From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/24280 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Chinese Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:29:21 +0100 Message-ID: <439D6D21.4030705@wxs.nl> References: <4393EE02.405@gmail.com> <4393EF88.40709@gmail.com> <43940348.9050208@wxs.nl> <43943696.2000002@gmail.com> <43944FAA.4040302@wxs.nl> <4394F1AB.5000506@gmail.com> <4394F78B.1040801@gmail.com> <439852AD.3030708@gmx.de> <439896E1.6080403@gmx.de> <4398E99B.9060600@gmail.com> <4399621C.5020702@gmx.de> <43998AAD.50806@gmail.com> <43998EB1.8080609@net-b.de> <439997FB.3000600@comp.lancs.ac.uk> <4399A2F8.8040900@net-b.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134390688 1460 80.91.229.2 (12 Dec 2005 12:31:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:31:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Dec 12 13:31:25 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Elmo8-0000qu-8H for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:29:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843AF127ED; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:29:30 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27776-04; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:29:25 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C291B127E2; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:29:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186D0127E2 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:29:23 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 30567-02 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:29:22 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from controller-1 (dsl-212-84-128-085.solcon.nl [212.84.128.85]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E12612797 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:29:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.102] (unverified [10.100.1.102]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.5b3) with ESMTP id 7347 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:35:45 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <4399A2F8.8040900@net-b.de> X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-274017400 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:24280 Archived-At: Tobias Burnus wrote: > Hi, > > Adam Lindsay wrote: > >> Is there less kerning among CJK fonts? I would expect so. > > Classically any Chinese character has exactly the same width, which is=20 > the same as the height (square). Nowadays some are taller than wide.=20 > I'm quite certain that there is hardly any Chinese font with kerning=20 > as this would break the grid. > >> Thinking aloud, you'd probably want to include some=20 >> language-switching commands, to mediate between the calling of=20 >> unicode fonts for un-named CJK glyphs (just raw conversion from=20 >> Unicode to font switch + glyph number) to named roman (and other=20 >> alphabetic) glyphs (conversion from UTF-8 to named glyphs to=20 >> font+glyph, which retains kerning where it can). > > Well, I think one uses most of the time different fonts for Chinese=20 > and non-CJK texts as many Chinese fonts don't include that many roman=20 > letters (at least the ones quoted at=20 > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Chinese miss the =C3=9F and =C3=A4). if there is a utf-8 mapping for chinese, then th eother chars can come=20 from the main text font Hans