From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/22180 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Upgrading ConTeXt and testing Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:04:26 +0800 Message-ID: <431307DA.1010909@wxs.nl> References: <431B3E5E@webmail.colostate.edu> <4312CEE3.4020306@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1125321037 4067 80.91.229.2 (29 Aug 2005 13:10:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Aug 29 15:10:35 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E9jNY-00036s-12 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:08:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B8E1278E; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:08:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02866-01; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:08:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08149127BB; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:04:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FB0127A0 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:04:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26254-06-2 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:04:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailrelay01.solcon.nl (maillb.solcon.nl [212.45.32.200]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E22312791 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:04:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from server-1.pragma-net.nl (dsl-212-84-128-085.solcon.nl [212.84.128.85]) by mailrelay01.solcon.nl (8.12.11/SQL-8.12.11-5/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7TD4Fc5012787 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:04:15 +0200 Original-Received: by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id C053C19420; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:13:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.15] (unknown [10.100.1.15]) by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466F717A84 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:13:36 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <4312CEE3.4020306@elvenkind.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.2, clamav-milter version 0.86 on mailrelay01 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on smtp.ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:22180 Archived-At: Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > Hi Idris (and all), > > Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: > >> When a new ConTeXt is released, Taco or someone else could then >> document which bugs are fixed, features added, and, most importantly, >> what features are changed or broken. > > > Whenever someone reports a problem, the release notes on the wiki > enable me to quickly look up changes in the code (to check for > possible regression errors). It has saved me a lot of time in the > last half year or so. > > But the release notes is not enough, we are aware of that. Three > other projects in the pipeline are: > > * A read-only CVS containing as many of the old ConTeXt releases as > we can find, for reference and regression checks. subversion -) i'll set that up as soon as possible and taco can mirror that (interesting experiment anyway, mirroring a svn archive) we can use fabrices gforce archive if needed > This cannot be started immediately because we first have to collect > all of the old zips, so they can be imported in the correct order. > (assigned to Patrick and me) -) > * A limited-access CVS with Hans' current working sources, so that > some of the active developers can apply patches themselves > (assigned to Hans) indeed; i'll open a svn repository for that with access for approved dev's > * A test suite, precisely as you proposed (not assigned to anybody > yet ) > The best way to boot this project is to request/create a project > on Fabrice Popineau's gforge/subversion server: > https://foundry.supelec.fr/ indeed > (we intend to use the same gforge server for the read-only CVS) > right >> A related point (disussed before) is that ConTeXt needs to become >> completely independent of the TeX distributions. mswincontext.zip is >> a good start (I no longer use fpTeX), but things like dvipdfmx and >> the plain format (for testing purposes) need to be thoroughly >> supported and tested. > > > Yeah, I very much agree. Here is the run-down on last night's > problem: > > Hans does not ship lang-us.pat, probably because someone told him > not to (that sort of stuff is a whole different story). What > happens then is that context's file synonym mechanism tries to > find a replacement file for lang-us.pat. > > I do not have ushyphmax.tex installed, so on my system, that means > ushyph.tex, and it works fine. But apparently (sometimes? dependant > on install options perhaps?) miktex ships a ushyphmax.tex. And a > broken one, at that. It took most of yesterday-evening to discover > that. :-( sigh, what a mess; so, we set up a repository for that as well: context -> sources (copy from one of our internal servers) history generic patterns distribution manuals (copy from one of our internal servers) >> Again, a support team for Hans is needed (especially for Mac OSX and >> Unix), and I'm willing to help as far as my skills will allow. > > > Lately, we get a lot of bug reports for miktex, which is problematic > since none of us use miktex: I believe Hans has a fptex-ish system, > and most other 'core' people are either linux or macintosh based. > A volunteer for miktex would be brilliant (even better: someone who > knows how to compile miktex executables). yeah, i have to pick up that thread, since newtexexec needs to be miktex aware; Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------