From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/24005 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Re: LucidaBright fonts...I'm stumped Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:39:50 +0100 Message-ID: <43904EA6.3060307@wxs.nl> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133531095 32470 80.91.229.2 (2 Dec 2005 13:44:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 13:44:55 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Dec 02 14:44:49 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EiBAe-0000Wo-Gi for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:41:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9DE12860; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 14:41:52 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12456-07; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 14:41:51 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A6A127DF; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 14:39:52 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029AB127DF for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 14:39:51 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12431-05-2 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 14:39:50 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from controller-1 (dsl-212-84-128-085.solcon.nl [212.84.128.85]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAA71278E for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 14:39:49 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.102] (unverified [10.100.1.102]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.5b3) with ESMTP id 6007 for ; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:45:07 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-274017400 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:24005 Archived-At: Henk Koster wrote: >As a follow-up to my earlier message... > >I don't understand why ConTeXt cannot use the LB .afm/.pfb/.tfm files that >are already present (for the texnansi encoding) in my LaTeX setup. Why >does texfont need to duplicate all these files? Does ConTeXt not use the >directory path search of teTeX? > > we are using lb fonts for many year snow, and i'm not going to change my setups -) also, in the past texnansi metrics were not shipped consistently with tex distributions; i've been bitten by this a few times keep in mind that most of those metrics originate in the latex world, so when something changes, the authors probably also patch the latex part of it; i'm out of that loop so i want to play safe; >It seems to me that, in my case, texfonts only needs to generate files >that are peculiar to ConTeXt, like "texnansi-yandy-lucida.tex and > > that' sjust a text file >.map", and further use the .afm, .pfb and .tfm files that are already > > indeed we have such map files because (1) we needed them (2) we want non conflicting specs (3) we only want to load what is needed (older pdftex versions are slow on big files) (4) in future releaes the map files will go away, and we will use mapline specs at runtime) (5) in case you wonder about updmap: it was not present when texfont came around, and is limited in its options (6) i want context to be able to work with the tons of commercial fonts out there (tex distributions only support a neglectable fraction of commercial fonts) as it happens, lucida is known to tex people and therefore has support, but that's not true for many other fonts >present -- is there a way to do that? > > > sure, just map those long names to the ones you want, so, make a list of mappings grep berry type-*.tex will show you how. We can make a [berry][lucida][texnansi] typescript which can be used for those who want (in that case you also need to provide a proper map file for only the lucida fonts) so .. no problem in adding that support, but others have to do the work -) Hans