From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/21429 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Radhelorn Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: "Escaping" tabulate Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 23:21:34 +0400 Message-ID: <42DAAFBE.8040009@mail.ru> References: <42D66D7F.9080207@mail.ru> <91CFE71B-D646-4D03-A382-F8652DBF3F16@fiee.net> <42D795B4.9050001@mail.ru> <42D7C01B.9030908@wxs.nl> <42D7E09F.4070008@mail.ru> <42D7F05B.8070908@mail.ru> <42DAA4DF.4000500@creutzig.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1121627810 25658 80.91.229.2 (17 Jul 2005 19:16:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Jul 17 21:16:46 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DuEci-00069D-OR for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:16:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E9A127B7; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:16:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22365-03; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:16:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E8E12797; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:16:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D34F12797 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:16:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22256-05 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:16:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D4612783 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:16:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [217.106.91.40] (port=33450 helo=[172.16.6.173]) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1DuEcZ-000MXK-00 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 23:16:16 +0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <42DAA4DF.4000500@creutzig.de> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on smtp.ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:21429 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:21429 Christopher Creutzig wrote: > Radhelorn wrote: > >> Oh, thanks. Can you describe in a few words distinction between {} and >> \bgroup\egroup? I know that \bgroup\egroup are "implicit characters" >> and useful in macro definitions but what this really means? > > > You can have > > \def\startfoo{\bgroup} > \def\stopfoo{\egroup} > > but you cannot get the same effect with > > \def\startfoo{{} > \def\stopfoo{}} > Thanks. Clear and simple answer. > > I believe in ConTeXt you'd usually(?) use \start and \stop instead of > \bgroup and \egroup, though. What do the experts say about this? > > I've seen \start \stop pairs in some examples, but there are so many of them in sources that I can not find their definition. -- Radhelorn