New ConTeXt with old teTeX problem?

New ConTeXt with old teTeX problem?

[Michal Kvasnička]

Good evening.

After some time I tried to install the newest ConTeXt over my old teTeX 
in SuSE Linux 9.2. Everything seems to work. I use texexec version 5.4.3 
with ConTeXt version 2005.08.31. ConTeXt gives this warning:
    systems         : pdfTeX version 110 -> please update
    systems         : eTeX version 201 -> too old (bugs)
Then it failes on the minimal file:
    % output=pdf
    \starttext
        text
    \stoptext
and gives this error:
    ! Missing { inserted.
    <to be read again>
                   r
    <argument> \pdfobj r
                    eserveobjnum {}\setxvalue \pdffontresource {\the 
\pdflas...
    \firstofoneargument #1->#1
    <argument> ...tencoding }\to \everybeforeshipout }
                                                  \fi \fi \ifcsname 
\pdffont...
    \firstofoneargument #1->#1
    \doincludepdffontresource ...cludepdffontresource
                                                  \fi
    ...
    l.5 \stoptext

What's the problem? The old pdfetex? How can I upgrade it without 
reinstalling the whole SuSE system? I wouldn't mind to reject the teTeX 
and use Pragma's mimimum TeX distribution, but it does'nt include 
Metafont and I still need some .mf bitmapped fonts.

Can you help me please?
Your sincerely
Michal Kvasnicka

Re: New ConTeXt with old teTeX problem?

[Taco Hoekwater]

Michal Kvasnička wrote:
> Good evening.
> 
> After some time I tried to install the newest ConTeXt over my old teTeX 
> in SuSE Linux 9.2. Everything seems to work. I use texexec version 5.4.3 
> with ConTeXt version 2005.08.31. ConTeXt gives this warning:
>    systems         : pdfTeX version 110 -> please update
>    systems         : eTeX version 201 -> too old (bugs)


> What's the problem? The old pdfetex? How can I upgrade it without 
> reinstalling the whole SuSE system? I wouldn't mind to reject the teTeX 
> and use Pragma's mimimum TeX distribution, but it does'nt include 
> Metafont and I still need some .mf bitmapped fonts.

This page might help:

   http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation

Cheers, Taco

Re: New ConTeXt with old teTeX problem?

[Michal Kvasnička]

Many thanks. I tried it, but make-process failed. It is a long time 
since I last compiled something, so I'm completely lost. Isn't the 
binary package for SuSE 9.2 somewhere on the net? My attempts to find it 
out failed. :-( It looks I will have to upgrade my system. :-(((

> This page might help:
>
>   http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation


Nonetheless, many thanks anyway.
M.K.

Re: New ConTeXt with old teTeX problem?

[VnPenguin]

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On 9/28/05, Michal Kvasnička <quasar@econ.muni.cz> wrote:
> Many thanks. I tried it, but make-process failed. It is a long time
> since I last compiled something, so I'm completely lost. Isn't the
> binary package for SuSE 9.2 somewhere on the net? My attempts to find it
> out failed. :-( It looks I will have to upgrade my system. :-(((
>

Look for RPM package of teTeX 3.0 for SUSE 9.2, normally in update tree.
If not found, you can build teTeX 3.0 from source. It takes me about
10' to have teTeX 3.0 with latest ConTeXt running under Linux Fedora.

Good luck,
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Re: New ConTeXt with old teTeX problem?

[Mojca Miklavec]

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Michal Kvasnička wrote:
> What's the problem? The old pdfetex? How can I upgrade it without
> reinstalling the whole SuSE system? I wouldn't mind to reject the teTeX
> and use Pragma's mimimum TeX distribution, but it does'nt include
> Metafont and I still need some .mf bitmapped fonts.

The official rpms are under ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/ (but you
probably already know that).

If you don't succeed to "make" and if you would like to use teTeX 3.0, try if
    rpm --i tetex-3.0-13.i586.rpm
on ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/suse/i586/tetex-3.0-13.i586.rpm
fails or not. Perhaps you have some luck and it will work. (I just
installed some packeges from an older CD and it worked.) Btw, Suse
10.0 contains not only the latest teTeX, but also the latest ConTeX,
which is a kind of miracle!!!


Minimal distribution doesn't mean that you have to throw the existing
distribution away. It's pretty isolated and works well for most cases
- it usually completely ignores the existing distribution and you can
use the minimal ConTeXt without root/administrator privileges.

All you have to do is to extract the files for minimal distribution to
any folder and run setuptex (each time you go to the shell, but you
can add a line to .[someshell]rc).

... Unless you need metafont for generating your ConTeXt documents.

Mojca

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Re: New ConTeXt with old teTeX problem?

[Hans Hagen Outside]

� wrote:

> Many thanks. I tried it, but make-process failed. It is a long time 
> since I last compiled something, so I'm completely lost. Isn't the 
> binary package for SuSE 9.2 somewhere on the net? My attempts to find 
> it out failed. :-( It looks I will have to upgrade my system. :-(((
>
>> This page might help:
>>
>>   http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation
>
unix distributions are often quite behind with tex; you can try the minimal linux distribution on our web site 

Hans 


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Boxed formula

[Jilani Khaldi]

Hi All,
how to make a boxed formula with ConTeXt?
Thanks!

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Re: Boxed formula

[David Munger]

The way I usually do it:

\startformula
  \mframed[offset=.3em,rulethickness=1pt]{a^2 + b^2 = c^2}
\stopformula

Regards,

David

Le Vendredi 30 septembre 2005 à 13:41 +0200, Jilani Khaldi a écrit :
> Hi All,
> how to make a boxed formula with ConTeXt?
> Thanks!
> 

Re: Boxed formula

[Jilani Khaldi]

David Munger wrote:

>The way I usually do it:
>
>\startformula
>  \mframed[offset=.3em,rulethickness=1pt]{a^2 + b^2 = c^2}
>\stopformula
>  
>
Thank you for your answer. I seems that "\startformula .. \stopformula" 
doesn't have any effect to produce a "dispaly mode" formula.

so:
\startformula
  \mframed[offset=.3em,rulethickness=1pt]{a^2 + b^2 = c^2}
\stopformula

and:

\mframed[offset=.3em,rulethickness=1pt]{a^2 + b^2 = c^2}

give the same result, as in text mode.
Is there a way to get, for example, the output of:

\startformula
I=x-\sqrt2\,arctg\frac{x}{\sqrt2}+C
\stopformula

boxed?
Thank you.

jk

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Re: Boxed formula

[David Munger]

Jilani,


> Thank you for your answer. I seems that "\startformula .. \stopformula" 
> doesn't have any effect to produce a "dispaly mode" formula.

When I try:

\startformula
  \mframed[offset=.3em,rulethickness=1pt]{
    I=x-\sqrt2\,\arctan\frac{x}{\sqrt2}+C}
\stopformula

it does typeset a displayed formula. However, you could still force
displayed style by adding a \displaystyle command at the beginning of
your \mframed argument.

Regards,

David

Re: Boxed formula

[Jilani Khaldi]

>\startformula
>  \mframed[offset=.3em,rulethickness=1pt]{
>    I=x-\sqrt2\,\arctan\frac{x}{\sqrt2}+C}
>\stopformula
>
>it does typeset a displayed formula. However, you could still force
>displayed style by adding a \displaystyle command at the beginning of
>your \mframed argument.
>  
>
That's ok now using \displaystyle. Thank you!
jk

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ISO Latin 2 input under the new ConTeXt

[Michal Kvasnička]

Good evening.

Many thanks to all of you that helped me to install teTeX 3.0. I found 
that I can really use SuSE 9.3 rpms under my SuSE 9.2, which quite 
surprised me. (I can't use Mr. Hagen's minimumdistribution, because 
there is no MetaFont in it, and I still use some bitmapped fonts, e.g. 
Concrete Math).

Now I have to solve the last (I hope so) problem: The Czech encoding. I 
have all my input files in ISO Latin 2 encoding. It was no problem up to 
now because I used fonts with IL2 encoding. What shoud I do now the new 
LM fonts?

(BTW, is it all right that I have to include
    \loadmapfile[psclean.map]
in all my documents? LM fonts are not preloaded, and I can't find in 
teTeX 3.0 pdftex.conf to include it.)

(In the last two years I missed all font-related changes in ConTeXt. 
What manuals should I read to understand how to use ConTeXt properly?)

With many thanks
Michal Kvasnicka

P.S. And by the way, in the future I may need to switch all my inputs 
into UTF8. How can I typeset files like that in the ConTeXt? Many thanks.

Re: ISO Latin 2 input under the new ConTeXt

[Michal Kvasnička]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

>There are two things: input encoding or regime (\enableregime[utf] inyour case) and font 
>  
>
Many thanks, \enableregime did what I needed.

But I still have some minor questions:
1) Where should I put \loadmapfile[psclean.map]? (I can't include it in 
pdftex.cnf, since there is none under my new teTeX 3.0 in SuSE.)
2) Is it a goold idea to place in the same file \enableregime[il2] if 
almost all my documents are typed in this encoding?
3) What is the native ConTeXt font encoding? If I use many different 
fonts (most being reencoded via virtual fonts into IL2 encoding), should 
I reencode them into the native ConTeXt font encoding (whatever it is), 
or can I make ConTeXt work with a different font encoding, perhaps 
different for different fonts? How? How?
4) What documentations for fonts in ConTeXt should I read, and in what 
order?

And I have one (I hope) little plea to Mr. Hagen:
Please, can you add MetaFont to your minimum TeX installation? I would 
like to use it instead of teTeX because it is more flexible. But I still 
use heavily some MetaFont bitmapped fonts. Many thanks anyway.

Your thankful
Michal Kvasnicka

Re: ISO Latin 2 input under the new ConTeXt

[Vit Zyka]

Michal Kvasnička wrote:
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> 
>> There are two things: input encoding or regime (\enableregime[utf] 
>> inyour case) and font  
>>
> Many thanks, \enableregime did what I needed.
> 
> But I still have some minor questions:
> 1) Where should I put \loadmapfile[psclean.map]? (I can't include it in 
> pdftex.cnf, since there is none under my new teTeX 3.0 in SuSE.)

For standard fonts you do not need to include any map file. If you 
really need to incorporate something to format, put it to 
cont-(cz|en).tex or look to the context.tex.

> 2) Is it a goold idea to place in the same file \enableregime[il2] if 
> almost all my documents are typed in this encoding?

My Czech setup for:
   format: cont-en
   input regime: il2
   font|hyphenation encoding: ec

\enableregime[il2]
\mainlanguage[cz]
\loadmapfile[lm.map]

> 3) What is the native ConTeXt font encoding? If I use many different 

IFAIK there is no native font encoding since ConTeXt tries to maintain 
many languages with different hyphenation patterns needed to encode.
Czech hyphenation pattern for Czech language is in ec encoding in 
cont-en format.

> fonts (most being reencoded via virtual fonts into IL2 encoding), should 
> I reencode them into the native ConTeXt font encoding (whatever it is), 
> or can I make ConTeXt work with a different font encoding, perhaps 
> different for different fonts? How? How?
> 4) What documentations for fonts in ConTeXt should I read, and in what 
> order?

Try to look at http://wiki.contextgarden.net

Vit

P.S. Czech support in ConTeXt is far from optimal; after I will finnish 
the real big publication I will summarize it. No time for that now I am 
  a month late.

> And I have one (I hope) little plea to Mr. Hagen:
> Please, can you add MetaFont to your minimum TeX installation? I would 
> like to use it instead of teTeX because it is more flexible. But I still 
> use heavily some MetaFont bitmapped fonts. Many thanks anyway.
> 
> Your thankful
> Michal Kvasnicka
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