Getting icelandic letters (eth and thorn) to work.

Getting icelandic letters (eth and thorn) to work.

[Kári Hreinsson]

Hello.

I am trying to get the icelandic letters thorn (þ) and eth (ð) to work
but nothing seems to do.  These letters work correctly in LaTeX and I
am using ConTeXt and LaTeX from the TeTeX distribution.
The file I currenty have is like this (It's in ISO 8859-1 encoding):
=========
% interface=en output=pdftex

\enableregime[il1] % sets input encoding il1 = ISO 8859-1
\mainlanguage[is] % Á að setja á íslensku
\setupencoding[default=ec]
\useencoding[ec]

\starttext
aábcdðeéfghiíjklmnoópqrstuúvxyzþæö
AÁBCDÐEÉFGHIÍJKLMNOÓPQRSTUÚVXYZ\Thorn{}ÆÖ
\stoptext
=========
And it gets run (although I had to change Þ to \Thorn{} to get it
running) but when I view the .pdf file I just see question marks where
the thorns and eths should be.

Some version info from texexec:
 TeXExec 3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002
 This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5)
 ConTeXt  ver: 2003.1.31  fmt: 2005.10.15  int: english  mes: english

If anyone knows what could be wrong I would very much appreciate some help!

Thanks in advance,
Kári Hreinsson

Re: Getting icelandic letters (eth and thorn) to work.

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2005-10-15 um 20:07 schrieb Kári Hreinsson:

>  TeXExec 3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002
>  This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5)

Update your ConTeXt and better also your pdftex.

I don't know if that will fix your problems, but I remember there was  
a discussion on the icelandic letters some months ago that resulted  
in some encoding fix.

You can also try to use utf-8 regime.

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Re: Getting icelandic letters (eth and thorn) to work.

[Charles Doherty]

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On 15 Oct 2005, at 19:07, Kári Hreinsson wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I am trying to get the icelandic letters thorn (þ) and eth (ð) to work
> but nothing seems to do.  These letters work correctly in LaTeX and I
> am using ConTeXt and LaTeX from the TeTeX distribution.
> The file I currenty have is like this (It's in ISO 8859-1 encoding):
>

Dear Kári,

This works for me.

\usetypescript[modern][ec]
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]

\enableregime[utf]
\setupencoding[default=ec]
\useencoding[ec]

\starttext
aábcdðeéfghiíjklmnoópqrstuúvxyzþæö
AÁBCDÐEÉFGHIÍJKLMNOÓPQRSTUÚVXYZ\Thorn{}ÆÖ
\stoptext

Try that. I am using ConTeXt through the T2005 install by Gerben Wierda.

Charlie


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John Henry Newman Building,
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Re: Getting icelandic letters (eth and thorn) to work.

[Kári Hreinsson]

Hello,

I installed teTeX manually following the instructions at
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation and this works
now!
It's strange though that such an old version of this software comes
with teTeX in the Ubuntu (debian) packages.

Anyhow, thanks for quick and good answers!

- Kári Hreinsson

On 10/15/05, Charles Doherty <charles.doherty@ntlworld.ie> wrote:
>
>
> On 15 Oct 2005, at 19:07, Kári Hreinsson wrote:
>
>
> Hello.
>
>
>
>
> I am trying to get the icelandic letters thorn (þ) and eth (ð) to work
>
> but nothing seems to do.  These letters work correctly in LaTeX and I
>
> am using ConTeXt and LaTeX from the TeTeX distribution.
>
> The file I currenty have is like this (It's in ISO 8859-1 encoding):
>
> Dear Kári,
>
> This works for me.
>
> \usetypescript[modern][ec]
> \setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
>
> \enableregime[utf]
> \setupencoding[default=ec]
> \useencoding[ec]
>
> \starttext
> aábcdðeéfghiíjklmnoópqrstuúvxyzþæö
> AÁBCDÐEÉFGHIÍJKLMNOÓPQRSTUÚVXYZ\Thorn{}ÆÖ
> \stoptext
>
> Try that. I am using ConTeXt through the T2005 install by Gerben Wierda.
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
> *******************
>
> Charles Doherty,
>
> Early Irish History,
>
> Room K113,
>
> School of History,
>
> John Henry Newman Building,
>
> University College Dublin,
>
> Belfield,
>
> Dublin 4
>
>
>
>
> Tel: +353 1 716 8381
>
>
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Re: Getting icelandic letters (eth and thorn) to work.

[Hans Hagen]

� wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I installed teTeX manually following the instructions at
>http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation and this works
>now!
>It's strange though that such an old version of this software comes
>with teTeX in the Ubuntu (debian) packages.
>  
>
has to do with the definition of 'beta' and 'stable' and such; form the trafic on the tex live list i conclude that debian is in the process of getting tex packages more up to date

Hans 


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Re: Getting icelandic letters (eth and thorn) to work.

[Olivier]

Quoting  "Hans Hagen" :
> -- was pragma@wxs.nl on Oct 18, 2005 at 04:51:44 --

> ??? wrote:
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >I installed teTeX manually following the instructions at
> >http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation and this works
> >now!
> >It's strange though that such an old version of this software comes
> >with teTeX in the Ubuntu (debian) packages.
> > 
> >
> has to do with the definition of 'beta' and 'stable' and such; form the 
> trafic on the tex live list i conclude that debian is in the process of 
> getting tex packages more up to date

There are not in the official distrib yet, but the TeXlive based
packages available at http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ are very great
and up to date.  In particular they provide

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.2-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
 TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
 TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004

Instructions for install at http://www.tug.org/texlive/debian.html


Olivier

Re: Getting icelandic letters (eth and thorn) to work.

[Charles Doherty]

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On 18 Oct 2005, at 15:51, Hans Hagen wrote:

> has to do with the definition of 'beta' and 'stable' and such; form  
> the trafic on the tex live list i conclude that debian is in the  
> process of getting tex packages more up to date
>
> Hans
>

Dear Hans,

In relation to your reply above I replied to Kári Hreinsson in  
relation to getting Icelandic letters with this:
> Dear Kári,
>
> This works for me.
>
> \usetypescript[modern][ec]
> \setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
>
> \enableregime[utf]
> \setupencoding[default=ec]
> \useencoding[ec]
>
> \starttext
> aábcdðeéfghiíjklmnoópqrstuúvxyzþæö
> AÁBCDÐEÉFGHIÍJKLMNOÓPQRSTUÚVXYZ\Thorn{}ÆÖ
> \stoptext
>
> Try that. I am using ConTeXt through the T2005 install by Gerben  
> Wierda.
>

but on looking at my output again the ö and Ö (o umlaut) do not  
appear when using the 'modern' typescript above. They do appear using  
'palatino'. Is this a problem with modern?

Best wishes,
Charlie


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Early Irish History,
Room K113,
School of History,
John Henry Newman Building,
University College Dublin,
Belfield,
Dublin 4

Tel: +353 1 716 8381



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Re: Getting icelandic letters (eth and thorn) to work.

[Hans Hagen Test]

Olivier wrote:

>There are not in the official distrib yet, but the TeXlive based
>packages available at http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ are very great
>and up to date.  In particular they provide
>
>This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.2-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
> TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
> TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
>
>Instructions for install at http://www.tug.org/texlive/debian.html
>  
>
indeed, the debian tex maintainers are quite actively participating in 
tex live packaging,

Hans