Choosing a font for our Math Book

Choosing a font for our Math Book

[David Arnold]

Adam, Taco, Hans, et al,

This file:

%output=pdf

\startcomponent section1

\project book
\product chapter1

\section{Trinomials}

\input knuth

\placeformula[eq:1]
\startformula
f(x)=x^2+2x-3
\stopformula

We, see in \in{Equation}[eq:1], the historical use of function notation.

\stopcomponent

%%% Local Variables:
%%% mode: conTeXt-en
%%% End:

I have no font instructions in my environment file bookenv.tex. This  
component section1 compiles fine and gives me (checking in Acrobat  
Professional) a combination of latin modern and computer modern  
fonts. However, they hardly match in size. The computer modern font  
is much larger than the text in latin modern font.

So, a couple of things.

1. If I wanted to try and see if this would compile with my Lucida  
fonts, what should I try.

2. Do you have a couple of suggestions for body font and math font  
that would look good together and can you provide me with the font  
instructions to include them in my document?

I would be grateful.

David

Re: Choosing a font for our Math Book

[Hans Hagen]

David Arnold wrote:

> I have no font instructions in my environment file bookenv.tex. This  
> component section1 compiles fine and gives me (checking in Acrobat  
> Professional) a combination of latin modern and computer modern  
> fonts. However, they hardly match in size. The computer modern font  
> is much larger than the text in latin modern font.

not here; can you send me a minimal pdf file that shows the problem?

> So, a couple of things.
>
> 1. If I wanted to try and see if this would compile with my Lucida  
> fonts, what should I try.

\usetypescript[lucida][texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[lucida]


btw, \showfontstrip gives you a way to analyze ratios

>
> 2. Do you have a couple of suggestions for body font and math font  
> that would look good together and can you provide me with the font  
> instructions to include them in my document?


try:

\usetypescript[palatino][texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[palatino]

Hans

Re: Choosing a font for our Math Book

[David Arnold]

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Hans,

On Nov 25, 2005, at 4:48 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> \usetypescript[lucida][texnansi]
> \setupbodyfont[lucida]

This doesn't work on my system. However, the attached file does  
compile and gives me Lucida in Acrobat Professional. You'll note  
thought that all the math is commented out.

What do you suggest? I tried this as well:

\usetypescript[yandy-lucida][texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[lucida]

That just caused a font substitution.

David


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% output=pdftex interface=en

\usemodule[fnt-01]

\loadmapfile[texnansi-yandy-lucida.map]

\starttext

\ShowFont[LucidaCalligraphy-Italic][texnansi-lbc][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaBright-Demi][texnansi-lbd][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaBright-DemiItalic][texnansi-lbdi][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaBrightSmallcaps-Demi][texnansi-lbdsc][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaHandwriting-Italic][texnansi-lbh][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaBright-Italic][texnansi-lbi][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaCasual-Italic][texnansi-lbki][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaCasual][texnansi-lbkr][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaBlackletter][texnansi-lbl][texnansi]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-Arrows][lbma]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-Arrows-Demi][lbmad]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-Arrows][lbmatex]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-Demibold][lbmd]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-DemiItalic][lbmdi]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-AltDemiItalic][lbmdo]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-Extension][lbme]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-Extension][lbmetex]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-Italic][lbmi]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-Italic][lbmitex]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-AltItalic][lbmo]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-AltItalic][lbmotex]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-Roman][lbmr]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-Symbol][lbms]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-Symbol-Demi][lbmsd]
%ShowFont[LucidaNewMath-Symbol][lbmstex]
\ShowFont[LucidaBright][texnansi-lbr][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaBrightSmallcaps][texnansi-lbrsc][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaBright-Oblique][texnansi-lbsl][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaTypewriterBold][texnansi-lbtb][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaTypewriterBoldOblique][texnansi-lbtbo][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaTypewriterOblique][texnansi-lbto][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaTypewriter][texnansi-lbtr][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaFax-Demi][texnansi-lfd][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaFax-DemiItalic][texnansi-lfdi][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaFax-Italic][texnansi-lfi][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaFax][texnansi-lfr][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaSans-Bold][texnansi-lsb][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaSans-BoldItalic][texnansi-lsbi][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaSans-Demi][texnansi-lsd][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaSans-DemiItalic][texnansi-lsdi][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaSans-Italic][texnansi-lsi][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaSans][texnansi-lsr][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaSans-TypewriterBold][texnansi-lstb][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaSans-TypewriterBoldOblique][texnansi-lstbo][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaSans-TypewriterOblique][texnansi-lsto][texnansi]
\ShowFont[LucidaSans-Typewriter][texnansi-lstr][texnansi]

\setupheadertexts[\tttf example definitions]

\starttyping
texfont --ve=yandy --co=lucida --ma --in
\stoptyping

\starttyping
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/texnansi-yandy-lucida.map
\stoptyping

\starttyping
\definefontsynonym[LucidaCalligraphy-Italic][texnansi-lbc][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaBright-Demi][texnansi-lbd][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaBright-DemiItalic][texnansi-lbdi][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightSmallcaps-Demi][texnansi-lbdsc][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaHandwriting-Italic][texnansi-lbh][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaBright-Italic][texnansi-lbi][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaCasual-Italic][texnansi-lbki][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaCasual][texnansi-lbkr][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaBlackletter][texnansi-lbl][encoding=texnansi]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-Arrows][lbma]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-Arrows-Demi][lbmad]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-Arrows][lbmatex]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-Demibold][lbmd]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-DemiItalic][lbmdi]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-AltDemiItalic][lbmdo]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-Extension][lbme]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-Extension][lbmetex]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-Italic][lbmi]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-Italic][lbmitex]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-AltItalic][lbmo]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-AltItalic][lbmotex]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-Roman][lbmr]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-Symbol][lbms]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-Symbol-Demi][lbmsd]
%definefontsynonym[LucidaNewMath-Symbol][lbmstex]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaBright][texnansi-lbr][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightSmallcaps][texnansi-lbrsc][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaBright-Oblique][texnansi-lbsl][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaTypewriterBold][texnansi-lbtb][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaTypewriterBoldOblique][texnansi-lbtbo][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaTypewriterOblique][texnansi-lbto][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaTypewriter][texnansi-lbtr][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaFax-Demi][texnansi-lfd][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaFax-DemiItalic][texnansi-lfdi][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaFax-Italic][texnansi-lfi][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaFax][texnansi-lfr][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaSans-Bold][texnansi-lsb][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaSans-BoldItalic][texnansi-lsbi][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaSans-Demi][texnansi-lsd][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaSans-DemiItalic][texnansi-lsdi][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaSans-Italic][texnansi-lsi][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaSans][texnansi-lsr][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaSans-TypewriterBold][texnansi-lstb][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaSans-TypewriterBoldOblique][texnansi-lstbo][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaSans-TypewriterOblique][texnansi-lsto][encoding=texnansi]
\definefontsynonym[LucidaSans-Typewriter][texnansi-lstr][encoding=texnansi]
\stoptyping

\page

\setupheadertexts[\tttf texnansi-yandy-lucida.map]

\starttyping
texnansi-raw-lbc LucidaCalligraphy-Italic 4 < lbc.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lbd LucidaBright-Demi 4 < lbd.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lbdi LucidaBright-DemiItalic 4 < lbdi.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lbdsc LucidaBrightSmallcaps-Demi 4 < lbdsc.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lbh LucidaHandwriting-Italic 4 < lbh.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lbi LucidaBright-Italic 4 < lbi.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lbki LucidaCasual-Italic 4 < lbki.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lbkr LucidaCasual 4 < lbkr.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lbl LucidaBlackletter 4 < lbl.pfb texnansi.enc
lbma LucidaNewMath-Arrows < lbma.pfb
lbmad LucidaNewMath-Arrows-Demi < lbmad.pfb
lbmatex LucidaNewMath-Arrows < lbmatex.pfb
lbmd LucidaNewMath-Demibold < lbmd.pfb
lbmdi LucidaNewMath-DemiItalic < lbmdi.pfb
lbmdo LucidaNewMath-AltDemiItalic < lbmdo.pfb
lbme LucidaNewMath-Extension < lbme.pfb
lbmetex LucidaNewMath-Extension < lbmetex.pfb
lbmi LucidaNewMath-Italic < lbmi.pfb
lbmitex LucidaNewMath-Italic < lbmitex.pfb
lbmo LucidaNewMath-AltItalic < lbmo.pfb
lbmotex LucidaNewMath-AltItalic < lbmotex.pfb
lbmr LucidaNewMath-Roman < lbmr.pfb
lbms LucidaNewMath-Symbol < lbms.pfb
lbmsd LucidaNewMath-Symbol-Demi < lbmsd.pfb
lbmstex LucidaNewMath-Symbol < lbmstex.pfb
texnansi-raw-lbr LucidaBright 4 < lbr.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lbrsc LucidaBrightSmallcaps 4 < lbrsc.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lbsl LucidaBright-Oblique 4 < lbsl.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lbtb LucidaTypewriterBold 4 < lbtb.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lbtbo LucidaTypewriterBoldOblique 4 < lbtbo.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lbto LucidaTypewriterOblique 4 < lbto.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lbtr LucidaTypewriter 4 < lbtr.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lfd LucidaFax-Demi 4 < lfd.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lfdi LucidaFax-DemiItalic 4 < lfdi.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lfi LucidaFax-Italic 4 < lfi.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lfr LucidaFax 4 < lfr.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lsb LucidaSans-Bold 4 < lsb.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lsbi LucidaSans-BoldItalic 4 < lsbi.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lsd LucidaSans-Demi 4 < lsd.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lsdi LucidaSans-DemiItalic 4 < lsdi.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lsi LucidaSans-Italic 4 < lsi.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lsr LucidaSans 4 < lsr.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lstb LucidaSans-TypewriterBold 4 < lstb.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lstbo LucidaSans-TypewriterBoldOblique 4 < lstbo.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lsto LucidaSans-TypewriterOblique 4 < lsto.pfb texnansi.enc
texnansi-raw-lstr LucidaSans-Typewriter 4 < lstr.pfb texnansi.enc
\stoptyping

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Re: Choosing a font for our Math Book

[David Arnold]

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Hans,

\usetypescript[palatino][texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[palatino]

This one worked, and looks pretty good. In Acrobat Professional,  
fonts reported are:

LMRoman10-Regual
LMTypewriter10-Regular
Pxsy
Rpxr
URWPalladioL-Ital
URWPalladioL-Roma

All Type 1.

But this one:

\definetypeface[iwona][ss][sans][iwona][default][encoding=texnansi]
\definetypeface[iwona][mm][math][iwona][default][encoding=texnansi]

\setupbodyfont[iwona][texnansi]

Caused:

(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex) 
kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-iwonar
mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1;  
nonstopmode; input texnansi-iwonar
This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.5)

kpathsea: Running mktexmf texnansi-iwonar
! I can't find file `texnansi-iwonar'.
<*> ... mag:=1; nonstopmode; input texnansi-iwonar

Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
<*> ... mag:=1; nonstopmode; input texnansi-iwonar

Transcript written on mfput.log.
grep: texnansi-iwonar.log: No such file or directory
mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode;  
input texnansi-iwonar' failed to make texnansi-iwonar.tfm.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.

! Font \*iwona12ptsstf*:=texnansi-iwonar at 12.0pt not loadable:  
Metric (TFM) f
ile not found.
<to be read again>
                    \relax
\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier
                                                   \let  
\localrelativefontsiz...

\fontstrategy ...me \fontclass #2#3#4#5\endcsname
                                                   \tryingfontfalse \fi
<inserted text> ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize
                                                   \fi \iftryingfont  
\fontstr...

\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies
                                                   \relax \fi  
\iftryingfont \...
<argument> \getvalue {\@style@ \fontstyle }
                                            \edef \fontstyle  
{\fontstyle }\if...
...
l.39 \setupbodyfont[iwona]
                           [texnansi]
?

I'm gonna get that update to Context pretty soon. We'll see if that  
helps.







David



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Re: Choosing a font for our Math Book

[Hans Hagen]

David Arnold wrote:

> Hans,
>
> On Nov 25, 2005, at 4:48 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> \usetypescript[lucida][texnansi]
>>
>> \setupbodyfont[lucida]
>>
>
> This doesn't work on my system. However, the attached file does 
> compile and gives me Lucida in Acrobat Professional. You'll note 
> thought that all the math is commented out.
>
> What do you suggest? I tried this as well:
>
> \usetypescript[yandy-lucida][texnansi]
> \setupbodyfont[lucida]

are there typescripts tagged yandy-lucida then?

Hans

Re: Choosing a font for our Math Book

[David Arnold]

Hans,

Yep.

bin $ locate yandy-
/Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida-mpgraph.mp
/Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.log
/Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.pdf
/Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.tex
/Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.tmp
/Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.tui
/Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.tuo
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/texnansi- 
yandy-lucida.bak
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/texnansi- 
yandy-lucida.map


On Nov 27, 2005, at 3:20 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> David Arnold wrote:
>
>
>> Hans,
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2005, at 4:48 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>
>>> \usetypescript[lucida][texnansi]
>>>
>>> \setupbodyfont[lucida]
>>>
>>>
>>
>> This doesn't work on my system. However, the attached file does  
>> compile and gives me Lucida in Acrobat Professional. You'll note  
>> thought that all the math is commented out.
>>
>> What do you suggest? I tried this as well:
>>
>> \usetypescript[yandy-lucida][texnansi]
>> \setupbodyfont[lucida]
>>
>
> are there typescripts tagged yandy-lucida then?
>
> Hans
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Re: Choosing a font for our Math Book

[Hans Hagen]

David Arnold wrote:

> Hans,
>
> Yep.
>
> bin $ locate yandy-
> /Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida-mpgraph.mp
> /Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.log
> /Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.pdf
> /Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.tex
> /Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.tmp
> /Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.tui
> /Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.tuo
> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/texnansi- 
> yandy-lucida.bak
> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/texnansi- 
> yandy-lucida.map

ah, i see; the problem is that the context predefined typescripts expect 
something

  bh-lucida

since bh is the foundry and not yandy

now, for all fonts that i buy/use, i add en entry to type-buy.tex, and 
the corresponding dat files says:

# bh lucida

--en=? --ve=bh --co=lucida --re
--en=? --ve=bh --co=lucida --so=bh/lucida --ma --in --expert

this means that you can run texfont as follows:

  texfont --encoding=texnansi --batch type-buy.dat

which assumes that you have the fonts in the local tree (the place where 
you run this command) under

  bh/lucida

Here i have a dedicated disk where i put my font files (the ones 
provided by the foundry) structured like:

/myboughtfonts/bh/lucida/

the last one is flat, i.e. i always copy all font files to such a path 
(pfb, afm, whatever)

i then run texfont in the

/myboughtfonts

path and (using the dat file) texfonts knows where to find the files. 
So, type-buy assumes some kind of source tree:

h:\fonts\adobe\frutiger
h:\fonts\adobe\myriad
h:\fonts\adobe\palatino
h:\fonts\adobe\symbol
h:\fonts\adobe\utopia
h:\fonts\agfa\bauhaus
h:\fonts\bh\lucida
h:\fonts\bitstream\cyberbit
h:\fonts\itc\bauhaus
h:\fonts\itc\kabel
h:\fonts\itc\mendoza
h:\fonts\itc\officina
h:\fonts\itc\stone
h:\fonts\linotype\industria
h:\fonts\linotype\optima-nova
h:\fonts\linotype\syntax
h:\fonts\linotype\univers
h:\fonts\linotype\zapfino
h:\fonts\linotype\zapfino-extra
h:\fonts\lucas\antiqua
h:\fonts\lucas\sun
h:\fonts\lucas\thesans
h:\fonts\monotype\sabon

which will be reflected in the names that en dup in the tex tree

once you have it running, adding a new font is a matter of minutes

Hans