From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/24037 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tobias Burnus Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: German hyphenation patterns Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:42:55 +0100 Message-ID: <43906B7F.5060407@gmx.de> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133538272 26161 80.91.229.2 (2 Dec 2005 15:44:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Dec 02 16:44:31 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EiD3N-00055y-Ok for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:42:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB1812949; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 16:42:28 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15480-03-5; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 16:42:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B13012944; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 16:42:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC8512944 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 16:42:22 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15480-03-4 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 16:42:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from zs04.physik.fu-berlin.de (zs04.physik.fu-berlin.de [160.45.35.155]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DD912936 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 16:42:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ith.physik.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.32.115] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by zs04.physik.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EiD3F-0006Ig-5U; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:42:21 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050715) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: X-Scanned: No viruses found. X-Scan-Signature: 13d44a4882f821bc93881c2fbda5a6f2 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:24037 Archived-At: Hi, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > German orthography is a mess right now, we now have two sets of rules, = > old and new. New hyphenation is ugly and rules are constantly=20 > changing. I see that ConTeXt has lang-deo.pat, so I was hoping that=20 > this would produce "old" patterns, but it doesn't seem to work Should work(TM). > \showhyphens{Bierdeckel} I may completely missunderstand the .pat files, but I think they only=20 give rules where to hyphenate; thus with the current .pat system one can = never get ck -> k-k. LaTeX's german.sty and also ConTeXt provide "ck -> k-k "ll -> ll-l "ff ->ff-f (as in Bierde"ckel, Ro"lladen or Schi"ffahrt). > \showhyphens{=C3=A4u=C3=9Ferst} > Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 12--12 > [] \*10ptrmtf* =E2=80=B0u-=CB=87erst Hmm, my Duden of 1996 writes in black "au|=C3=9Ferst" (=3D new & establis= hed=20 spelling), which is in line what I remember. But I see \showhyphens{=C3=A4u=C3=9Ferstenfalls} be wrongly hyphenated; a= ccording=20 to Duden it should be: =C3=A4u|=C3=9Fersten|falls (new spelling: =C3=A4u|=C3=9Fers|ten|falls). T= eX hyphenates here=20 (with deo =3D established spelling) between the s and the t. Tobias