From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/25039 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: How to break laws in physics? Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:39:52 +0100 Message-ID: <43C2ADF8.6060003@wxs.nl> References: <6faad9f00601090345w5f44b53fj155d7729527758e0@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1136832118 8961 80.91.229.2 (9 Jan 2006 18:41:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Jan 09 19:41:54 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ew1xb-0005UR-7t for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:41:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCDA127C8; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:41:38 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02163-07; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:41:38 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA40212772; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:39:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904F612772 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:39:54 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02206-03-2 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:39:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-212-84-128-085.solcon.nl [212.84.128.85]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A5DC1276F for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:39:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.102] (unverified [10.100.1.102]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.5b3) with ESMTP id 11003 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:49:27 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00601090345w5f44b53fj155d7729527758e0@mail.gmail.com> X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-274017400 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:25039 Archived-At: Mojca Miklavec wrote: >\definetypeface [iwona] [mm] [math] [iwona] [default] >\setupbodyfont[iwona] > >${\partial\rho\over\partial t}+\vec{\nabla}\vec{\jmath}=0$ > >(If I fail on the exam, I'll try to explain to professor that I found >a few mistakes in the Maxwell equations and lost the whole time trying >to fix them before I was able to learn further :) > > ok, so it's may fault that you failed that examn ... if so ... at eurotex/bachotex i'll buy you a beer > > >I've found three "kind-of-bugs" in font itself (\jmath and \imath were >missing, \partial is mirrored, vectors placed strangely - the latter >may not be connected with the font itself). > > can you communicate this with J&J ... >So I tried to redefine \jmath to use dotlessj from italic version of >font and found another "bug" in ConTeXt. dotlessj is commented out in >enco-ec.tex. Well, I understand that it may not be present in every >font, but it's worse: it's already defined in the default encoding, so >\dotlessj results in double quotes, which is worse than no char at >all. enco-ec has some other faults present, I tried to fix a few of >them ([t|s]cedilla should be [t|s]commaaccent, \Eth and \eth were >commented out, while they are OK, one glyph is present twice, I >redefined it to map to the first slot, since usually the second one is >empty, upper/lower casing may still need some revision). > >Is there any chance that any numerical definitions of characters >disappear from enco-def slowly? If anyone is using any other encoding >than the standard one, the characters map to something completely >weird then. > > actually all chars in enco-def that use funny numbers should be present in a (math) font vector; better a wrong something that nothing (we need a fallback) the alternative is to have a def which is mostly mapping to nothing and then make the tex encoding on top of that (quite an effort and it may temporary introduce bugs) >Some fixes for enco-def: > >% DELETE THIS ONE: IT'S WORSE THAN NOTHING >\definecharacter eth {\dstroke} % wrong but better that nothing >% and replace by: >\definecharacter eth {\unknownchar} > > ok, gone are the dstrokes (only you use them -) >\definecharacter scommaaccent {\buildtextbottomcomma s} >\definecharacter Scommaaccent {\buildtextbottomcomma S} >\definecharacter tcommaaccent {\buildtextbottomcomma t} >\definecharacter Tcommaaccent {\buildtextbottomcomma T} > >\definecharacter Ohorndotbelow {\buildtextbottomdot\Ohorn} >\definecharacter ohorndotbelow {\buildtextbottomdot\ohorn} >\definecharacter Uhorndotbelow {\buildtextbottomdot\Uhorn} >\definecharacter uhorndotbelow {\buildtextbottomdot\uhorn} > > added >enco-ini: > >Any chances to add something like: >\definecharacter bottomcomma {,} % comma, lowered a bit >\def\buildtextbottomcomma{\bottomaccent{.25ex}{0}{5}{\textbottomcomma}} > >I have no idea what \textbottomcomma should be, but probably just a >comma, lowered a bit. The current definition with ' is a bit strange. > > hm, so you suppose that i have an idea ... \definetypeface[xxx][rm][serif][modern][default][encoding=qx] {\xxx \scommaaccent} \definecharacter textbottomcomma {\hbox{\lower.35ex\hbox{\tx,}}} \definecharacter scommaaccent {\buildtextbottomcomma s} \def\buildtextbottomcomma{\bottomaccent{.15ex}{0}{5}{\tx,}} \scommaaccent \textbottomcomma \stoptext Hans