cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[VnPenguin]

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Hi all,
Just updated cont-2005.10.27 on teTeX 3.0 (build from tarball). I
updated package "cont-lmt.zip" from http://www.pragma-ade.com. I
follow step by step at page
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation.

Now I have:

$ texexec --version

 TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005

               texexec : TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
               texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
                   tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
               context : ver: 2005.10.27
               cont-en : ver: 2005.10.27  fmt: 2005.11.1  mes: english

        total run time : 1 seconds


I do a small test with vietnamese utf-8:

----------- begin test ----------------------------------
\language[vn]
\mainlanguage[vn]

\setuptyping
    [style={\switchtobodyfont[10pt]\tt}]

\enableregime[utf]
\setupencoding[default=t5]
\setupbodyfont[reset]

\usetypescript[berry][t5]
\usetypescript[palatino][t5]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]

\starttext
Giả sử bạn có một loạt khá nhiều

\setuptyping[option=PERL]

\starttyping
use OpenOffice::OODoc;
# Giả sử bạn có một loạt khá nhiều
if ((@ARGV <1) or (@ARGV > 2)){
  print << "EOF";
  Usage: blahblah
EOF
\stoptyping

\stoptext
------------- end of test ------------------------------

On screen I see:
...
systems         : begin file test at line 18
(/work/apps/tetex/share/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/verb-pl.tex
loading         : Context Support Macros / Pretty PERL Verbatim
) (/work/apps/tetex/share/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/pdfr-ec.tex)
fonts           : needs map file: original-base
fonts           : needs map file: ec-public-lm
fonts           : needs map file: ec-base
fonts           : needs map file: t5-base
fonts           : needs map file: t5-urw-palatino
fonts           : needs map file: original-youngryu-px
fonts           : needs map file: t5-public-lm
[1.1{/home/quy/.texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}]
systems         : end file test at line 32
kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 72 --mag 1+5/72 --dpi 77 t5-lmtt10
mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for t5-lmtt10.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
 )
Warning: pdfetex (file t5-lmtt10): Font t5-lmtt10 at 77 not found
kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 72 --mag 1+5/72 --dpi 77 t5-lmtto10
mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for t5-lmtto10.

Warning: pdfetex (file t5-lmtto10): Font t5-lmtto10 at 77 not found
{/work/apps/tetex/share/texmf-local/fonts/enc/dvips/vntex/t5.enc}</work/apps/te
tex/share/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/public/urwvn/uplr8v.pfb>
Output written on test.pdf (1 page, 17698 bytes).
Transcript written on test.log.
...

PDF output is very strange: all font in typing mode are lossed !
(see screenshot:
http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/shots/cont-font-problem.png)
PDF of the test is : http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/test.pdf

I missed some thing when updating ?

Thank you in advance,

Quy NGUYEN-DAI
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Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

That error has been discussed several times in the last few weeks:  
download the latest cont-lmt.zip from the pragma website.

Best

Thomas

On Nov 1, 2005, at 10:45 PM, VnPenguin wrote:

> Hi all,
> Just updated cont-2005.10.27 on teTeX 3.0 (build from tarball). I
> updated package "cont-lmt.zip" from http://www.pragma-ade.com. I
> follow step by step at page
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation.
>
> Now I have:
>
> $ texexec --version
>
>  TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
>
>                texexec : TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE  
> 1997-2005
>                texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE  
> 1992-2004
>                    tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
>                context : ver: 2005.10.27
>                cont-en : ver: 2005.10.27  fmt: 2005.11.1  mes: english
>
>         total run time : 1 seconds
>
>
> I do a small test with vietnamese utf-8:
>
> ----------- begin test ----------------------------------
> \language[vn]
> \mainlanguage[vn]
>
> \setuptyping
>     [style={\switchtobodyfont[10pt]\tt}]
>
> \enableregime[utf]
> \setupencoding[default=t5]
> \setupbodyfont[reset]
>
> \usetypescript[berry][t5]
> \usetypescript[palatino][t5]
> \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
>
> \starttext
> Giả sử bạn có một loạt khá nhiều
>
> \setuptyping[option=PERL]
>
> \starttyping
> use OpenOffice::OODoc;
> # Giả sử bạn có một loạt khá nhiều
> if ((@ARGV <1) or (@ARGV > 2)){
>   print << "EOF";
>   Usage: blahblah
> EOF
> \stoptyping
>
> \stoptext
> ------------- end of test ------------------------------
>
> On screen I see:
> ...
> systems         : begin file test at line 18
> (/work/apps/tetex/share/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/verb-pl.tex
> loading         : Context Support Macros / Pretty PERL Verbatim
> ) (/work/apps/tetex/share/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/pdfr-ec.tex)
> fonts           : needs map file: original-base
> fonts           : needs map file: ec-public-lm
> fonts           : needs map file: ec-base
> fonts           : needs map file: t5-base
> fonts           : needs map file: t5-urw-palatino
> fonts           : needs map file: original-youngryu-px
> fonts           : needs map file: t5-public-lm
> [1.1{/home/quy/.texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}]
> systems         : end file test at line 32
> kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 72 --mag 1+5/72 --dpi  
> 77 t5-lmtt10
> mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for t5-lmtt10.
> kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
>  )
> Warning: pdfetex (file t5-lmtt10): Font t5-lmtt10 at 77 not found
> kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 72 --mag 1+5/72 --dpi  
> 77 t5-lmtto10
> mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for t5-lmtto10.
>
> Warning: pdfetex (file t5-lmtto10): Font t5-lmtto10 at 77 not found
> {/work/apps/tetex/share/texmf-local/fonts/enc/dvips/vntex/t5.enc}</ 
> work/apps/te
> tex/share/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/public/urwvn/uplr8v.pfb>
> Output written on test.pdf (1 page, 17698 bytes).
> Transcript written on test.log.
> ...
>
> PDF output is very strange: all font in typing mode are lossed !
> (see screenshot:
> http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/shots/cont-font-problem.png)
> PDF of the test is : http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/test.pdf
>
> I missed some thing when updating ?
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Quy NGUYEN-DAI
> --
> http://vnoss.org
> Vietnamese Open Source Software Community
> _______________________________________________
> ntg-context mailing list
> ntg-context@ntg.nl
> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[VnPenguin]

On 11/1/05, Thomas A. Schmitz <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de> wrote:
> That error has been discussed several times in the last few weeks:
> download the latest cont-lmt.zip from the pragma website.

This package was installed on my teTeX system.

Thanks,
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Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[Tobias Wolf]

> This package was installed on my teTeX system.

Do you also use the lmodern Debian package from unstable?

Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[VnPenguin]

On 11/2/05, Tobias Wolf <towolf@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This package was installed on my teTeX system.
>
> Do you also use the lmodern Debian package from unstable?

Sorry, i'm not Deb user :-) I'm using Fedora Core 4 :)

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Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[Tobias Wolf]

Did you solve the problem for your installation? I have tetex 3.0 and
lmodern from my distribution, but i copied the cont-lmt.zip into the
main tree overwriting the files that came with the latin modern
pakage, and still all I get are these mktexpk errors. Nothing works :(

Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[VnPenguin]

On 11/4/05, Tobias Wolf <towolf@gmail.com> wrote:
> Did you solve the problem for your installation? I have tetex 3.0 and
> lmodern from my distribution, but i copied the cont-lmt.zip into the
> main tree overwriting the files that came with the latin modern
> pakage, and still all I get are these mktexpk errors. Nothing works :(

No, I have not yet solution :(

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Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi guys,

Did you check which cont-sys.tex is being used? See also the
recent mswintex thread. Or just post/email the full log of

   \starttext hello world!\stoptext

Cheers, taco


Tobias Wolf wrote:
> Did you solve the problem for your installation? I have tetex 3.0 and
> lmodern from my distribution, but i copied the cont-lmt.zip into the
> main tree overwriting the files that came with the latin modern
> pakage, and still all I get are these mktexpk errors. Nothing works :(
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Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[Tobias Wolf]

> Did you check which cont-sys.tex is being used? See also the
> recent mswintex thread. Or just post/email the full log of
>
>    \starttext hello world!\stoptext
>
> Cheers, taco

Well, thanks for the offer to have a look!
cont-sys.tex doesn't yet exist. It is set to defaults.
My system, as I mentioned, is teTex 3 from Debian unstable, which has
a weird new map system that is working through .cfg files in
/etc/texmf/updmap.d . I kept it there, so it mounts lm.map itself (is
it used anyway in ConText?).
I followed the instructions on the Wiki, but I was fairly confused
because the generic instructions and the Debian instructions being
interspersed didn't make clear what really pertains to Debian. For
instance, the paths are different, and have to be, right?

Also, I tried other non-latin-modern fonts, there are also mktexpk
errors. I don't even know what's missing as in "how to create bitmap
fonts" and, why do I need them at all?
The tfms are there:
$locate ec-lmr12
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/lm/ec-lmr12.tfm
$ kpsewhich ec-lmr12.tfm
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/lm/ec-lmr12.tfm

So here's the output you requested.

kind regards, Tobias





bene@benetu:~$ texmfstart newtexexec test
TeXExec | processing document 'test'
TeXExec | provide ctx file
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | tex engine: pdfetex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
TeXExec | progname: context
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.3-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
 \write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
(./test.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2005.10.27  fmt: 2005.11.2  int: english  mes: english

language        : language en is active
<protectionstate 0>
system          : cont-new loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems         : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
color           : palette rollover is available
)
system          : cont-old loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading         : Context Old Macros
)
system          : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading         : Context File Synonyms
)
system          : cont-sys.rme loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex))
bodyfont        : 12pt rm is loaded
language        : patterns nl->texnansi:texnansi->1->2:2 nl->ec:ec->2->2:2 fr->
texnansi:texnansi->3->2:2 fr->ec:ec->4->2:2 de->texnansi:texnansi->5->2:2 de->e
c:ec->6->2:2 it->texnansi:texnansi->7->2:2 it->ec:ec->8->2:2 pt->texnansi:texna
nsi->9->2:2 pt->ec:ec->10->2:2 hr->ec:ec->11->2:2 pl->pl0:pl0->12->2:2 pl->ec:e
c->13->2:2 pl->qx:qx->14->2:2 cz->il2:il2->15->2:2 cz->ec:ec->16->2:2 sk->il2:i
l2->17->2:2 sk->ec:ec->18->2:2 sl->il2:il2->19->2:2 sl->ec:ec->20->2:2 en->ec:e
c->22->2:2 da->ec:ec->23->2:2 sv->ec:ec->24->2:2 af->ec:ec->25->2:2 no->ec:ec->
26->2:2 deo->ec:ec->27->2:2 uk->ec:ec->28->2:2 us->ec:ec->29->2:2 es->ec:ec->30
->2:2 ca->ec:ec->31->2:2 la->ec:ec->32->2:2 ro->ec:ec->33->2:2 tr->ec:ec->34->2
:2 fi->ec:ec->36->2:2 hu->ec:ec->37->2:2 loaded
specials        : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
system          : test.top loaded
(./test.top
specials        : loading definition file tpd
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials        : loading definition file fdf
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex)
specials        : fdf loaded
)
specials        : fdf,tpd loaded
)
systems         : begin file test at line 1
fonts           : resetting map file list
fonts           : using map file: original-base
fonts           : using map file: ec-public-lm
fonts           : using map file: ec-base
fonts           : using map file: original-ams-base
fonts           : using map file: original-public-lm
[1.1{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-empty.map}{/usr/share/te
xmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-base.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips
/context/ec-public-lm.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-base.map
}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}{/usr/share/t
exmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-lm.map}]
systems         : end file test at line 1
system          : cont-err loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-err.tex

> User file 'cont-sys.tex' not found, 'cont-sys.rme' has been used instead. <

)kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 72 --mag 1+0/72 --dpi 72 ec-lmr12
mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for ec-lmr12.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
 )
Warning: pdfetex (file ec-lmr12): Font ec-lmr12 at 72 not found
Output written on test.pdf (1 page, 1184 bytes).
Transcript written on test.log.
TeXUtil | parsing file test.tex
TeXUtil | shortcuts : 0
TeXUtil | expansions: 0
TeXUtil | reductions: 0
TeXUtil | divisions : 0
TeXUtil | loaded files: 1
TeXUtil | commands: 15
TeXUtil | programs: 0
TeXUtil | tuo file saved
TeXExec | TeX run 2
TeXExec | tex engine: pdfetex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
TeXExec | progname: context
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.3-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
 \write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
(./test.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2005.10.27  fmt: 2005.11.2  int: english  mes: english

language        : language en is active
<protectionstate 0>
system          : cont-new loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems         : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
color           : palette rollover is available
)
system          : cont-old loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading         : Context Old Macros
)
system          : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading         : Context File Synonyms
)
system          : cont-sys.rme loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex))
bodyfont        : 12pt rm is loaded
language        : patterns nl->texnansi:texnansi->1->2:2 nl->ec:ec->2->2:2 fr->
texnansi:texnansi->3->2:2 fr->ec:ec->4->2:2 de->texnansi:texnansi->5->2:2 de->e
c:ec->6->2:2 it->texnansi:texnansi->7->2:2 it->ec:ec->8->2:2 pt->texnansi:texna
nsi->9->2:2 pt->ec:ec->10->2:2 hr->ec:ec->11->2:2 pl->pl0:pl0->12->2:2 pl->ec:e
c->13->2:2 pl->qx:qx->14->2:2 cz->il2:il2->15->2:2 cz->ec:ec->16->2:2 sk->il2:i
l2->17->2:2 sk->ec:ec->18->2:2 sl->il2:il2->19->2:2 sl->ec:ec->20->2:2 en->ec:e
c->22->2:2 da->ec:ec->23->2:2 sv->ec:ec->24->2:2 af->ec:ec->25->2:2 no->ec:ec->
26->2:2 deo->ec:ec->27->2:2 uk->ec:ec->28->2:2 us->ec:ec->29->2:2 es->ec:ec->30
->2:2 ca->ec:ec->31->2:2 la->ec:ec->32->2:2 ro->ec:ec->33->2:2 tr->ec:ec->34->2
:2 fi->ec:ec->36->2:2 hu->ec:ec->37->2:2 loaded
specials        : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
system          : test.top loaded
(./test.top
specials        : loading definition file tpd
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials        : loading definition file fdf
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex)
specials        : fdf loaded
)
specials        : fdf,tpd loaded
) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo)
 (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo)
(./test.tuo)
systems         : begin file test at line 1
fonts           : resetting map file list
fonts           : using map file: original-base
fonts           : using map file: ec-public-lm
fonts           : using map file: ec-base
fonts           : using map file: original-ams-base
fonts           : using map file: original-public-lm
[1.1{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-empty.map}{/usr/share/te
xmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-base.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips
/context/ec-public-lm.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-base.map
}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}{/usr/share/t
exmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-lm.map}]
systems         : end file test at line 1
system          : cont-err loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-err.tex

> User file 'cont-sys.tex' not found, 'cont-sys.rme' has been used instead. <

)kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 72 --mag 1+0/72 --dpi 72 ec-lmr12
mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for ec-lmr12.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
 )
Warning: pdfetex (file ec-lmr12): Font ec-lmr12 at 72 not found
Output written on test.pdf (1 page, 1184 bytes).
Transcript written on test.log.
TeXUtil | parsing file test.tex
TeXUtil | shortcuts : 0
TeXUtil | expansions: 0
TeXUtil | reductions: 0
TeXUtil | divisions : 0
TeXUtil | loaded files: 1
TeXUtil | commands: 15
TeXUtil | programs: 0
TeXUtil | tuo file saved
TeXExec | runtime: 9.062009

Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi Tobias,

Tobias Wolf wrote:
> 
> Well, thanks for the offer to have a look!
> cont-sys.tex doesn't yet exist. It is set to defaults.
> My system, as I mentioned, is teTex 3 from Debian unstable, which has
> a weird new map system that is working through .cfg files in
> /etc/texmf/updmap.d . I kept it there, so it mounts lm.map itself (is
> it used anyway in ConText?).

ConTeXt comes with its own map files, and that is what has your
system confused: it is using teTeX's map files (for dvips) still,
instead of the ones from the context distribution (for pdftex).

> I followed the instructions on the Wiki, but I was fairly confused
> because the generic instructions and the Debian instructions being
> interspersed didn't make clear what really pertains to Debian. For
> instance, the paths are different, and have to be, right?

I think so, but I don't use Debian so am not sure. To be honest,
this kind of mess was the reason why my contribution to that page
begins with *forcing* the removal of the distribution-supplied
teTeX. Linux packagers always seem to believe they know everything
better than the original author/developer, and they generally mess
up the author's documentation while at it. :-(

> systems         : begin file test at line 1
> fonts           : resetting map file list
> fonts           : using map file: original-base
> fonts           : using map file: ec-public-lm
> fonts           : using map file: ec-base
> fonts           : using map file: original-ams-base
> fonts           : using map file: original-public-lm

So far, so good. This indicates that your cont-sys is fine.

> [1.1{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-empty.map}{/usr/share/te
> xmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-base.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips
> /context/ec-public-lm.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-base.map
> }{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}{/usr/share/t
> exmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-lm.map}]

And this is the error: the map file names with 'map/dvips' in the
path are wrong. There are/should be files with identical names in
the  similar 'map/pdftex' location, and those are the ones that are 
should be found by pdftex, not the ones in 'map/dvips'.

I assume that the 'map/dvips' ones are also intended for ConTeXt,
but they are not the latest and greatest, and therefor lead to
errors. In virgin teTeX, the ConTeXt distributed map files
would have been found first. You can try copying all files in 
map/pdftex/context to map/dvips/context, and see if that will
work. If not, you need to have a talk with a somebody who
understands the Debian teTeX package thoroughly.


> systems         : end file test at line 1
> system          : cont-err loaded
> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-err.tex
> 
> 
>>User file 'cont-sys.tex' not found, 'cont-sys.rme' has been used instead. <

If you want to get rid of this message, copy the cont-sys.rme to
cont-sys.tex. No need to change anything inside, just do a copy.

Cheers, Taco

Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[Tobias Wolf]

On 11/4/05, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Tobias,
>
> Tobias Wolf wrote:
> >
> > Well, thanks for the offer to have a look!
> > cont-sys.tex doesn't yet exist. It is set to defaults.
> > My system, as I mentioned, is teTex 3 from Debian unstable, which has
> > a weird new map system that is working through .cfg files in
> > /etc/texmf/updmap.d . I kept it there, so it mounts lm.map itself (is
> > it used anyway in ConText?).
>
> ConTeXt comes with its own map files, and that is what has your
> system confused: it is using teTeX's map files (for dvips) still,
> instead of the ones from the context distribution (for pdftex).

I fear it was even more complicated. Also some strangeness in the map
files which i discovered myself in the meantime.
I ripped all the context folders from my system and saw that there
were even map files in /etc

$locate -r /context$
/etc/texmf/map/dvips/context
/etc/texmf/map/pdftex/context
/etc/texmf/context
/usr/share/doc/texmf/context
/usr/share/doc/texmf/polish/context
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context
/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/context
/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/context
/usr/share/texmf/context
/usr/share/texmf/metapost/context
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/afm/hoekwater/context
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/context
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/hoekwater/context
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1/hoekwater/context
/usr/share/texmf/scripts/context
/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/context

I grepped for ec-lmt-12 in the map files and it wasn't there. But
these were identical (i.e. the second contained references to cork.
(why??))

$ diff cork-public-lm.map ec-public-lm.map
$


So I just did $rm -rf `locate -r /context$` and inflated the
cont-tmf.zip back into the tree. Maybe it would have been better to
use my home dir texmf for that but there were a .texmf, a texmf and a
.texmf-var already and I didn't want to hunt for some stale files
first.

> > I followed the instructions on the Wiki, but I was fairly confused
> > because the generic instructions and the Debian instructions being
> > interspersed didn't make clear what really pertains to Debian. For
> > instance, the paths are different, and have to be, right?
>
> I think so, but I don't use Debian so am not sure. To be honest,
> this kind of mess was the reason why my contribution to that page
> begins with *forcing* the removal of the distribution-supplied
> teTeX. Linux packagers always seem to believe they know everything
> better than the original author/developer, and they generally mess
> up the author's documentation while at it. :-(

It's a bad combination and makes the situation even more complicated
and increasingly arcane to setup and debug. All these texmfs, maps,
tfms and whatnot. Insane. Plus ConText's output only makes sense to
the developers.
Latin modern is up and running, though. Phew.
My initial intention to compile the PDFTex docs still is a no-go. It
is asking for  the ec-urw-palatino.map which doesn't exist :(

*getting out the typewriter*

regards, Tobias
>
> Cheers, Taco
>
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Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[Hans Hagen]

Tobias Wolf wrote:

>>Did you check which cont-sys.tex is being used? See also the
>>recent mswintex thread. Or just post/email the full log of
>>
>>   \starttext hello world!\stoptext
>>
>>Cheers, taco
>>    
>>
>
>Well, thanks for the offer to have a look!
>cont-sys.tex doesn't yet exist. It is set to defaults.
>My system, as I mentioned, is teTex 3 from Debian unstable, which has
>a weird new map system that is working through .cfg files in
>/etc/texmf/updmap.d . I kept it there, so it mounts lm.map itself (is
>it used anyway in ConText?).
>  
>
i don't use updmap at all

context loads map files on demand (when configured in cont-sys.tex)

when no cont-sys.tex is present, then cont-sys.rme is used

the presense of those files in /etc is disturbing (and strange since tex 
has pretty well layed out tree with defined configuration places)

i have no idea how tex + friends can/will locate those files

Hans

Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[Tobias Wolf]

On 11/4/05, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Tobias Wolf wrote:
>
> >My system, as I mentioned, is teTex 3 from Debian unstable, which has
> >a weird new map system that is working through .cfg files in
> >/etc/texmf/updmap.d . I kept it there, so it mounts lm.map itself (is
> >it used anyway in ConText?).
> >
> >
> i don't use updmap at all
>
> context loads map files on demand (when configured in cont-sys.tex)
>
> when no cont-sys.tex is present, then cont-sys.rme is used
>
> the presense of those files in /etc is disturbing (and strange since tex
> has pretty well layed out tree with defined configuration places)
>
> i have no idea how tex + friends can/will locate those files

I think they want to make people use /etc for configuration, which
could make sense if you want to make backups of the system config.
The updmap.d directory is supposed to make mounting maps easier, I
guess. You just drop a file there containing the Map/MixedMap
assignments and that is merged into updmap.cfg on issuing updmap-sys.

Pretty confusing all that.

But on the other hand, Hans, why can't I compile the PDFTex docs
because I don't have this (
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2004/006705.html )
And secondly, why is the file system searched case sensitive, so that
the fonts are called in lowercase through the ConText maps
(ec-raw-lte5002), so that I have to rename all files, but then
mktextfm fails because it looks for ec-raw-LTe50021?

For me the disturbing things are starting to prevail in my ConText
experience. Is it supposed to be like that?

-- Tobias








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Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[Taco Hoekwater]

Tobias Wolf wrote:
> On 11/4/05, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> 
>>
>>the presense of those files in /etc is disturbing (and strange since tex
>>has pretty well layed out tree with defined configuration places)
>>
>>i have no idea how tex + friends can/will locate those files
> 
> I think they want to make people use /etc for configuration, which
> could make sense if you want to make backups of the system config.

It is likely that the files in /etc or the ones in /usr/share/texmf
are symlinks to the other set of files.

A lot of the problems you have come down to this: teTeX 3.0 is not
exactly the same as teTeX 2.02 was (mostly because of changes in
the TeX Directory Standard); but the linux rpm/deb packages try
hard to make it appear to be. Hence the attemps to make it fit in
the old directory structure (Most probably this is because
maintainers tend to dislike change).

In the latest cont-lmt.zip from Pragma, as well as the latest Latin
modern distribution on Ctan, absolutely everything is lowercase.
The mixed case file names are a thing of the past, and indicate
that not all of the old stuff is removed from your system (still).

Cheers, and hang on,

Taco

Re: compiling pdftex docs (was: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem)

[Taco Hoekwater]

Tobias Wolf wrote:
> But on the other hand, Hans, why can't I compile the PDFTex docs
> because I don't have this (
> http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2004/006705.html )

What version of the pdftex manual? The latest one in
the CVS has this around line 350:

   % We use adobe metrics instead of urw metrics because tetex only
   % ships the former. Beware, these metrics differ!

   \loadmapfile[context-base.map]
   \usetypescript [adobekb] [\defaultencoding]
   \usetypescript [palatino][\defaultencoding]

and that additional \loadmapfile line may solve your problem.
At least, that part works for menow. I had a 'ec-raw-palatino.map
is missing' error message with a previous version of the manual.

It still doesn't compile quite right with my pdfetex, but that is
probably because it is the CVS version. ;-)

Taco

Re: compiling pdftex docs (was: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem)

[Tobias Wolf]

On 11/4/05, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:
> Tobias Wolf wrote:
> > But on the other hand, Hans, why can't I compile the PDFTex docs
> > because I don't have this (
> > http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2004/006705.html )
>
> What version of the pdftex manual? The latest one in
> the CVS has this around line 350:

I think I was past that by now. (through the Psnfss page on the Wiki,
which doesn't mention that warning)

> It still doesn't compile quite right with my pdfetex,
> but that isprobably because it is the CVS version. ;-)

There are loads of errors remaining (in the version from tug.org) like
the following, which is also present in the atpragma mode:


! Missing number, treated as zero.
<to be read again>
                   }
\tabulatecontent ...NR \HL \NC \type {\pdfoutput }
                                                   \NC integer \NC 0 \NC \DV...

\fulltabulatecontent ...dcontent \tabulatecontent
                                                  \tabulatetailcontent \remo...

\processtabulate ...sa \crcr \fulltabulatecontent
                                                  \crcr }}\ifnum \nofautotab...
l.27 \stoptabulate

-- Tobias

Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[Tobias Wolf]

> It is likely that the files in /etc or the ones in /usr/share/texmf
> are symlinks to the other set of files.

That's right. Maps are kept in /etc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex -> /etc/texmf/map/pdftex
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips -> /etc/texmf/map/dvips

> A lot of the problems you have come down to this: teTeX 3.0 is not
> exactly the same as teTeX 2.02 was (mostly because of changes in
> the TeX Directory Standard); but the linux rpm/deb packages try
> hard to make it appear to be. Hence the attemps to make it fit in
> the old directory structure (Most probably this is because
> maintainers tend to dislike change).
>
> In the latest cont-lmt.zip from Pragma, as well as the latest Latin
> modern distribution on Ctan, absolutely everything is lowercase.
> The mixed case file names are a thing of the past, and indicate
> that not all of the old stuff is removed from your system (still).

It was a fresh install with custom font sets copied from my
discontinued Miktex installation which wasn't case sensitive. What I
didn't know was that I needed to regenerate stuff with texfont. In the
beginning I just lowercased the ASCII files with sed and couldn't
figure out where still references to the old uppercase filenames came
from.
BTW, I must say I kind of preferred Miktex.

> Cheers, and hang on,
>
> Taco

Thanks for the upkeep ;) But I'm still not convinced that spending
half the time on the content and the other half (or more) on Context
is such a good thing.
-- Tobias

Re: compiling pdftex docs

[Taco Hoekwater]

Tobias Wolf wrote:
> There are loads of errors remaining (in the version from tug.org) like
> the following, which is also present in the atpragma mode:
> 
> 
> ! Missing number, treated as zero.
> <to be read again>
>                    }
> \tabulatecontent ...NR \HL \NC \type {\pdfoutput }
>                                                    \NC integer \NC 0 \NC \DV...


Those are the same errors I got. I just assumed they were
a side-effect of the cvs version.

Taco

Re: compiling pdftex docs => BUG

[Taco Hoekwater]

This is a bug in ConTeXt 10.27, but maybe earlier ones
as well. Minimal file

   \starttext
   \starttabulate[|l|]
   \NC \type{\pdfoutput}  \NC\NR
   \stoptabulate
   \stoptext

Something to do with \protectedfirsttype, it seems

Taco

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Tobias Wolf wrote:
> 
>> There are loads of errors remaining (in the version from tug.org) like
>> the following, which is also present in the atpragma mode:
>>
>>
>> ! Missing number, treated as zero.
>> <to be read again>
>>                    }
>> \tabulatecontent ...NR \HL \NC \type {\pdfoutput }
>>                                                    \NC integer \NC 0 
>> \NC \DV...
> 
> 
> Those are the same errors I got. I just assumed they were
> a side-effect of the cvs version.
> 
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Debian Installation (was: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem)

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi guys,

A request for action: I've split off the Debian instructions
from the generic teTeX 3.0 installation page to avoid the
confusion that was (apparently) created by the intermixed
comments. While doing that, it became obvious that there
are severe holes in those instructions. Someone with Debian
knowledge really should fix the page ...

   http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Debian_installion

Cheers, Taco

Tobias Wolf wrote:
>>This package was installed on my teTeX system.
> 
> Do you also use the lmodern Debian package from unstable?
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Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[Hans Hagen]

Tobias Wolf wrote:

>On 11/4/05, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>  
>
>>Tobias Wolf wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>My system, as I mentioned, is teTex 3 from Debian unstable, which has
>>>a weird new map system that is working through .cfg files in
>>>/etc/texmf/updmap.d . I kept it there, so it mounts lm.map itself (is
>>>it used anyway in ConText?).
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>i don't use updmap at all
>>
>>context loads map files on demand (when configured in cont-sys.tex)
>>
>>when no cont-sys.tex is present, then cont-sys.rme is used
>>
>>the presense of those files in /etc is disturbing (and strange since tex
>>has pretty well layed out tree with defined configuration places)
>>
>>i have no idea how tex + friends can/will locate those files
>>    
>>
>
>I think they want to make people use /etc for configuration, which
>could make sense if you want to make backups of the system config.
>The updmap.d directory is supposed to make mounting maps easier, I
>guess. You just drop a file there containing the Map/MixedMap
>assignments and that is merged into updmap.cfg on issuing updmap-sys.
>
>Pretty confusing all that.
>
>But on the other hand, Hans, why can't I compile the PDFTex docs
>because I don't have this (
>http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2004/006705.html )
>  
>

because that one has been dropped long ago

\usetypescript[adobekb] [your encoding]

(see type-akb.tex)

>And secondly, why is the file system searched case sensitive, so that
>the fonts are called in lowercase through the ConText maps
>(ec-raw-lte5002), so that I have to rename all files, but then
>mktextfm fails because it looks for ec-raw-LTe50021?
>  
>
hm, i always lowercsase all fonts on installation (font vendors make a 
mess of case in names)

>For me the disturbing things are starting to prevail in my ConText
>experience. Is it supposed to be like that?
>  
>
depends; fonts are always an issue; also, wanting to handle fonts 
(names) in context as in latex, you end up in constant changes and updates

btw, esp the last few years, there has been many changes in fonts 
(locations of files, map syntax changes), etc etc

Hans

Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

>
> A lot of the problems you have come down to this: teTeX 3.0 is not
> exactly the same as teTeX 2.02 was (mostly because of changes in
> the TeX Directory Standard); but the linux rpm/deb packages try
> hard to make it appear to be. Hence the attemps to make it fit in
> the old directory structure (Most probably this is because
> maintainers tend to dislike change).

also, tetex and tex live differ; one complication is that, because of 
the many possible installation variants on linux, some of the paths are 
set differently (and become pretty complex when you see them in their 
expanded form); it makes tracing errors painful

Hans

Re: compiling pdftex docs

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> Tobias Wolf wrote:
>
>> There are loads of errors remaining (in the version from tug.org) like
>> the following, which is also present in the atpragma mode:
>>
>>
>> ! Missing number, treated as zero.
>> <to be read again>
>>                    }
>> \tabulatecontent ...NR \HL \NC \type {\pdfoutput }
>>                                                    \NC integer \NC 0 
>> \NC \DV...
>
>
>
> Those are the same errors I got. I just assumed they were
> a side-effect of the cvs version.

in cont-new.tex say:

\let\protectedfirsttype\string % \relax by default

this problem was introduced when some problems with color were posted;

i need to look into it; the tricky thing is that verbatim (always) 
behaves different in direct and in 'passed as argument' mode, which is 
the nature of tex; unfortunately there is no easy way around e.g. using 
scantokens, because reprocessing may introduce spaces,

Hans

Re: cont 2005.10.27 & t5-lmtt10 font problem

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

>
> Hi Tobias,
>
> Tobias Wolf wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, thanks for the offer to have a look!
>> cont-sys.tex doesn't yet exist. It is set to defaults.
>> My system, as I mentioned, is teTex 3 from Debian unstable, which has
>> a weird new map system that is working through .cfg files in
>> /etc/texmf/updmap.d . I kept it there, so it mounts lm.map itself (is
>> it used anyway in ConText?).
>
>
> ConTeXt comes with its own map files, and that is what has your
> system confused: it is using teTeX's map files (for dvips) still,
> instead of the ones from the context distribution (for pdftex).

there has been a bit of a mess in the last few month with regards to the 
enc/map files for latin modern: new names, as well as a slightly 
different naming scheme; unfortunately context paid the price because of 
early adapting; by now (i'll upload  a new distribution today) things 
should work ok);

an option is, in type-map.tex, to let context include all permutation of 
map file names for latin modern

Hans