hans Hagen @ 2005-09-19 8:22 ` luigi.scarso 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: luigi.scarso @ 2005-09-19 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw) Hans Hagen wrote: > > btw, it's not a dependency: lua will be 'always pesent in the binary' > and since we nowadays only have one binary ... also, my guess is that > adding it to aleph is easy > > ok, secret link: http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/luatex.pdf > FANTASTIC!! It's what I want. I always think about embedding python; but now this can be a private project . luigi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ruby, Lua, Megapost, tcl, ... 2005-09-19 6:25 ` ruby, Lua, Megapost, tcl, Maurice Diamantini 2005-09-19 7:53 ` Hans Hagen 2005-09-19 8:11 ` Hans Hagen @ 2005-09-19 8:16 ` Taco Hoekwater 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2005-09-19 8:16 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Maurice Diamantini Hi Maurice, Maurice Diamantini wrote: > > What about Lua, Adding one more dependency to ConTeXt make it > more difficult to install and maintain. > So what is the advantage of luo in conTeXt instead of ruby? Lua will not be 'in context', but 'in pdftex': the lua library will be integrated in the executable, as a true extension language that can be used besides and interleaved with TeX's normal syntax. Lua is probably the best language for this sort thing, because its code is small and very easy to extend/embed. On the user side of things, nothing will change compared to the current 'update your pdftex release' stuff. Using LuaTeX will eventually probably mean extra functionality, but the most likely sort-term result is a gain in processing speed, because the in-line scripting can reduce the number of needed TeX runs. Greetings, Taco ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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