diacritics in Utopia/Fourier

diacritics in Utopia/Fourier

[Alan Bowen]

I am running the latest version of ConTeXt and ran into a problem  
with some diacritical marks using

%Fourier/Utopia Expert
\usetypescript[type-syn]
\usetypescript[fourier][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[fourier,10.5pt]

While \={\i} and \=a, for example, work as expected when the font is  
“italic” or bold, I get garbage when it is just roman.

Is this a problem with the font encoding or is there something / 
different new that I must do to put macrons and so forth over letters  
in the roman typeface?

Best, Alan

PS  A sample line—

`Ibn Rushd: Critique d'Ibn S\={\i}n\={a} ou le retour \`a Aristote'.

Re: diacritics in Utopia/Fourier

[Hans Hagen]

Alan Bowen wrote:

> I am running the latest version of ConTeXt and ran into a problem  
> with some diacritical marks using
>
> %Fourier/Utopia Expert
> \usetypescript[type-syn]
> \usetypescript[fourier][\defaultencoding]
> \setupbodyfont[fourier,10.5pt]
>
> While \={\i} and \=a, for example, work as expected when the font is  
> �italic� or bold, I get garbage when it is just roman.
>
> Is this a problem with the font encoding or is there something / 
> different new that I must do to put macrons and so forth over letters  
> in the roman typeface?


strange ... normally the encodings match for such fonts ... adam might now

Hans

Re: diacritics in Utopia/Fourier

[Alan Bowen]

I hope that we can resolve this—I need Fourier/Utopia for a book  
series. But right now not even \quote works properly in the roman  
typeface.

Alan


On Nov 15, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Alan Bowen wrote:
>
>> I am running the latest version of ConTeXt and ran into a problem   
>> with some diacritical marks using
>>
>> %Fourier/Utopia Expert
>> \usetypescript[type-syn]
>> \usetypescript[fourier][\defaultencoding]
>> \setupbodyfont[fourier,10.5pt]
>>
>> While \={\i} and \=a, for example, work as expected when the font  
>> is  �italic� or bold, I get garbage when it is just roman.
>>
>> Is this a problem with the font encoding or is there something /  
>> different new that I must do to put macrons and so forth over  
>> letters  in the roman typeface?
>
>
> strange ... normally the encodings match for such fonts ... adam  
> might now
>
> Hans
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Re: diacritics in Utopia/Fourier

[Hans Hagen]

Alan Bowen wrote:

> I hope that we can resolve this—I need Fourier/Utopia for a book  
> series. But right now not even \quote works properly in the roman  
> typeface.
>
> Alan
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> Alan Bowen wrote:
>>
>>> I am running the latest version of ConTeXt and ran into a problem   
>>> with some diacritical marks using
>>>
>>> %Fourier/Utopia Expert
>>> \usetypescript[type-syn]
>>
what is this line doing there? ^^^

>>> \usetypescript[fourier][\defaultencoding]
>>> \setupbodyfont[fourier,10.5pt]
>>>
>>> While \={\i} and \=a, for example, work as expected when the font  
>>> is  �italic� or bold, I get garbage when it is just roman.
>>>
>>> Is this a problem with the font encoding or is there something /  
>>> different new that I must do to put macrons and so forth over  
>>> letters  in the roman typeface?
>>
\usetypescript[fourier][ec] \setupbodyfont[fourier,10.5pt]

While \={\i} and \=a, for example \end

works ok here

(utopia/fourier can be a bit tricky because utopia is not always shipped 
- licence issues and such)

Hans

Re: diacritics in Utopia/Fourier

[Alan Bowen]

Hans—

That’s got it!

In fact, in testing this, I found that there were two problems:

• \usetypescript[type-syn] no longer works—your \usetypescript 
[fourier][ec] handles that nicely

• in my setup for Greek I had \setupencoding[default=texnansi] and I  
had to change this to \setupencoding[default=ec]

Anyway, thanks Hans.

Alan

On Nov 17, 2005, at 2:15 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Alan Bowen wrote:
>
>> I hope that we can resolve this—I need Fourier/Utopia for a book   
>> series. But right now not even \quote works properly in the roman   
>> typeface.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> Alan Bowen wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am running the latest version of ConTeXt and ran into a  
>>>> problem   with some diacritical marks using
>>>>
>>>> %Fourier/Utopia Expert
>>>> \usetypescript[type-syn]
>>>
> what is this line doing there? ^^^
>
>>>> \usetypescript[fourier][\defaultencoding]
>>>> \setupbodyfont[fourier,10.5pt]
>>>>
>>>> While \={\i} and \=a, for example, work as expected when the  
>>>> font  is  �italic� or bold, I get garbage when it is just  
>>>> roman.
>>>>
>>>> Is this a problem with the font encoding or is there  
>>>> something /  different new that I must do to put macrons and so  
>>>> forth over  letters  in the roman typeface?
>>>
> \usetypescript[fourier][ec] \setupbodyfont[fourier,10.5pt]
>
> While \={\i} and \=a, for example \end
>
> works ok here
>
> (utopia/fourier can be a bit tricky because utopia is not always  
> shipped - licence issues and such)
>
> Hans
>
>
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Re: diacritics in Utopia/Fourier

[Adam Lindsay]

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Alan Bowen said this at Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:56:55 -0500:

>I hope that we can resolve this—I need Fourier/Utopia for a book  
>series. But right now not even \quote works properly in the roman  
>typeface.

Sorry I haven't had the time to engage with this issue. There's
something suspect in your system. First off, what's your
\defaultencoding set to?

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Re: diacritics in Utopia/Fourier

[Alan Bowen]

Adam—

The default encoding used to be “texnansi” (it was set with a Greek  
font that I am using) but now is now “ec”. Changing the encoding and  
replacing

	\usetypescript[type-syn]
	\usetypescript[fourier][\defaultencoding]
	\setupbodyfont[fourier,10.5pt]

with
\setupencoding[default=ec]
\usetypescript[fourier][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[fourier,10.5pt]

seemed to solve the problem and so far everything is running smoothly.

Neat test, by the way.

Alan

On Nov 18, 2005, at 8:45 AM, Adam Lindsay wrote:

> Alan Bowen said this at Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:56:55 -0500:
>
>> I hope that we can resolve this—I need Fourier/Utopia for a book
>> series. But right now not even \quote works properly in the roman
>> typeface.
>
> Sorry I haven't had the time to engage with this issue. There's
> something suspect in your system. First off, what's your
> \defaultencoding set to?
>
> \starttext
> \defaultencoding
> \stoptext
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Re: diacritics in Utopia/Fourier

[Hans Hagen]

Alan Bowen wrote:

> Adam�
>
> The default encoding used to be �texnansi� (it was set with a Greek  
> font that I am using) but now is now �ec�. Changing the encoding and  
> replacing
>
making texnansi default in the context distribution is a problem because 
tex distributions mostly ship ec

Hans