From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/24405 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Taco Hoekwater Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: OpenType fonts Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:58:08 +0100 Message-ID: <43A3E130.7050702@elvenkind.com> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134813474 20932 80.91.229.2 (17 Dec 2005 09:57:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mailing list for Aleph Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Dec 17 10:57:44 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EnYot-0001C8-W8 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:57:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F0D12848; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:57:37 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01143-01-3; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:57:35 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B564612842; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:57:31 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A36127BF; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:57:29 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01143-01; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:57:28 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB141278F; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:57:28 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from boo.demon.nl ([82.161.175.147]:44993 helo=[192.168.1.3]) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EnYoh-000N5c-Rw; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:57:28 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050215) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:24405 Archived-At: Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: > Hi all, > > OpenType fonts are all the rage today. Are there any critiqes of the > format, or discussions of its limitations? Despite it's apparent "smartness" and a lot of media hype, OpenType is still just a collection of glyphs and metainformation. XeTeX makes OpenType look intelligent, but that is because the program logic is wholly embedded in Mac OS X. At the core level, the real big difference with TTF and Type 1 is just that there is *more* metainfo (I am over simplifying it a bit, but not much). Aleph, or pdfetex, for that matter, will need extensions to make actual use of the extra metainformation. Whether that needs a new kind of OpenType-Font-Metric file or whether it can be done in macros/primitives is not clear yet (at least not for pdftex) > How many typesetting applications can actually take full advantage of > opentype fonts? There is a table at: http://www.opentype.com/html/opentype.aspx but how up-to-date that is, I do not know. > What are the chances that OpenType (at least some of its advanced > features) will go the way of MultipleMaster fonts? Do you mean "embedded metaness" or "terminated for marketing reasons"? the first, I doubt (too many font vendors involved with the spec; they can make more money from selling separate fonts) the latter is, of course, always possible but seems unlikely in short and medium time. Cheers, Taco