* How can I minimize the vertical space taken by a \textrule
@ 2005-10-26 22:36 Gerben Wierda
2005-10-27 14:02 ` Peter Rolf
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From: Gerben Wierda @ 2005-10-26 22:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
I have a after={\textrule} in my \setupparagraphs but it takes too much
space for my purpose. What can I do about that?
Thanks,
G
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* Re: How can I minimize the vertical space taken by a \textrule
2005-10-26 22:36 How can I minimize the vertical space taken by a \textrule Gerben Wierda
@ 2005-10-27 14:02 ` Peter Rolf
2005-10-27 17:26 ` Gerben Wierda
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From: Peter Rolf @ 2005-10-27 14:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
Gerben Wierda wrote:
> I have a after={\textrule} in my \setupparagraphs but it takes too much
> space for my purpose. What can I do about that?
>
\setuptextrules[
before=,
after=, % {\blank[small]}
]
Peter
> Thanks,
>
> G
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* Re: How can I minimize the vertical space taken by a \textrule
2005-10-27 14:02 ` Peter Rolf
@ 2005-10-27 17:26 ` Gerben Wierda
2005-10-27 19:00 ` Peter Rolf
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From: Gerben Wierda @ 2005-10-27 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 27 Oct 2005, at 16:02, Peter Rolf wrote:
> Gerben Wierda wrote:
>
>> I have a after={\textrule} in my \setupparagraphs but it takes too
>> much
>> space for my purpose. What can I do about that?
>>
>>
> \setuptextrules[
> before=,
> after=, % {\blank[small]}
> ]
I already had
\setuptextrules
[before=,after=,inbetween=]
but that does not work. It seems that inside my paragraph
environment, the settings made outside it are ignored. I also do not
have my \setupinterlinespace[medium] there (see other thread). Looks
like a startstopparagraph problem to me.
G
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* Re: How can I minimize the vertical space taken by a \textrule
2005-10-27 17:26 ` Gerben Wierda
@ 2005-10-27 19:00 ` Peter Rolf
2005-10-27 22:06 ` Gerben Wierda
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From: Peter Rolf @ 2005-10-27 19:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
Gerben Wierda wrote:
> On 27 Oct 2005, at 16:02, Peter Rolf wrote:
>
>> Gerben Wierda wrote:
>>
>>> I have a after={\textrule} in my \setupparagraphs but it takes too much
>>> space for my purpose. What can I do about that?
>>>
>>>
>> \setuptextrules[
>> before=,
>> after=, % {\blank[small]}
>> ]
>
>
> I already had
>
> \setuptextrules
> [before=,after=,inbetween=]
>
> but that does not work. It seems that inside my paragraph environment,
> the settings made outside it are ignored. I also do not have my
> \setupinterlinespace[medium] there (see other thread). Looks like a
> startstopparagraph problem to me.
>
I've tested it without an environment, so maybe you are right.
Have you tried to add some setups (\setuptexrules,..) to
\setupparagraphs[...][...][before=??? or command=???]
I'm sure there is a (context-)way (but I have not used this command 'til
today).
Peter
> G
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* Re: How can I minimize the vertical space taken by a \textrule
2005-10-27 19:00 ` Peter Rolf
@ 2005-10-27 22:06 ` Gerben Wierda
2005-10-28 13:14 ` How can I minimize the vertical space taken bya \textrule Nicolas Grilly
2005-10-31 22:08 ` How can I minimize the vertical space taken by a \textrule Hans Hagen
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From: Gerben Wierda @ 2005-10-27 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Oct 27, 2005, at 21:00, Peter Rolf wrote:
>> I already had
>>
>> \setuptextrules
>> [before=,after=,inbetween=]
>>
>> but that does not work. It seems that inside my paragraph
>> environment,
>> the settings made outside it are ignored. I also do not have my
>> \setupinterlinespace[medium] there (see other thread). Looks like a
>> startstopparagraph problem to me.
>>
> I've tested it without an environment, so maybe you are right.
> Have you tried to add some setups (\setuptexrules,..) to
>
> \setupparagraphs[...][...][before=??? or command=???]
I had tried about everything I could think of. That's the one big
problem with ConTeXt, it's most of the tim ea matter of trial and error
and a difficult process of trial and error even. Documentation often
does only mentions the existence of something without an explanation
(arguments to commands are seldomly adequately explained). I have been
fighting with layout parameters yesterday for a document I needed to
keep within one page.
> I'm sure there is a (context-)way (but I have not used this command
> 'til today).
Someone should fund Hans for writing true documentation.
G
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* RE: How can I minimize the vertical space taken bya \textrule
2005-10-27 22:06 ` Gerben Wierda
@ 2005-10-28 13:14 ` Nicolas Grilly
2005-10-31 22:15 ` Hans Hagen
2005-10-31 22:16 ` Hans Hagen
2005-10-31 22:08 ` How can I minimize the vertical space taken by a \textrule Hans Hagen
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From: Nicolas Grilly @ 2005-10-28 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello,
I agree with the idea that documentation of ConTeXt's commands and
parameters is rather incomplete.
I'm wondering if it's possible to have a documentation system like Java's
Javadoc. We can put comments just before commands definitions and use a
little preprocessor written in Perl or Python that parse TeX files in order
to build a ConTeXt documentation like the manual titled "ConTeXt commands".
I'm looking forward your opinion about this.
Nicolas
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Objet : Re: [NTG-context] How can I minimize the vertical space taken bya
\textrule
On Oct 27, 2005, at 21:00, Peter Rolf wrote:
>> I already had
>>
>> \setuptextrules
>> [before=,after=,inbetween=]
>>
>> but that does not work. It seems that inside my paragraph
>> environment, the settings made outside it are ignored. I also do not
>> have my \setupinterlinespace[medium] there (see other thread). Looks
>> like a startstopparagraph problem to me.
>>
> I've tested it without an environment, so maybe you are right.
> Have you tried to add some setups (\setuptexrules,..) to
>
> \setupparagraphs[...][...][before=??? or command=???]
I had tried about everything I could think of. That's the one big problem
with ConTeXt, it's most of the tim ea matter of trial and error and a
difficult process of trial and error even. Documentation often does only
mentions the existence of something without an explanation (arguments to
commands are seldomly adequately explained). I have been fighting with
layout parameters yesterday for a document I needed to keep within one page.
> I'm sure there is a (context-)way (but I have not used this command
> 'til today).
Someone should fund Hans for writing true documentation.
G
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* Re: How can I minimize the vertical space taken bya \textrule
2005-10-28 13:14 ` How can I minimize the vertical space taken bya \textrule Nicolas Grilly
@ 2005-10-31 22:15 ` Hans Hagen
2005-10-31 22:16 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-10-31 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
Nicolas Grilly wrote:
>I agree with the idea that documentation of ConTeXt's commands and
>parameters is rather incomplete.
>
>I'm wondering if it's possible to have a documentation system like Java's
>Javadoc. We can put comments just before commands definitions and use a
>little preprocessor written in Perl or Python that parse TeX files in order
>to build a ConTeXt documentation like the manual titled "ConTeXt commands".
>
>I'm looking forward your opinion about this.
>
>
one of the problems with a tex like system is that there is quite some
interference, for instance, spacing is related to fonts and height/depth
ations and such. This means that it's rather complex to describe some
mechanisms independently, take:
\framed
{\startlines
whatever
\stoplines}
- framed has its own spacing issues, either or not aligned, auto struts,
offsets, auto width etc; these can be described (and are in several
places) but it takes some playing around to get the picture
- startlines in itself has vertical spacing set up
- however, in this combination this before/after spacing interferes with
auto-struts
or take footnotes: due to limitations in tex, footnotes may not be
burried too deep in boxes, (has to do with thw way inserts are
implemented); so, context has some workarounds which work in most cases,
but not always ... sometimes it's not even easy to predict when
somethign will work out
another example is splitting tables over pages: there are so many
boundary conditions that it would take a manual on it sown
that's not to say that we should not try to describe it ... you can add
for instance comment to the command browser in the wiki
Hans
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* Re: How can I minimize the vertical space taken bya \textrule
2005-10-28 13:14 ` How can I minimize the vertical space taken bya \textrule Nicolas Grilly
2005-10-31 22:15 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2005-10-31 22:16 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-10-31 22:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
Nicolas Grilly wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I agree with the idea that documentation of ConTeXt's commands and
>parameters is rather incomplete.
>
>I'm wondering if it's possible to have a documentation system like Java's
>Javadoc. We can put comments just before commands definitions and use a
>little preprocessor written in Perl or Python that parse TeX files in order
>to build a ConTeXt documentation like the manual titled "ConTeXt commands".
>
>
btw, many sources have documentation and you can typeset that -)
Hans
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* Re: How can I minimize the vertical space taken by a \textrule
2005-10-27 22:06 ` Gerben Wierda
2005-10-28 13:14 ` How can I minimize the vertical space taken bya \textrule Nicolas Grilly
@ 2005-10-31 22:08 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-10-31 22:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
Gerben Wierda wrote:
> Someone should fund Hans for writing true documentation.
there will be a book by adam and steve
Hans
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