alpha version

alpha version

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

For those interested in sorting registers ...

... the alpha release has sort-* files in it.

For the moment you need to load:

  \readfile{sort-ini}{}{}

After that

mainlanguage[sl]

\starttext
    test \index {aa1}  test \index {ab1}         test \index {aa2}
    test \index {ab2}  test \index {aa10}        test \index {aa8}
    test \index {aa9}  test \index {aa11}        test \index {aa10}
    test \index {cccc} test \index {\ccaron ccc} test \index {\cacute ccc}
    test \index {caaa} test \index {\ccaron aaa} test \index {\cacute aaa}
    \placeindex
\stoptext

will adapt itself to the language. Sort orders are defined in sort-lan.tex. 

You need to run 'newtexexec' (ruby reimplementation of texexec), which uses the texutil module/class instead of the program (faster). 

The reimplementation of texutil permits user plugins and such (more about that later).

I need more info on sort order about for instance czech and german and ...  

Hans 

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Re: alpha version

[Vit Zyka]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> For those interested in sorting registers ...

OK, I am very interesting. Now I set aside some time to help with Cz part.

> ... the alpha release has sort-* files in it.

I looked at it. Seems that basic sorting rules can be set by macro, more 
difficult by Rubu module, right? Let start with macro.

I derrived test file from your example. The only difference is that I 
replace \ccaron by č in IL2 and put \enableregime[IL2] to very 
beginning. Seems such char is not recognized by sorting rules. What is 
wrong?

I see there are 4 macros. I guess their meaning:

\exportsortrule {zacron}{z+1} ... replaces two lines:
   \exportsortexpansion {ccaron}  {cz} ... char to string replacement
   \exportsortdivision  {cz}  {ccaron} ... reverse

\exportsortreduction{ch}{c} ... second pass replacement ???
   if I want 'ch' be sorted between 'h' and 'i' so I do
   \exportsortreduction{ch}{h+1} ??

vit

> For the moment you need to load:
> 
>  \readfile{sort-ini}{}{}
> 
> After that
> 
> mainlanguage[sl]
> 
> \starttext
>    test \index {aa1}  test \index {ab1}         test \index {aa2}
>    test \index {ab2}  test \index {aa10}        test \index {aa8}
>    test \index {aa9}  test \index {aa11}        test \index {aa10}
>    test \index {cccc} test \index {\ccaron ccc} test \index {\cacute ccc}
>    test \index {caaa} test \index {\ccaron aaa} test \index {\cacute aaa}
>    \placeindex
> \stoptext
> 
> will adapt itself to the language. Sort orders are defined in sort-lan.tex.
> You need to run 'newtexexec' (ruby reimplementation of texexec), which 
> uses the texutil module/class instead of the program (faster).
> The reimplementation of texutil permits user plugins and such (more 
> about that later).
> 
> I need more info on sort order about for instance czech and german and ... 
> Hans
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>              Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
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Re: alpha version

[Vit Zyka]

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Hi, I just add the test code for sorting. It demonstrates different 
behaviour for
a) \ccaron
b) \v c
c) č
I expected both b) and c) cases expand to \ccaron under il2 regime.
Or there is some miss in my configuration?

vit

Vit Zyka wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> For those interested in sorting registers ...
> 
> 
> OK, I am very interesting. Now I set aside some time to help with Cz part.
> 
>> ... the alpha release has sort-* files in it.
> 
> 
> I looked at it. Seems that basic sorting rules can be set by macro, more 
> difficult by Rubu module, right? Let start with macro.
> 
> I derrived test file from your example. The only difference is that I 
> replace \ccaron by č in IL2 and put \enableregime[IL2] to very 
> beginning. Seems such char is not recognized by sorting rules. What is 
> wrong?
> 
> I see there are 4 macros. I guess their meaning:
> 
> \exportsortrule {zacron}{z+1} ... replaces two lines:
>   \exportsortexpansion {ccaron}  {cz} ... char to string replacement
>   \exportsortdivision  {cz}  {ccaron} ... reverse
> 
> \exportsortreduction{ch}{c} ... second pass replacement ???
>   if I want 'ch' be sorted between 'h' and 'i' so I do
>   \exportsortreduction{ch}{h+1} ??
> 
> vit
> 
>> For the moment you need to load:
>>
>>  \readfile{sort-ini}{}{}
>>
>> After that
>>
>> mainlanguage[sl]
>>
>> \starttext
>>    test \index {aa1}  test \index {ab1}         test \index {aa2}
>>    test \index {ab2}  test \index {aa10}        test \index {aa8}
>>    test \index {aa9}  test \index {aa11}        test \index {aa10}
>>    test \index {cccc} test \index {\ccaron ccc} test \index {\cacute ccc}
>>    test \index {caaa} test \index {\ccaron aaa} test \index {\cacute aaa}
>>    \placeindex
>> \stoptext
>>
>> will adapt itself to the language. Sort orders are defined in 
>> sort-lan.tex.
>> You need to run 'newtexexec' (ruby reimplementation of texexec), which 
>> uses the texutil module/class instead of the program (faster).
>> The reimplementation of texutil permits user plugins and such (more 
>> about that later).
>>
>> I need more info on sort order about for instance czech and german and 
>> ... Hans
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>                                          Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
>>              Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
>>     tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
>>                                             | www.pragma-pod.nl
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ntg-context mailing list
>> ntg-context@ntg.nl
>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>
> 

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Re: alpha version; sorting

[Vit Zyka]

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Hi,

I am going back
to sorting thread...

(http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050812.082425.f0643027.html)

Do you think, Hans, that sorting will work even if
\enableregime[some-regime]?

It seems that until now if some input char expands to e.g. ccaron, 
sorting rules crashes.

Zipped minimal example is also attached.

vit

------------------------------------
\mainlanguage[cz]
\enableregime[il2]

\readfile{sort-ini}{}{}

\startmode[sortorder-cz]
     \exportsortrule {ccaron}  {c+1}
\stopmode

\starttext
Sorting:
\index{ča}
\index{\v cb}
\index{\ccaron c}

\placeindex[n=3]
\stoptext
------------------------------------

Vit Zyka wrote:
> Hi, I just add the test code for sorting. It demonstrates different 
> behaviour for
> a) \ccaron
> b) \v c
> c) č
> I expected both b) and c) cases expand to \ccaron under il2 regime.
> Or there is some miss in my configuration?
> 
> vit
> 
> Vit Zyka wrote:
> 
>> Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> For those interested in sorting registers ...
>>
>>
>>
>> OK, I am very interesting. Now I set aside some time to help with Cz 
>> part.
>>
>>> ... the alpha release has sort-* files in it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I looked at it. Seems that basic sorting rules can be set by macro, 
>> more difficult by Rubu module, right? Let start with macro.
>>
>> I derrived test file from your example. The only difference is that I 
>> replace \ccaron by č in IL2 and put \enableregime[IL2] to very 
>> beginning. Seems such char is not recognized by sorting rules. What is 
>> wrong?
>>
>> I see there are 4 macros. I guess their meaning:
>>
>> \exportsortrule {zacron}{z+1} ... replaces two lines:
>>   \exportsortexpansion {ccaron}  {cz} ... char to string replacement
>>   \exportsortdivision  {cz}  {ccaron} ... reverse
>>
>> \exportsortreduction{ch}{c} ... second pass replacement ???
>>   if I want 'ch' be sorted between 'h' and 'i' so I do
>>   \exportsortreduction{ch}{h+1} ??
>>
>> vit
>>
>>> For the moment you need to load:
>>>
>>>  \readfile{sort-ini}{}{}
>>>
>>> After that
>>>
>>> mainlanguage[sl]
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>>    test \index {aa1}  test \index {ab1}         test \index {aa2}
>>>    test \index {ab2}  test \index {aa10}        test \index {aa8}
>>>    test \index {aa9}  test \index {aa11}        test \index {aa10}
>>>    test \index {cccc} test \index {\ccaron ccc} test \index {\cacute 
>>> ccc}
>>>    test \index {caaa} test \index {\ccaron aaa} test \index {\cacute 
>>> aaa}
>>>    \placeindex
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> will adapt itself to the language. Sort orders are defined in 
>>> sort-lan.tex.
>>> You need to run 'newtexexec' (ruby reimplementation of texexec), 
>>> which uses the texutil module/class instead of the program (faster).
>>> The reimplementation of texutil permits user plugins and such (more 
>>> about that later).
>>>
>>> I need more info on sort order about for instance czech and german 
>>> and ... Hans
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>                                          Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
>>>              Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
>>>     tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
>>>                                             | www.pragma-pod.nl
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ntg-context mailing list
>>> ntg-context@ntg.nl
>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>>
>>
> 

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Re: Re: alpha version; sorting

[Hans Hagen]

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Vit Zyka wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am going back
> to sorting thread...
>
> (http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050812.082425.f0643027.html)
>
> Do you think, Hans, that sorting will work even if
> \enableregime[some-regime]?
>
> It seems that until now if some input char expands to e.g. ccaron, 
> sorting rules crashes.
>
> Zipped minimal example is also attached.
>

the rules go into sort-lan.tex !

\startmode[sortorder-cz]
    \exportsortrule {ccaron}  {c+1}
    \exportsortreduction{ch}{c}
\stopmode

you also need more defs in sort-def; files attached 

Hans 

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Re: Re: alpha version; sorting

[Vit Zyka]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> Vit Zyka wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am going back
>> to sorting thread...
>>
>> (http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050812.082425.f0643027.html)
>>
>> Do you think, Hans, that sorting will work even if
>> \enableregime[some-regime]?
>>
>> It seems that until now if some input char expands to e.g. ccaron, 
>> sorting rules crashes.
>>
>> Zipped minimal example is also attached.
>>
> 
> the rules go into sort-lan.tex !
> 
> \startmode[sortorder-cz]
>    \exportsortrule {ccaron}  {c+1}
>    \exportsortreduction{ch}{c}
> \stopmode
> 
> you also need more defs in sort-def; files attached

Thank you for actualized sort-*.tex files. Unfortunatelly it is not 
clear from your example how to write the rules for direct accent letters 
like "č". Never mind I have tried

   \exportsortshortcut{č} {\ccaron}

and it works; well that is step ahead. But, this description is encoding 
dependent. Is it intended or there is another secret trick to go around 
or the rule should be written for each encoding?

vit

alpha version

[Martin Kolařík]

Hi Hans,

I have:

----
This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11a-2.1 (Web2c 7.5.2) 
 %&-line parsing enabled.
 (d:/TeX/texmf/web2c/cp8bit.tcx)
-----

in Win32.

I made current alpha version efmt, it was OK, but after trying to typeset some text (I did not tested anyone else) pdfetex failed with general protection failure (a memory cannot be read).

The document is UTF8 XML, the failure occured (see >>HERE<<):

-----
specials       : fdf loaded
)
specials       : fdf,tpd loaded
encoding       : coding default
encoding       : coding il2

>>HERE<<

)
color          : system rgb is global activated
-----

I did not try yet to experiment with removing some code from the last included (my) file (inside context of this file the afilure occurred), maybe I will find more information.

Have a nice day,

Martin