From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/21148 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Re: Confusion with font instructions Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:28:04 +0200 Message-ID: <42C95584.2000703@wxs.nl> References: <20050704103304.25666@mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120490907 21874 80.91.229.2 (4 Jul 2005 15:28:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Jul 04 17:28:19 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpSra-0001GB-BB for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:28:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D67127E3; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:28:01 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07513-04; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:27:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9230127D4; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:27:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1193A127D4 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:27:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07512-05-4 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:27:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailrelay02.solcon.nl (maillb.solcon.nl [212.45.32.200]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5F0127D2 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:27:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from server-1.pragma-net.nl (dsl-212-84-128-085.solcon.nl [212.84.128.85]) by mailrelay02.solcon.nl (8.12.11/SQL-8.12.11-5/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64FRpIK022387 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:27:51 +0200 Original-Received: by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 2EC601A19D; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:52:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.53] (unknown [10.100.1.53]) by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB22918EF2 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:52:34 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <20050704103304.25666@mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85.1, clamav-milter version 0.85 on mailrelay02 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on smtp.ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:21148 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:21148 Adam Lindsay wrote: > Sadly, that page relies on type-pre, which is deprecated! > (Yes, the situation changes again.) hm, i can enable that one again, but will not give guarantees (some fonts have changed, for instance antikwa and we now have proper encoding support for latin modern so all those other things should go otherwise they will interfere; which ones from type-pre are used? > So, the situation should now be: > > % Times, Helvetica, Courier: > \usetypescript [adobekb] [\defaultencoding] % default=ec > \usetypescript [postscript][\defaultencoding] > \setupbodyfont [postscript] > > % or, for Times, Helvetica, and Latin Modern TT: > \usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding] > \usetypescript [times] [\defaultencoding] > \setupbodyfont [times] > > % or, for Palatino & Latin Modern TT: > \usetypescript [adobekb] [\defaultencoding] > \usetypescript [palatino] [\defaultencoding] > \setupbodyfont [palatino] > > The situation is "dynamic" because, to Hans's increasing frustration, > the font files that get distributed change with just about every release > of tetex (which gwTeX is mostly based on) or TeXLive. indeed; the only way out is to have an additional zip with font files (something that we discussed last ntg meeting); for instance, - say that you want verbatim - and use ec encoding - and use kb names - and don't want --- ligatures and such .... impossible (with the current tex, less impossible with the next release of pdftex) .. so, you switch to texnansi - for which there are kb names - but metrics are never shipped - so you need to generate them with texfont - and then *not* load the kn typescripts etc etc. it's just impossible to keep up with feature requests (fonts, languages, backends) and at the same time be compatible with the way latex users are accustomed to it cq. latex changes dealing with fonts cq. distributions keep changing (so guess why i only use tex font generated metrics) > Anyway, I hope this helps in the short term! 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