From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/23944 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Renaud AUBIN Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: tetex or texlive on linux Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:59:02 +0100 Message-ID: <438CCF26.8080902@nibua-r.org> References: <438CB9C6.5080702@free.fr> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0839170178==" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133301817 1255 80.91.229.2 (29 Nov 2005 22:03:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Nov 29 23:03:29 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EhDXE-00025L-Ho for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:01:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A058127F2; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:01:12 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28532-07; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:01:12 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5471279E; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:59:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74EF1279E for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:59:04 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28533-02 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:59:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from 26.mail-out.ovh.net (26.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.42.179]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7961278D for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:59:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (qmail 11197 invoked by uid 503); 29 Nov 2005 21:59:23 -0000 Original-Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 29 Nov 2005 21:59:23 -0000 Original-Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail49.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 26.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2005 21:59:23 -0000 Original-Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2005 21:59:01 -0000 Original-Received: from mail49.ha.ovh.net (10.0.50.49) by mail49.ha.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2005 21:58:59 -0000 Original-Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-pre) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2005 21:58:59 -0000 Original-Received: from d213-103-198-192.cust.tele2.fr (HELO ?192.168.78.10?) (aubin@nibua-r.org@213.103.198.192) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2005 21:58:59 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051010) X-Accept-Language: fr, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: X-Ovh-Remote: 213.103.198.192 (d213-103-198-192.cust.tele2.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: fait|type 1&3|0.5|H 0.5 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:23944 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0839170178== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080409080600010204010302" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080409080600010204010302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Salut Olivier, teTeX benefits from an excellent integration with debian-like distros=20 i.e. you can update with the last version, install or not some exotic=20 packages like prosper for LaTeX (.deb package), tetex-frog for french=20 support. etc. But since TeXlive is based on teTeX, I believe that more=20 packages are included (some PSTricks extensions pst-*** or prosper). Of=20 course, you have to take these considerations into account only if you=20 will use LaTeX. I'm learning ConTeXt for a week after 3-4 of LaTeX practice and I have=20 installed texlive2005 after some unexpected experiments with teTeX. Now,=20 my fonts-related problem is solved so I will maybe retry ConTeXt with=20 teTeX... In *my* opinion, teTeX is lightest because when you need a=20 package, apt works well and if there is no deb package, you can easilly=20 install it manually (a0poster, HAProsper, Th=E8se Loria...) I need a complete distrib of TeX with LaTeX support because I need it=20 for publication purposes and I don't want to port all my doc to ConTeXt=20 yet... If you need ConTeXt without LaTeX, the better solution is=20 effectively to follow Hans's advice. With teTeX and TeXlive, fonts-related problem seem not (*are* not, to=20 me,) trivial but the mailing list is a good start point... Another point, if you need a multi-OS distrib of (La)TeX =3D> texlive is=20 the solution since teTeX is only for linux. For internals, I don't know well diff between teTeX and TeXlive. Cordialement, If you need more advices or precisions (in french) you can contact me=20 directly VnPenguin a =E9crit : >On 11/29/05, olivier Turlier wrote: > =20 > >>Hi everybody, >>I'm going to install context on a linux box (ubuntu 5.10). >> >>1) I wish to hear texnicians (rather than aficionados) words on wich te= x >>distro fit best for mainly context use, on fonts optimisation, for >>exemple, etc. >> =20 >> > >teTeX is a good choice. Of course there is also TeXlive :-) > > =20 > >>2) is informations on contextgarden wiki are still uptodate for tetex >>install ? >> =20 >> > >Yes, > >-- >http://vnoss.org >Vietnamese Open Source Software Community >_______________________________________________ >ntg-context mailing list >ntg-context@ntg.nl >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > > =20 > --------------080409080600010204010302 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Salut Olivier,

teTeX benefits from an excellent integration with debian-like distros i.e. you can update with the last version, install or not some exotic packages like prosper for LaTeX (.deb package), tetex-frog for french support. etc. But since TeXlive is based on teTeX, I believe that more packages are included (some PSTricks extensions pst-*** or prosper). Of course, you have to take these considerations into account only if you will use LaTeX.

I'm learning ConTeXt for a week after 3-4 of LaTeX practice and I have installed texlive2005 after some unexpected experiments with teTeX. Now, my fonts-related problem is solved so I will maybe retry ConTeXt with teTeX... In *my* opinion, teTeX is lightest because when you need a package, apt works well and if there is no deb package, you can easilly install it manually (a0poster, HAProsper, Thèse Loria...)
I need a complete distrib of TeX with LaTeX support because I need it for publication purposes and I don't want to port all my doc to ConTeXt yet... If you need ConTeXt without LaTeX, the better solution is effectively to follow Hans's advice.

With teTeX and TeXlive, fonts-related problem seem not (*are* not, to me,) trivial but the mailing list is a good start point...

Another point, if you need a multi-OS distrib of (La)TeX => texlive is the solution since teTeX is only for linux.

For internals, I don't know well diff between teTeX and TeXlive.

Cordialement,

If you need more advices or precisions (in french) you can contact me directly

VnPenguin a écrit : 
On 11/29/05, olivier Turlier <o.turlier@free.fr> wrote:
  
Hi everybody,
I'm going to install context on a linux box (ubuntu 5.10).

1) I wish to hear texnicians (rather than aficionados) words on wich tex
distro fit best for mainly context use, on fonts optimisation, for
exemple, etc.
    

teTeX is a good choice. Of course there is also TeXlive :-)

  
2) is informations on contextgarden wiki are still uptodate for tetex
install ?
    

Yes,

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