From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/22174 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Taco Hoekwater Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Upgrading ConTeXt and testing Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:01:23 +0200 Message-ID: <4312CEE3.4020306@elvenkind.com> References: <431B3E5E@webmail.colostate.edu> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1125306287 24478 80.91.229.2 (29 Aug 2005 09:04:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Aug 29 11:04:37 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E9fYK-00073W-Di for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:03:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C32127BE; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:03:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17327-03; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:03:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC28F127BD; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:01:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F519127BD for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:01:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16877-06 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:01:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from glenfiddich.elvenkind.com (elvenknd.xs4all.nl [213.84.171.68]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA3A127B9 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:01:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by glenfiddich.elvenkind.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE81418352 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:01:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from glenfiddich.elvenkind.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (glenfiddich.elvenkind.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19943-04 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:01:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.10.0.6] (glenlivet.elvenkind.com [10.10.0.6]) by glenfiddich.elvenkind.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5844315213 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:01:24 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <431B3E5E@webmail.colostate.edu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at elvenkind.net X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on smtp.ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:22174 Archived-At: Hi Idris (and all), Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: > When a new ConTeXt is released, Taco or someone else could then document which > bugs are fixed, features added, and, most importantly, what features are > changed or broken. Whenever someone reports a problem, the release notes on the wiki enable me to quickly look up changes in the code (to check for possible regression errors). It has saved me a lot of time in the last half year or so. But the release notes is not enough, we are aware of that. Three other projects in the pipeline are: * A read-only CVS containing as many of the old ConTeXt releases as we can find, for reference and regression checks. This cannot be started immediately because we first have to collect all of the old zips, so they can be imported in the correct order. (assigned to Patrick and me) * A limited-access CVS with Hans' current working sources, so that some of the active developers can apply patches themselves (assigned to Hans) * A test suite, precisely as you proposed (not assigned to anybody yet ) The best way to boot this project is to request/create a project on Fabrice Popineau's gforge/subversion server: https://foundry.supelec.fr/ (we intend to use the same gforge server for the read-only CVS) > A related point (disussed before) is that ConTeXt needs to become completely > independent of the TeX distributions. mswincontext.zip is a good start (I no > longer use fpTeX), but things like dvipdfmx and the plain format (for testing > purposes) need to be thoroughly supported and tested. Yeah, I very much agree. Here is the run-down on last night's problem: Hans does not ship lang-us.pat, probably because someone told him not to (that sort of stuff is a whole different story). What happens then is that context's file synonym mechanism tries to find a replacement file for lang-us.pat. I do not have ushyphmax.tex installed, so on my system, that means ushyph.tex, and it works fine. But apparently (sometimes? dependant on install options perhaps?) miktex ships a ushyphmax.tex. And a broken one, at that. It took most of yesterday-evening to discover that. :-( > Again, a support team > for Hans is needed (especially for Mac OSX and Unix), and I'm willing to help > as far as my skills will allow. Lately, we get a lot of bug reports for miktex, which is problematic since none of us use miktex: I believe Hans has a fptex-ish system, and most other 'core' people are either linux or macintosh based. A volunteer for miktex would be brilliant (even better: someone who knows how to compile miktex executables). Greetings, Taco