* \placelist disturbs grid?
@ 2005-08-03 21:30 Vit Zyka
2005-08-03 22:16 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Vit Zyka @ 2005-08-03 21:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,
sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high
glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in the
common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting
preserves grid:
---------------------------------------
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid
\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
\starttext
\v Sejba\par
Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:
\placelist[section]
no!
\stoptext
------------------------------------------
I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line setting,
I also tried to
\setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
but without success to lounging on the grid.
Can somebody help me, please?
vit
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* Re: \placelist disturbs grid?
2005-08-03 21:30 \placelist disturbs grid? Vit Zyka
@ 2005-08-03 22:16 ` Hans Hagen
2005-08-04 22:30 ` Vit Zyka
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-08-03 22:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
Vit Zyka wrote:
> Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,
>
> sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high
> glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in the
> common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting
> preserves grid:
>
> ---------------------------------------
> \setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
> \setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
> \setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
> \showgrid
>
> \writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
> \writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
> \writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
>
> \starttext
> \v Sejba\par
> Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:
>
> \placelist[section]
>
> no!
> \stoptext
> ------------------------------------------
> I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line
> setting, I also tried to
> \setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
> but without success to lounging on the grid.
this is the default ratio:
\setupinterlinespace
[height=.72,
depth=.28]
you can change that (as long as it adds up to 1.0)
Hans
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Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
| www.pragma-pod.nl
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* Re: \placelist disturbs grid?
2005-08-03 22:16 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2005-08-04 22:30 ` Vit Zyka
2005-08-05 9:01 ` Hans Hagen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Vit Zyka @ 2005-08-04 22:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hans Hagen wrote:
> Vit Zyka wrote:
>
>> Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,
>>
>> sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high
>> glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in the
>> common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting
>> preserves grid:
>>
>> ---------------------------------------
>> \setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
>> \setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
>> \setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
>> \showgrid
>>
>> \writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
>> \writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
>> \writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
>>
>> \starttext
>> \v Sejba\par
>> Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:
>>
>> \placelist[section]
>>
>> no!
>> \stoptext
>> ------------------------------------------
>> I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line
>> setting, I also tried to
>> \setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
>> but without success to lounging on the grid.
>
>
>
> this is the default ratio:
>
> \setupinterlinespace
> [height=.72,
> depth=.28]
Thank you Hans; after some experimenting I understood:
- height and depth in \setupinterlinespace are baseline-ratio/size of
struts (add description to tex-show)
- some my chars (/,\v S, \tfa, ...) oversized \strut size of any ratio
- list items are typeset with struts (perhaps all alternative)
- only alternative without strut is 'none' with command=\Mycommand def
So I do know how to preserve grid. But I do not know HOW TO TYPESET
\Mycommand TO FIT THE PARAGRAPH WIDTH. It seem it is not in the
restricted horizontal mode and continue on one long line. And another
question/request: can the list distance param (alternative d,...) be
glue instead of skip? For better line fitting.
example:
------------------
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt,height=.77,depth=.23]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid
\setuplist[section]
[style=\tfd,alternative=none,command=\MyListItem]
\def\MyListItem#1#2#3{{\tfb (#1-#2-#3) }}
\starttext
\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
\writetolist[section]{}{And the last one}
\lineskiplimit=-10pt
Line\par
Anothet line of \v Sejba\par
\placelist[section]
\strut %% should be! why?
After list line.
\stoptext
------------------
Vit
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* Re: \placelist disturbs grid?
2005-08-04 22:30 ` Vit Zyka
@ 2005-08-05 9:01 ` Hans Hagen
2005-08-09 15:50 ` Vit Zyka
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-08-05 9:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
Vit Zyka wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> Vit Zyka wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,
>>>
>>> sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high
>>> glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in
>>> the common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting
>>> preserves grid:
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------
>>> \setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
>>> \setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
>>> \setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
>>> \showgrid
>>>
>>> \writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
>>> \writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
>>> \writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>> \v Sejba\par
>>> Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:
>>>
>>> \placelist[section]
>>>
>>> no!
>>> \stoptext
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>> I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line
>>> setting, I also tried to
>>> \setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
>>> but without success to lounging on the grid.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> this is the default ratio:
>>
>> \setupinterlinespace
>> [height=.72,
>> depth=.28]
>
>
> Thank you Hans; after some experimenting I understood:
> - height and depth in \setupinterlinespace are baseline-ratio/size of
> struts (add description to tex-show)
> - some my chars (/,\v S, \tfa, ...) oversized \strut size of any ratio
> - list items are typeset with struts (perhaps all alternative)
> - only alternative without strut is 'none' with command=\Mycommand def
>
> So I do know how to preserve grid. But I do not know HOW TO TYPESET
> \Mycommand TO FIT THE PARAGRAPH WIDTH. It seem it is not in the
> restricted horizontal mode and continue on one long line. And another
> question/request: can the list distance param (alternative d,...) be
> glue instead of skip? For better line fitting.
>
> example:
> ------------------
> \setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
> \setupinterlinespace[line=12pt,height=.77,depth=.23]
> \setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
> \showgrid
>
> \setuplist[section]
> [style=\tfd,alternative=none,command=\MyListItem]
> \def\MyListItem#1#2#3{{\tfb (#1-#2-#3) }}
>
> \starttext
> \writetolist[section]{}{See the next line}
> \writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
> \writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
> \writetolist[section]{}{And the last one}
>
> \lineskiplimit=-10pt
> Line\par
> Anothet line of \v Sejba\par
>
> \placelist[section]
>
> \strut %% should be! why?
> After list line.
>
> \stoptext
> ------------------
>
> Vit
\setuplist
[section]
[style=\tfd,
alternative=none,
after=\blank,
before=\blank,
command=\MyListItem]
\setuplist
[section]
[style=\tfd,
alternative=command
command=\MyListItem]
in core-lst you can see how the alternatives are defined
ok, let's give you a bonus (goes in cont-new):
\unprotect
\def\definelistplacement
{\dodoubleempty\dodefinelistplacement}
\def\dodefinelistplacement[#1][#2]%
{\setvalue{\@@dodolistelement#1}%
{\doifelsenothing{#2}
{\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement\v!command}}%
{\executeifdefined{\@@dodolistelement#2}
{\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement\v!command}}}%
\setvalue{\??li\currentlist\c!command}%
{\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement::#1}}}%
\setvalue{\@@dodolistelement::#1}}
\definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
{\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) }
\protect
now you can say:
\definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
{\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) }
\setuplist
[section]
[style=\tfd,
alternative=MyListItem,
after=\blank,
before=\blank]
(btw, watch how one can ask for listparameters)
\definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
{\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) }
\setuplist
[section]
[style=\tfd,
alternative=MyListItem,
after=\blank,
before=\blank]
\definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
{\listparameter{before}
\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3)
\listparameter{after}}
Hans
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
| www.pragma-pod.nl
-----------------------------------------------------------------
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* Re: \placelist disturbs grid?
2005-08-05 9:01 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2005-08-09 15:50 ` Vit Zyka
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Vit Zyka @ 2005-08-09 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hans Hagen wrote:
> Vit Zyka wrote:
>
>> Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> Vit Zyka wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,
>>>>
>>>> sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high
>>>> glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in
>>>> the common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting
>>>> preserves grid:
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>> \setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
>>>> \setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
>>>> \setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
>>>> \showgrid
>>>>
>>>> \writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
>>>> \writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
>>>> \writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
>>>>
>>>> \starttext
>>>> \v Sejba\par
>>>> Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:
>>>>
>>>> \placelist[section]
>>>>
>>>> no!
>>>> \stoptext
>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>> I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line
>>>> setting, I also tried to
>>>> \setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
>>>> but without success to lounging on the grid.
>>>
>>>
>>> this is the default ratio:
>>>
>>> \setupinterlinespace
>>> [height=.72,
>>> depth=.28]
>>
>> Thank you Hans; after some experimenting I understood:
>> - height and depth in \setupinterlinespace are baseline-ratio/size of
>> struts (add description to tex-show)
>> - some my chars (/,\v S, \tfa, ...) oversized \strut size of any ratio
>> - list items are typeset with struts (perhaps all alternative)
>> - only alternative without strut is 'none' with command=\Mycommand def
>>
>> So I do know how to preserve grid. But I do not know HOW TO TYPESET
>> \Mycommand TO FIT THE PARAGRAPH WIDTH. It seem it is not in the
>> restricted horizontal mode and continue on one long line. And another
>> question/request: can the list distance param (alternative d,...) be
>> glue instead of skip? For better line fitting.
>>
>> example:
>> ------------------
>> \setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
>> \setupinterlinespace[line=12pt,height=.77,depth=.23]
>> \setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
>> \showgrid
>>
>> \setuplist[section]
>> [style=\tfd,alternative=none,command=\MyListItem]
>> \def\MyListItem#1#2#3{{\tfb (#1-#2-#3) }}
>>
>> \starttext
>> \writetolist[section]{}{See the next line}
>> \writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
>> \writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
>> \writetolist[section]{}{And the last one}
>>
>> \lineskiplimit=-10pt
>> Line\par
>> Anothet line of \v Sejba\par
>>
>> \placelist[section]
>>
>> \strut %% should be! why?
>> After list line.
>>
>> \stoptext
>> ------------------
>>
>> Vit
Hallo hans, thank you for your code. I find it in my mail box just today
although it is 4 days old. So apologise me.
Unfortunately it seems to me it
A) does not work
after successfull
\definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
{\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) }
\MyListItem is not defined.
B) does not solve the problem with a single long line list alternative.
But. Your example discovered me there are few more alternative in
\setuplist (except a..f, none):
horizontal
vertical
command
So your example leads me to find the solution. I still do not know how
to insert interaction to page number inside \MyListCommand. I have tried
\def\MyListCommand#1#2#3{%
#1-#2-%
\setbox0\hbox{#3}% \showcontrastlocation\??ia{??}{#3}}%
\linklisttoelement{subsection}{??}{#3}{\box0}%
)}
}
but I am puzzled by \linklisttoelement parameters.
Thnak ones more
Vit
Solution:
----------------------
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt,height=.77,depth=.23]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid
\setuplist[part]
[style=\bfb,alternative=command,command=\MyListCommand,before=\blank,after=\endgraf]
\setuplist[chapter]
[style=\bfb,alternative=command,command=\MyListCommand,before=\blank,after=\endgraf]
\setuplist[section]
[style=\tfa,alternative=command,command=\MyListCommand]
\def\MyListCommand#1#2#3{%
\listparameter{before}%
{\listparameter{style}(#1-#2-#3)}\hskip1em plus.5em minus.5em
\listparameter{after}%
}
\starttext
\writetolist[part]{1}{Part 1}
\writetolist[chapter]{1}{Chapter 1}
\writetolist[section]{1}{See the next line}
\writetolist[section]{2}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{3}{Another list line}
\expanded{\writetolist[section]{}{And the last line.}}
\writetolist[chapter]{2}{Chapter 2}
\writetolist[section]{1}{Section 1}
\lineskiplimit=-\maxdimen
Line\par
Another line of \v Sejba\par
\placecontent
\strut
After list.
\stoptext
-------------------------------
>
>
> \setuplist
> [section]
> [style=\tfd,
> alternative=none,
> after=\blank,
> before=\blank,
> command=\MyListItem]
>
> \setuplist
> [section]
> [style=\tfd,
> alternative=command
> command=\MyListItem]
>
> in core-lst you can see how the alternatives are defined
> ok, let's give you a bonus (goes in cont-new):
> \unprotect
> \def\definelistplacement
> {\dodoubleempty\dodefinelistplacement}
>
> \def\dodefinelistplacement[#1][#2]%
> {\setvalue{\@@dodolistelement#1}%
> {\doifelsenothing{#2}
> {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement\v!command}}%
> {\executeifdefined{\@@dodolistelement#2}
> {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement\v!command}}}%
> \setvalue{\??li\currentlist\c!command}%
> {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement::#1}}}%
> \setvalue{\@@dodolistelement::#1}}
>
> \definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
> {\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) }
>
> \protect
> now you can say:
> \definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
> {\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) }
>
> \setuplist
> [section]
> [style=\tfd,
> alternative=MyListItem,
> after=\blank,
> before=\blank]
>
> (btw, watch how one can ask for listparameters)
> \definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
> {\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) }
>
> \setuplist
> [section]
> [style=\tfd,
> alternative=MyListItem,
> after=\blank,
> before=\blank]
>
> \definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
> {\listparameter{before}
> \listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) \listparameter{after}}
>
>
>
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