* Using latex font-packages
@ 2005-08-09 8:42 Kai Militzer
2005-08-09 10:39 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Kai Militzer @ 2005-08-09 8:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello list,
I am trying to use latex fonts (to be more precize: the allrunes font)
downloaded from the ctan-ftp-Server and installed correctly in my
texmf-tree, in context, but I now realise that it does not work as easy
as I expected (i.e. just using the latex-commands).
If anyone could help me or point me in the right direction how to do it,
I would be very thankful, as I have a deadline at the end of the week at
which it has to work ;)
Best regards
Kai
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* Re: Using latex font-packages
2005-08-09 8:42 Using latex font-packages Kai Militzer
@ 2005-08-09 10:39 ` Hans Hagen
2005-08-09 12:18 ` Kai Militzer
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-08-09 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai Militzer wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I am trying to use latex fonts (to be more precize: the allrunes font)
> downloaded from the ctan-ftp-Server and installed correctly in my
> texmf-tree, in context, but I now realise that it does not work as
> easy as I expected (i.e. just using the latex-commands).
>
> If anyone could help me or point me in the right direction how to do
> it, I would be very thankful, as I have a deadline at the end of the
> week at which it has to work ;)
what files do those fonts come with:
tfm vf afm pfb enc map
forget about the latex macros, they are not needed
Hans
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* Re: Using latex font-packages
2005-08-09 10:39 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2005-08-09 12:18 ` Kai Militzer
2005-08-09 15:03 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Kai Militzer @ 2005-08-09 12:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello Hans,
thanks for the fast answer!
>> I am trying to use latex fonts (to be more precize: the allrunes
>> font) downloaded from the
>
>
> what files do those fonts come with:
>
> tfm vf afm pfb enc map
I have 16 different .tfm files. But also a lot of .mf files.
> forget about the latex macros, they are not needed
OK, but how do I get context to use these fonts? I coulnd't find any
descent documentation regarding this.
Regards
Kai
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* Re: Using latex font-packages
2005-08-09 12:18 ` Kai Militzer
@ 2005-08-09 15:03 ` Hans Hagen
2005-08-09 16:32 ` Kai Militzer
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-08-09 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai Militzer wrote:
> Hello Hans,
>
> thanks for the fast answer!
>
>>> I am trying to use latex fonts (to be more precize: the allrunes
>>> font) downloaded from the
>>
>>
>>
>> what files do those fonts come with:
>>
>> tfm vf afm pfb enc map
>
>
> I have 16 different .tfm files. But also a lot of .mf files.
>
>> forget about the latex macros, they are not needed
>
>
> OK, but how do I get context to use these fonts? I coulnd't find any
> descent documentation regarding this.
i can only locate pfb files and a map file; it looks like one is
supposed to generate the tfm's with metafont (maybe you can ask the
author to put the tfm's in the zip as well) and i'm not going to clobber
my ststem with bitmaps
it comes down to:
\loadmapfile[allrunes.map]
\showfont[frucls]
\showfont[frucln]
\showfont[fruclr]
\showfont[fruclt]
\showfont[fruclm]
\showfont[fruclq]
this should give you something (given that the tfm files are present)
if that works, you can do:
\definefont[somerunes][frucls sa 1]
\somerunes abcdef
or, depending on how the fonts are organized you can set up a system
(see type-* files)
Hans
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* Re: Using latex font-packages
2005-08-09 15:03 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2005-08-09 16:32 ` Kai Militzer
2005-08-09 17:51 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Kai Militzer @ 2005-08-09 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello Hans,
Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>> I am trying to use latex fonts (to be more precize: the allrunes
>>>> font) downloaded from the
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> what files do those fonts come with:
>>>
>>> tfm vf afm pfb enc map
>>
>>
>>
>> I have 16 different .tfm files. But also a lot of .mf files.
>>
>>> forget about the latex macros, they are not needed
>>
>>
>>
>> OK, but how do I get context to use these fonts? I coulnd't find any
>> descent documentation regarding this.
>
>
> i can only locate pfb files and a map file; it looks like one is
> supposed to generate the tfm's with metafont (maybe you can ask the
> author to put the tfm's in the zip as well) and i'm not going to
> clobber my ststem with bitmaps
>
> it comes down to:
>
> \loadmapfile[allrunes.map]
>
> \showfont[frucls]
> \showfont[frucln]
> \showfont[fruclr]
> \showfont[fruclt]
> \showfont[fruclm]
> \showfont[fruclq]
>
> this should give you something (given that the tfm files are present)
> if that works, you can do:
> \definefont[somerunes][frucls sa 1]
>
> \somerunes abcdef
> or, depending on how the fonts are organized you can set up a system
> (see type-* files)
I'm slowly getting there, only two more problems to solve ;) The first
thing is, that to use some of the characters in the fontset I have to
use \th to display them, but I have no idea how to accomplish that in
context as everytime I use \somerunes \th, or \somerunes{\th} ... I get
an error message. If i double mascerade it like \\th i get the symbols
for the characters t and h. I am sure there is a way to get this working.
The next thing, which I guess is to search more on the font-subsystem of
context, is the fact that I only get my characters displayed when
viewing the .dvi-file with xdvi. When executing texexec --pdf or using
dvipdf (or dvips) I get nothing, or the charaters in the standard
latin-typeset (i.e. ASCII).
I am sorry if I bother you all with this simple stuff that can surely be
solved by reading some documentation, but I pretty new to the hole
tex-thing and the mass of documentation is overwhelming and sometimes
prety cryptical. ;)
Best regards
Kai
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* Re: Using latex font-packages
2005-08-09 16:32 ` Kai Militzer
@ 2005-08-09 17:51 ` Hans Hagen
2005-08-09 18:23 ` Kai Militzer
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-08-09 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai Militzer wrote:
> I'm slowly getting there, only two more problems to solve ;) The first
> thing is, that to use some of the characters in the fontset I have to
> use \th to display them, but I have no idea how to accomplish that in
> context as everytime I use \somerunes \th, or \somerunes{\th} ... I
> get an error message. If i double mascerade it like \\th i get the
> symbols for the characters t and h. I am sure there is a way to get
> this working.
>
> The next thing, which I guess is to search more on the font-subsystem
> of context, is the fact that I only get my characters displayed when
> viewing the .dvi-file with xdvi. When executing texexec --pdf or using
> dvipdf (or dvips) I get nothing, or the charaters in the standard
> latin-typeset (i.e. ASCII).
>
> I am sorry if I bother you all with this simple stuff that can surely
> be solved by reading some documentation, but I pretty new to the hole
> tex-thing and the mass of documentation is overwhelming and sometimes
> prety cryptical. ;)
how does your code look?
can you send me a zip with the tfm files?
Hans
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* Re: Using latex font-packages
2005-08-09 17:51 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2005-08-09 18:23 ` Kai Militzer
2005-08-09 19:36 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2005-08-09 20:48 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Kai Militzer @ 2005-08-09 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello Hans,
>> I'm slowly getting there, only two more problems to solve ;) The
>> first thing is, that to use some of the characters in the fontset I
>> have to use \th to display them, but I have no idea how to accomplish
>> that in context as everytime I use \somerunes \th, or \somerunes{\th}
>> ... I get an error message. If i double mascerade it like \\th i get
>> the symbols for the characters t and h. I am sure there is a way to
>> get this working.
>>
>> The next thing, which I guess is to search more on the font-subsystem
>> of context, is the fact that I only get my characters displayed when
>> viewing the .dvi-file with xdvi. When executing texexec --pdf or
>> using dvipdf (or dvips) I get nothing, or the charaters in the
>> standard latin-typeset (i.e. ASCII).
>
I solved the second problem. I copied the map and type1 fonts into the
directories mentioned in the readme to the font (which where
latex-specific). After looking at the texexec output and some try and
error, I finaly got all working. So if I now do a texexec --pdf I get a
pdf-file with the font included.
> how does your code look?
That is my code for testing (nothing more in there, the following is the
whole document)
\setuppapersize[a4][a4]
\starttext
\startbodymatter
\loadmapfile[allrunes.map]
\definefont[somerunes][frumbr sa 1]
\somerunes{\\th} % This is where the problem lies. I need to get the
\th working to produce a rune
\stopbodymatter
\stoptext
> can you send me a zip with the tfm files?
I guess you don't need it any more, as the font-inclusion is working
now. If you still need it drop me a line.
Regards
Kai
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* Re: Using latex font-packages
2005-08-09 18:23 ` Kai Militzer
@ 2005-08-09 19:36 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2005-08-09 20:45 ` Kai Militzer
2005-08-09 20:48 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2005-08-09 19:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
It looks like you need to write an runes-enco-file for your font for
these character names to work. I haven't followed this thread very
closely, but maybe chapter 3 of the MyWay on Greek fonts can help
you: http://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/GreekInContext.pdf
Best
Thomas
On Aug 9, 2005, at 8:23 PM, Kai Militzer wrote:
> Hello Hans,
>
>
>>> I'm slowly getting there, only two more problems to solve ;) The
>>> first thing is, that to use some of the characters in the fontset
>>> I have to use \th to display them, but I have no idea how to
>>> accomplish that in context as everytime I use \somerunes \th, or
>>> \somerunes{\th} ... I get an error message. If i double mascerade
>>> it like \\th i get the symbols for the characters t and h. I am
>>> sure there is a way to get this working.
>>>
>>> The next thing, which I guess is to search more on the font-
>>> subsystem of context, is the fact that I only get my characters
>>> displayed when viewing the .dvi-file with xdvi. When executing
>>> texexec --pdf or using dvipdf (or dvips) I get nothing, or the
>>> charaters in the standard latin-typeset (i.e. ASCII).
>>>
>>
>>
> I solved the second problem. I copied the map and type1 fonts into
> the directories mentioned in the readme to the font (which where
> latex-specific). After looking at the texexec output and some try
> and error, I finaly got all working. So if I now do a texexec --pdf
> I get a pdf-file with the font included.
>
>
>> how does your code look?
>>
>
> That is my code for testing (nothing more in there, the following
> is the whole document)
>
> \setuppapersize[a4][a4]
> \starttext
> \startbodymatter
> \loadmapfile[allrunes.map]
> \definefont[somerunes][frumbr sa 1]
> \somerunes{\\th} % This is where the problem lies. I need to get
> the \th working to produce a rune
> \stopbodymatter
> \stoptext
>
>
>> can you send me a zip with the tfm files?
>>
>
> I guess you don't need it any more, as the font-inclusion is
> working now. If you still need it drop me a line.
>
> Regards
> Kai
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* Re: Using latex font-packages
2005-08-09 19:36 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2005-08-09 20:45 ` Kai Militzer
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From: Kai Militzer @ 2005-08-09 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello!
Thanks for all who helped me, but I finaly solved the problem. I define
glyphs for the characters I want like that
\definesymbol [thorn] [\getglyph{frumbr}{\char254}]
and then simply use \symbol[thorn] in the text ...
Looking back I have to say that it's done pretty quick, if one know how
to do it. ;)
If I get a moment of spare time the next days I will add an entry to the
wiki for the ones coming after me and having the same problem. ;)
Regards
Kai
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* Re: Using latex font-packages
2005-08-09 18:23 ` Kai Militzer
2005-08-09 19:36 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2005-08-09 20:48 ` Hans Hagen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-08-09 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai Militzer wrote:
> Hello Hans,
>
>>> I'm slowly getting there, only two more problems to solve ;) The
>>> first thing is, that to use some of the characters in the fontset I
>>> have to use \th to display them, but I have no idea how to
>>> accomplish that in context as everytime I use \somerunes \th, or
>>> \somerunes{\th} ... I get an error message. If i double mascerade it
>>> like \\th i get the symbols for the characters t and h. I am sure
>>> there is a way to get this working.
>>>
>>> The next thing, which I guess is to search more on the
>>> font-subsystem of context, is the fact that I only get my characters
>>> displayed when viewing the .dvi-file with xdvi. When executing
>>> texexec --pdf or using dvipdf (or dvips) I get nothing, or the
>>> charaters in the standard latin-typeset (i.e. ASCII).
>>
>>
> I solved the second problem. I copied the map and type1 fonts into the
> directories mentioned in the readme to the font (which where
> latex-specific). After looking at the texexec output and some try and
> error, I finaly got all working. So if I now do a texexec --pdf I get
> a pdf-file with the font included.
>
>> how does your code look?
>
>
> That is my code for testing (nothing more in there, the following is
> the whole document)
>
> \setuppapersize[a4][a4]
> \starttext
> \startbodymatter
> \loadmapfile[allrunes.map]
> \definefont[somerunes][frumbr sa 1]
> \somerunes{\\th} % This is where the problem lies. I need to get the
> \th working to produce a rune
isn't \somerunes abcdef
producing something then?
what is \th (or this \\) meant to do?
> \stopbodymatter
> \stoptext
>
>> can you send me a zip with the tfm files?
>
>
> I guess you don't need it any more, as the font-inclusion is working
> now. If you still need it drop me a line.
just send it
Hans
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