From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/24512 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Chinese in current ConTeXt Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:46:32 +0100 Message-ID: <43A83568.6020504@wxs.nl> References: <43A81EB0.6060900@gmx.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1135097329 21289 80.91.229.2 (20 Dec 2005 16:48:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 16:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Dec 20 17:48:39 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EokdN-00061L-Ok for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:46:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3109127D2; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:46:40 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09652-04; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:46:36 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A4E127E0; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:46:36 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BDB127E0 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:46:34 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09651-07-2 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:46:33 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-212-84-128-085.solcon.nl [212.84.128.85]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D90127D2 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:46:33 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.102] (unverified [10.100.1.102]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.5b3) with ESMTP id 8513 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:53:51 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <43A81EB0.6060900@gmx.de> X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-274017400 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:24512 Archived-At: Tobias Burnus wrote: > Hello, > > some remarks/errors of the current UTF-8 Chinese support in ConTeXt=20 > 2005.12.19: > (For (a) to (c) see also attached file.) > > a) unic-chi.tex: This contains the unicode vectors for which a Chinese=20 > font will be used; currently it only covers > \dostepwiserecurse{40}{159}{1}{\defineunicodecommand #1 {\uchar}} > but this it misses the U+FFxx characters (fullwidth latin characters,=20 > e.g. '?' which is as wide as a Chinese character) > =3D> solution: Add > \defineunicodecommand 255 {\uchar} > > b) Labels: lang-chi.tex contains: > \setuplabeltext [\s!cn] [\v!figure=3D{\cnencoding\cnencodedfigure}] > \startencoding[uni-c] > \definecommand cnencodedfigure {\uchar{86}{254}} > but if I use (with UTF-8) \placefigure{}{} the figure character is not=20 > shown; however if I setup this directly, i.e. > \setuplabeltext[cn][figure=3D{\uchar{86}{254}}] > , the character is shown just fine. was this du eto the uni-c c-uni mixup? > > c) Doing font switching using \SimKaiTi seems to convert back to GBK,=20 > can we have Unicode by default (at least when UTF-8 encoding is used)? we need to come up with a better setup for this, just make me the=20 definitions and i'll see how they will fit in ... > > Examples for (a) to (c) see attachment (UTF-8 encoded). > > > Wish for the native speakers: Please translate > - Graphics/Illustration and Intermezzo(s) > > Question to native speakers: > - \c!date=3D{\v!month,\ ,\v!day,{,\ },\v!year}, > Is this really the default? Or should this be > year=E5=B9=B4month=E6=9C=88day=E6=97=A5? > > * * * > > Another questions: > a) How to typset from top-to-bottom right-to-left using column(sets)? hm, columnsets ... just make them small enough; should work ok=20 (including graphic spans) > b) How to change the numberformat used? eh ... wang lei should know ... i have to look into it (chinese supports=20 multiple number formats) Hans