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* Latest version + itemize
@ 2005-06-06  8:01 Thomas A. Schmitz
  2005-06-06  8:11 ` Taco Hoekwater
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2005-06-06  8:01 UTC (permalink / raw)


The latest version (2005.06.03) seems to break some features of the  
itemize-environment. I can't get any of the converions 1-8 to work.  
Here's a minimal example:

\starttext
\startitemize[2]
\item one
\item two
\stopitemize
\stoptext

For [1] and [2], I get empty boxes instead of a bullet and an em- 
dash, for other values, I get errors:

! Math formula deleted: Insufficient symbol fonts.
\@@ss::medcircle ...e \onepoint \hbox {$\bigcirc $
                                                   }}
\dodosymbol ...bol \csname \??ss :#1:#2\endcsname
                                                   \relax }\relax
\dosymbol ...fnosymbol \redosymbol \currentsymbol
                                                   \fi \fi
<to be read again>
! Math formula deleted: Insufficient symbol fonts.
\@@ss::medcircle ...e \onepoint \hbox {$\bigcirc $
                                                   }}
\dodosymbol ...bol \csname \??ss :#1:#2\endcsname
                                                   \relax }\relax
\dosymbol ...fnosymbol \redosymbol \currentsymbol
                                                   \fi \fi
<to be read again>
                    \relax
\dodosymbol ...name \??ss :#1:#2\endcsname \relax
                                                   }\relax
\dosymbol ...fnosymbol \redosymbol \currentsymbol
                                                   \fi \fi
...
l.16 \item {
             \em Ovide moralisé} (mittelalterliche Allegorisierung  
der {\em ...

?
Process aborted
dodosymbol ...name \??ss :#1:#2\endcsname \relax
                                                   }\relax
\dosymbol ...fnosymbol \redosymbol \currentsymbol
                                                   \fi \fi
...
l.14 \item

Not sure what is causing this behavior, but the same document  
compiles fine with older versions.

Best

Thomas

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* Re: Latest version + itemize
  2005-06-06  8:01 Latest version + itemize Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2005-06-06  8:11 ` Taco Hoekwater
  2005-06-06  8:44   ` Lutz Haseloff
  2005-06-06  9:04   ` Thomas A. Schmitz
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2005-06-06  8:11 UTC (permalink / raw)



Hi,

This example works OK for me. This error is related to math fonts,
so you should have seen an error about a missing font somewhere
before this (possibly during the texexec --make phase)

My guess is that there probably is a problem with kpathsea finding
map/tfm files. Are you sure you have run texhash/mktexlsr/updatedb
after upgrading?

Taco

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> The latest version (2005.06.03) seems to break some features of the  
> itemize-environment. I can't get any of the converions 1-8 to work.  
> Here's a minimal example:
> 
> \starttext
> \startitemize[2]
> \item one
> \item two
> \stopitemize
> \stoptext
> 
> For [1] and [2], I get empty boxes instead of a bullet and an em- dash, 
> for other values, I get errors:
> 
> ! Math formula deleted: Insufficient symbol fonts.
> \@@ss::medcircle ...e \onepoint \hbox {$\bigcirc $
>                                                   }}
> \dodosymbol ...bol \csname \??ss :#1:#2\endcsname
>                                                   \relax }\relax
> \dosymbol ...fnosymbol \redosymbol \currentsymbol
>                                                   \fi \fi
> <to be read again>
> ! Math formula deleted: Insufficient symbol fonts.
> \@@ss::medcircle ...e \onepoint \hbox {$\bigcirc $
>                                                   }}
> \dodosymbol ...bol \csname \??ss :#1:#2\endcsname
>                                                   \relax }\relax
> \dosymbol ...fnosymbol \redosymbol \currentsymbol
>                                                   \fi \fi
> <to be read again>
>                    \relax
> \dodosymbol ...name \??ss :#1:#2\endcsname \relax
>                                                   }\relax
> \dosymbol ...fnosymbol \redosymbol \currentsymbol
>                                                   \fi \fi
> ...
> l.16 \item {
>             \em Ovide moralisé} (mittelalterliche Allegorisierung  der 
> {\em ...
> 
> ?
> Process aborted
> dodosymbol ...name \??ss :#1:#2\endcsname \relax
>                                                   }\relax
> \dosymbol ...fnosymbol \redosymbol \currentsymbol
>                                                   \fi \fi
> ...
> l.14 \item
> 
> Not sure what is causing this behavior, but the same document  compiles 
> fine with older versions.
> 
> Best
> 
> Thomas_______________________________________________
> ntg-context mailing list
> ntg-context@ntg.nl
> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

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* Re: Latest version + itemize
  2005-06-06  8:11 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2005-06-06  8:44   ` Lutz Haseloff
  2005-06-06  9:07     ` Taco Hoekwater
  2005-06-06  9:04   ` Thomas A. Schmitz
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Lutz Haseloff @ 2005-06-06  8:44 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi all,


Taco Hoekwater schrieb:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This example works OK for me. This error is related to math fonts,
> so you should have seen an error about a missing font somewhere
> before this (possibly during the texexec --make phase)
> 
> My guess is that there probably is a problem with kpathsea finding
> map/tfm files. Are you sure you have run texhash/mktexlsr/updatedb
> after upgrading?
> 
> Taco
> 

I have the same Problem, but f.i.:

\definetypeface [palatino] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default] [encoding=ec]
\definetypeface [palatino] [mm] [math]  [palatino] [default] [encoding=ec]
\setupbodyfont  [palatino, 12pt, rm]

works and:

\usetypescript [lucida] [texnansi]
\setupbodyfont [lucida, 12pt, rm]

doesn't.

No error at texexec --make.

Greetings Lutz

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* Re: Latest version + itemize
  2005-06-06  8:11 ` Taco Hoekwater
  2005-06-06  8:44   ` Lutz Haseloff
@ 2005-06-06  9:04   ` Thomas A. Schmitz
  2005-06-06  9:13     ` Taco Hoekwater
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2005-06-06  9:04 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hmm, when I have \startitemize[2], the symbol should be an emdash, so  
no math-font should be involved, right? And yes, I did run texhash  
after upgrading (it's run by texexec --make automagically, isn't  
it?). And as I said: my laptop has an older version and compiles the  
same file without a hitch.

Thanks Taco

Best

Thomas

On Jun 6, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> This example works OK for me. This error is related to math fonts,
> so you should have seen an error about a missing font somewhere
> before this (possibly during the texexec --make phase)
>
> My guess is that there probably is a problem with kpathsea finding
> map/tfm files. Are you sure you have run texhash/mktexlsr/updatedb
> after upgrading?
>
> Taco
>
> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
>> The latest version (2005.06.03) seems to break some features of  
>> the  itemize-environment. I can't get any of the converions 1-8 to  
>> work.  Here's a minimal example:
>> \starttext
>> \startitemize[2]
>> \item one
>> \item two
>> \stopitemize
>> \stoptext
>> For [1] and [2], I get empty boxes instead of a bullet and an em-  
>> dash, for other values, I get errors:
>> ! Math formula deleted: Insufficient symbol fonts.
>> \@@ss::medcircle ...e \onepoint \hbox {$\bigcirc $
>>                                                   }}
>> \dodosymbol ...bol \csname \??ss :#1:#2\endcsname
>>                                                   \relax }\relax
>> \dosymbol ...fnosymbol \redosymbol \currentsymbol
>>                                                   \fi \fi
>> <to be read again>
>> ! Math formula deleted: Insufficient symbol fonts.
>> \@@ss::medcircle ...e \onepoint \hbox {$\bigcirc $
>>                                                   }}
>> \dodosymbol ...bol \csname \??ss :#1:#2\endcsname
>>                                                   \relax }\relax
>> \dosymbol ...fnosymbol \redosymbol \currentsymbol
>>                                                   \fi \fi
>> <to be read again>
>>                    \relax
>> \dodosymbol ...name \??ss :#1:#2\endcsname \relax
>>                                                   }\relax
>> \dosymbol ...fnosymbol \redosymbol \currentsymbol
>>                                                   \fi \fi
>> ...
>> l.16 \item {
>>             \em Ovide moralisé} (mittelalterliche Allegorisierung   
>> der {\em ...
>> ?
>> Process aborted
>> dodosymbol ...name \??ss :#1:#2\endcsname \relax
>>                                                   }\relax
>> \dosymbol ...fnosymbol \redosymbol \currentsymbol
>>                                                   \fi \fi
>> ...
>> l.14 \item
>> Not sure what is causing this behavior, but the same document   
>> compiles fine with older versions.
>> Best
>> Thomas_______________________________________________
>> ntg-context mailing list
>> ntg-context@ntg.nl
>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>
> _______________________________________________
> ntg-context mailing list
> ntg-context@ntg.nl
> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>

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* Re: Latest version + itemize
  2005-06-06  8:44   ` Lutz Haseloff
@ 2005-06-06  9:07     ` Taco Hoekwater
  2005-06-06 10:00       ` Lutz Haseloff
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2005-06-06  9:07 UTC (permalink / raw)



On my system,

> \definetypeface [palatino] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default] [encoding=ec]
> \definetypeface [palatino] [mm] [math]  [palatino] [default] [encoding=ec]
> \setupbodyfont  [palatino, 12pt, rm]

This fails because I do not have ec-pplXXX metrics installed,

> \usetypescript [lucida] [texnansi]
> \setupbodyfont [lucida, 12pt, rm]

and this works because it is basically a no-op (cmsy10 is used)

So perhaps not a map file, but a typescript loading error.  Can you
check your log for the loading of type-exa?


Taco

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* Re: Latest version + itemize
  2005-06-06  9:04   ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2005-06-06  9:13     ` Taco Hoekwater
  2005-06-06  9:25       ` Taco Hoekwater
  2005-06-06  9:38       ` Lutz Haseloff
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2005-06-06  9:13 UTC (permalink / raw)




Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> Hmm, when I have \startitemize[2], the symbol should be an emdash, so  
> no math-font should be involved, right? And yes, I did run texhash  
> after upgrading (it's run by texexec --make automagically, isn't  it?). 
> And as I said: my laptop has an older version and compiles the  same 
> file without a hitch.

Something became messed up during your (and Lutz') upgrade. The trick
is figuring out what ;) I am quite confident that a clean context
install does the right thing, because that's precisely what I did
yesterday, and I have no problems. Perhaps you can send me the log
files of the texexec --make (cont-en.log) and this test file?


Taco

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* Re: Latest version + itemize
  2005-06-06  9:13     ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2005-06-06  9:25       ` Taco Hoekwater
  2005-06-08 17:06         ` Thomas A. Schmitz
  2005-06-06  9:38       ` Lutz Haseloff
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2005-06-06  9:25 UTC (permalink / raw)



I just realized something else that could be wrong: did you guys
fix you texmf.cnf for engine support after upgrading? If not,
then you are perhaps still using the old formats but with the
new runtime files.

[taco@glenlivet tmp]$ texexec --version

  TeXExec 5.4.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005

                texexec : TeXExec 5.4.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
                texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
                    tex : pdfeTeXk, 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3)
                context : ver: 2005.06.03
                cont-en : ver: 2005.06.03  fmt: 2005.6.6  mes: english
                cont-nl : ver: 2005.06.03  fmt: 2005.6.6  mes: dutch

         total run time : 3 seconds


Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
> 
> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> 
>> Hmm, when I have \startitemize[2], the symbol should be an emdash, so  
>> no math-font should be involved, right? And yes, I did run texhash  
>> after upgrading (it's run by texexec --make automagically, isn't  
>> it?). And as I said: my laptop has an older version and compiles the  
>> same file without a hitch.
> 
> 
> Something became messed up during your (and Lutz') upgrade. The trick
> is figuring out what ;) I am quite confident that a clean context
> install does the right thing, because that's precisely what I did
> yesterday, and I have no problems. Perhaps you can send me the log
> files of the texexec --make (cont-en.log) and this test file?
> 
> 
> Taco
> _______________________________________________
> ntg-context mailing list
> ntg-context@ntg.nl
> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

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* Re: Latest version + itemize
  2005-06-06  9:13     ` Taco Hoekwater
  2005-06-06  9:25       ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2005-06-06  9:38       ` Lutz Haseloff
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Lutz Haseloff @ 2005-06-06  9:38 UTC (permalink / raw)


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Taco Hoekwater schrieb:
> 
> 
> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> 
>> Hmm, when I have \startitemize[2], the symbol should be an emdash, so  
>> no math-font should be involved, right? And yes, I did run texhash  
>> after upgrading (it's run by texexec --make automagically, isn't  
>> it?). And as I said: my laptop has an older version and compiles the  
>> same file without a hitch.
> 
> 
> Something became messed up during your (and Lutz') upgrade. The trick
> is figuring out what ;) I am quite confident that a clean context
> install does the right thing, because that's precisely what I did
> yesterday, and I have no problems. Perhaps you can send me the log
> files of the texexec --make (cont-en.log) and this test file?

attached

> 
> Taco
> _______________________________________________
> ntg-context mailing list
> ntg-context@ntg.nl
> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
> 

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* Re: Latest version + itemize
  2005-06-06  9:07     ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2005-06-06 10:00       ` Lutz Haseloff
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From: Lutz Haseloff @ 2005-06-06 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi Taco, Hi all,


Taco Hoekwater schrieb:
> 
> On my system,
> 
>> \definetypeface [palatino] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default] 
>> [encoding=ec]
>> \definetypeface [palatino] [mm] [math]  [palatino] [default] 
>> [encoding=ec]
>> \setupbodyfont  [palatino, 12pt, rm]
> 
> 
> This fails because I do not have ec-pplXXX metrics installed,
> 
>> \usetypescript [lucida] [texnansi]
>> \setupbodyfont [lucida, 12pt, rm]
> 
> 
> and this works because it is basically a no-op (cmsy10 is used)
> 
> So perhaps not a map file, but a typescript loading error.  Can you
> check your log for the loading of type-exa?
> 

I found an error. Texexec complains about font lbms not found.
(not cmsy)
When i add a line "lbms LucidaNewMath-Symbol < LBMS.pfb" to
texnansi-bh-lucida.map the error is gone.
Are my *.map-files out of date?

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Thank you for your help

Greetings

Lutz

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* Re: Latest version + itemize
  2005-06-06  9:25       ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2005-06-08 17:06         ` Thomas A. Schmitz
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2005-06-08 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)


Just wanted to mention that I'm back to my box with the latest  
ConTeXt. Uncommenting the line

\resetmapfiles \usetypescript [map] [base] [all]

and commenting everything else in the \resetmapfiles-department  
appears to have fixed all my troubles in OS X. Let's see if htings  
continue to work. Thanks to everybody, especially to Taco.

Best

Thomas

On Jun 6, 2005, at 11:25 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

>
> I just realized something else that could be wrong: did you guys
> fix you texmf.cnf for engine support after upgrading? If not,
> then you are perhaps still using the old formats but with the
> new runtime files.
>
> [taco@glenlivet tmp]$ texexec --version
>
>  TeXExec 5.4.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
>
>                texexec : TeXExec 5.4.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE  
> 1997-2005
>                texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE  
> 1992-2004
>                    tex : pdfeTeXk, 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3)
>                context : ver: 2005.06.03
>                cont-en : ver: 2005.06.03  fmt: 2005.6.6  mes: english
>                cont-nl : ver: 2005.06.03  fmt: 2005.6.6  mes: dutch
>
>         total run time : 3 seconds
>
>
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm, when I have \startitemize[2], the symbol should be an  
>>> emdash, so  no math-font should be involved, right? And yes, I  
>>> did run texhash  after upgrading (it's run by texexec --make  
>>> automagically, isn't  it?). And as I said: my laptop has an older  
>>> version and compiles the  same file without a hitch.
>>>
>> Something became messed up during your (and Lutz') upgrade. The trick
>> is figuring out what ;) I am quite confident that a clean context
>> install does the right thing, because that's precisely what I did
>> yesterday, and I have no problems. Perhaps you can send me the log
>> files of the texexec --make (cont-en.log) and this test file?
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