From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/22770 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Taco Hoekwater Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Beta bib module release Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:50:36 +0200 Message-ID: <433BFF3C.1060705@elvenkind.com> References: <433942FD.50903@elvenkind.com> <433B9073.3030704@elvenkind.com> <814CE5C7-8AA1-4197-B150-ADE9D399546D@uni-bonn.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1128005642 29778 80.91.229.2 (29 Sep 2005 14:54:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Sep 29 16:53:52 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EKzk8-0005Sh-1O for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:50:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93251127F1; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:50:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24143-02; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:50:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D5F12799; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:50:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00F912799 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:50:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24124-02 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:50:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from glenfiddich.elvenkind.com (elvenknd.xs4all.nl [213.84.171.68]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B3F12795 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:50:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by glenfiddich.elvenkind.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2E91B454 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:50:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from glenfiddich.elvenkind.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (glenfiddich.elvenkind.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31137-06 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:50:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.10.0.6] (glenlivet.elvenkind.com [10.10.0.6]) by glenfiddich.elvenkind.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207BB182F0 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:50:25 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <814CE5C7-8AA1-4197-B150-ADE9D399546D@uni-bonn.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at elvenkind.net X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on smtp.ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:22770 Archived-At: Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > Hi Taco, > > disregard most of what I wrote yesterday: most of your new module is > working fine, thanks so much! Haven't tested the new features yet, but > will very soon. I'm especially thrilled by the \cite[right=] command > and hope it works! > > One major (but probably easy-to-fix) problem is that your wonderfully > clear syntax {}{} isn't working anymore. > Here's an example. I have this line in my setup for books: > \insertseries{ (}{), }{, }% > which used to work: if the entry has information about the series, put > it in parentheses and append a comma, if it doesn't, just put the > comma. With the new module, I get an extra (), after every title, and > the same is true for other constructs. I have found this bug, and uploaded a new beta: http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/m-bib-beta-20050929.zip The output here looks a whole lot better now. > One question: in the parsed bbl file, the bibtex field "address" is > translated into "city," "publisher" into "pubname," and "year" into > "pubyear." Is there a reason for this? I found it a bit confusing > because you have a macro \insertpublisher which inserts "city, > pubname"; coming from the names in the database, I couldn't figure out > what was happening until I looked at the source. Would it be possible > to just keep the fieldnames as bibtex has them? I did this originally to be compatible with the old context publications macros as well as the base tex definition of \year, and I guess it is no longer safe to change the names now. I bit of a mistake, in hindsight. :-( > As for the vertical spacing problem: depending on the font and the > settings for interlinespace, it is more or less visible. To see a > really clear case, try setting the interlinespace to something really > big like 5ex, then you can see that space within the entries is regular > while space between entries is somewhat smaller. Not over here. with \showgrid on, everything is precisely lined up. That's why I really need an example of what you are doing. Cheers, Taco